<p>Interesting poll at the Yale Daily News right now.
<a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com%5B/url%5D">http://www.yaledailynews.com</a></p>
<p>It asks if people feel safe in New Haven. After 5789 votes so far, the results: </p>
<p>74% Not Safe At All
14% Somewhat Safe
12% Very Safe</p>
<p>That is cause for concern.</p>
<p>Very old news. Search through the Yale thread, as this has been discussed to death.</p>
<p>I looked a few pages back, nothing there... I'm not going to sort through hundreds of threads before posting something new. Thanks for your help though.</p>
<p>Sorry, didn't mean to be snippy...</p>
<p>I tried to search and couldn't find an old thread on this subject, so I apologize.</p>
<p>We have been told by the school, alums and our relatives that live in New Haven, that while New Haven is an older city, with the attendant problems that brings, the campus is generally safe. However, you have to be careful and alert. I went to school in Ann Arbor and the same thing was true there. Such is life in the urban US.</p>
<p>For example:</p>
<p>byerly, seriously, do you have to argue with everyone?</p>
<p>I'm not arguing, I'm agreeing with the OP - Yale.edu.</p>
<p>There is "cause for concern" he says.</p>
<p>It is a shame that Yale people can't discuss legitimate issues here without this Harvard kid chiming in on every Yale subject under the sun.</p>
<p>I commend you - and the Yale Daily News - for acknowledging this "legitimate issue."</p>
<p>Since Cambridge, Mass. has somehow been inserted into the conversation, I should mention that Philip Greenspun, in his Harvard blog, says "a Harvard or MIT professor who wants to live in a family-sized house will either need to spend two hours per day commuting from the exurbs or two days per week consulting to pay for the $1.5 million house in Cambridge. In the old days a junior professor hurried from the classroom to the lab. Today she hurries from the classroom to the lab and then tries to depart the campus by 4 pm to beat the traffic out to the exurbs. She won't spend the evening taking her students out for dinner; if she is socializing it will be with folks unrelated to the university who live near her house."</p>
<p>Your Harvard is nothing more than a commuter school (on the faculty level).</p>
<p>And it is a legitimate issue. But you aren't adding anything to a discussion about it, all you have done is to compare it to Cambridge for no apparent reason. At least Yale faculty live close to their students, for better or for worse.</p>
<p>More from Greenspun: "For personal attention from the faculty it would seem that one should restrict one's college search to schools in areas where real estate is still cheap enough that professors live close to campus." Granted, he does indrectly call New Haven "a crime-ridden ghetto".</p>
<p>Well that's one way to rationalize away the proximity of ghettos to the campus, I guess. </p>
<p>By the same theory, I presume Greenspun would rule out Stanford, with its breathtakingly expensive dot.com goldcoast, and turn up his nose at Princeton's tidy, tony, upscale setting.</p>
<p>Give me the gritty life, says Greenspun, where reality bites and the bullets fly!</p>
<p>By the same theory, I presume you'd rule out Stanford</p>
<p>Me? It's the Harvard and MIT professor's words. Philip Greenspun, in his blog at the HARVARD website said these things. (Those quotation thingys around the words means that I am quoting someone else.)</p>
<p>Here it is, notice the harvard.edu in the address? That means its on the servers of your favorite school. I guess some folks already in Cambridge wouldn't send their kids to Harvard.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/%5B/url%5D">http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/</a></p>
<p>EDIT: Nice catch, Byerly. Changing "you" to "Greenspun" after I already responded to you.</p>
<p>OK, enough about Cambridge.... back to the issue at hand: New Haven. Yale, as one of the richest universities in the world, should offer the same financial incentives that Penn does to faculty who purchase homes within a certain radius the campus. Does anyone know if Yale already has a program similar to this?</p>
<p>It does, for both faculty and employees.</p>
<p>Well, that's certainly a great thing. Such programs may take time (even decades) to significantly change neighborhoods, but in the long run it should work out well.</p>
<p>yale.edu - new haven is known for being "ghetto" and "unsafe" but from friends/family that have gone there, the campus is VERY safe. compared to many schools yale is very safe. trust me that being on campus you shouldnt worry too much, just dont be walking around in alleys in the city at 2 am...=D</p>
<p>It's sort of disturbing to think about when students on insular "safe" campuses graduate and get jobs in the big, bad cities with "ghettos." I mean I want my college age kids to be safe. But I don't know that I want them to be taught that they can only be safe in a controlled environment surrounded by other "safe" people.</p>
<p>I think a bunch of 18-22 year-olds (or so), attending Yale, have enough common sense to know that all situations in life aren't going to be like what you describe, ctnjpamom.</p>
<p>The campus is safe, but the New Havenites have a predatory attitude toward Yale students. Not very nice, it seems to me...</p>