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<p>Miso is amazing. we went there for lunch for my res college council. soooooo good. the tornado rolls are crazy.</p>

<p>there's also samurai, which is pretty good, and mia's- which are both close to campus, not too pricey, and great places to go sake bombing.</p>

<p>pizza- BAR, Pepe's, Sally's, Naples for the short list. I like Town pizza too, but i'm fairly indiscriminant. </p>

<p>for those living in TD or silliman (after renovations) there's also a G-Heav over there, and the original Koffee? Whitney Avenue is a lot nicer than Whalley.</p>

<p>I've heard that New Haven is supposed to have really good water. It tastes fine to me. I've never heard anyone complain about air quality.</p>

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<p>Dear Lord . . . I went to Yale, lived in New Haven, now live in Boston and am often in New Haven. posterx needs to calm down.</p>

<p>NH is a small city with some very nice restaurants and some funky stores. It doesn't have much variety in shopping. If you want stuff, it really helps to have access to a car. There isn't much life on the streets most nights. There is a cluster of nightclubs not far from school but those cater mostly to a suburban crowd. </p>

<p>One great thing is the city is open late, more on NYC time than Boston. Some places are open till 3AM - like Mamoun's, which has been around for 30 years. </p>

<p>A negative: the bad parts of NH are not removed from campus but are near. That is why NH is more dangerous than Boston; BU or Harvard are in the heart of the city but in very safe areas. If you don't understand that, you should stop drinking the Kool-Aid.</p>

<p>As for pizza, realize it's a hike to Wooster Square and Street - all the way past downtown, past the part that is still wig shops and junk. BTW, Abate is very good, full of locals (unlike Pepe's now) and has a parking lot.</p>

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<p>Lergnom, I live in the Orange Street area of New Haven, and I have to disagree. As I've said in other posts, New Haven has been experiencing a tremendous amount of urban renewal that has begun around Yale and has extended into other parts as well. The "wig shops and junk" are fast being replaced by creperies, cafes, and restaurants. The 9th Square is also now home to overpriced condos and hair salons. Gentrification happens one block at a time. </p>

<p>I willl acknowledge there are some dangerous sections of New Haven, and there are poorer sections of New Haven. However, the two are different. Examples of the former would be the Hill, Newhallville, Highville, and some parts of Fairhaven, though it is gentrifying. Examples of the latter would be most of Edgewood Avenue, Dwight Street, etc. These neighborhoods have experienced a significant decrease in crime; many Yale undergrads feel safe living there. They may not look like East Rock yet, but I feel just as comfortable walking there at night as I do in my neighborhood. </p>

<p>I used to live in Harvard Square, and regularly had to walk home at night from the T. I was followed home on multiple occasions (by different parties), and was also robbed there as well. I have yet to experience anything similar in the nearly four years I have lived in New Haven. You seriously could not pay me to move back to Boston/Cambridge. </p>

<p>PS: Pepe's "the Spot" has the same pizza--and a parking lot. </p>

<p>PPS: posterX irritates the heck out of me as well.</p>

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<p>I agree with pip-pip completely, even though I apparently irritate him.</p>

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<p>Fellow Elm citizen, I'm a lady. But cheers. It's the hyperbole that grates on me, really. </p>

<p>Lergnom, the city is only open late if compared to Boston.</p>

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<p>Hm, according to <a href="http://www.cityrating.com/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cityrating.com/&lt;/a> New Haven is safer than Palo Alto. I have been wondering why there are so many people talking about NH's crimes and almost nobody in the UChicago forum concerned with their safety.</p>

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<p>That's because Palo Alto's statitistics include the economically depressed East Palo Alto, which is both literally and figuratively on the other side of the tracks from Stanford. It's a whole other world over there.</p>

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<p>well, new haven probably includes west haven, which is where a lot of the new haven crimes occur</p>

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<p>Aren't those both fairly irrelevant "metro area" rankings that tell you little or nothing about crime stats (or any other stats, for that matter) in the city or town itself? </p>

<p>This is the kind of stuff "PosterX" (ie, the YALIE TROLL) likes to use, because it offsets <em>real</em> New Haven data with numbers from wealthy, gated communities at some remove from the core city where the school is located.</p>

<p>Check THIS ranking instead, which is <em>really</em> New Haven vs. Palo Alto:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.bestplaces.net/city/profile.aspx?cat=CRIME&city=Palo_Alto_CA&ccity=New_Haven_CT%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bestplaces.net/city/profile.aspx?cat=CRIME&city=Palo_Alto_CA&ccity=New_Haven_CT&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Byerly, I'm fairly certain the city of New Haven has no gated communities, and certainly none in the downtown, core area. Unless you count buildings w. doormen. There are some wealthier areas, and those are indeed close to Yale's Science Hill and Divinity School. </p>

<p>West Haven is a separate entity from New Haven entirely, huskem. It has its own police force, and its own crime rates.</p>

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<p>Indeed. The gated communities in the so-called "metropolitan area" are well outside the city of New Haven.</p>

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<p>Re: Gated Communities/Safety.
I ran door-to-door outreach programs in the greater New Haven area (including New Haven); during which I encountered few gated communities. In fact, I can really only think of (literally) a handful in the greater New Haven area, and they were all quite small. (They occur with much greater frequency in Fairfield County; which is not considered part of the GNHA) Therefore, I seriously question the impact that they would have on those statistics. </p>

<p>Re: Statistics.
Furthermore, I question statistics, period. They're easily manipulated (anyone who's written a research paper can cite the statistic most supportive of their argument) and often irrelevant. A recurring theme on this thread has been the consistent improvement of the city of New Haven. It has not always been a nice place to be, but over the last several years a tremendous amount of gentrification and urban renewal has occurred, the majority of which has been focused downtown in those areas surrounding Old Campus & YLS; near Science Hill (note: this is different from "the Hill", a neighborhood to which I have previously referred) & the Div School; and in grad student neighborhoods (East Rock/Orange Street, Wooster Square).</p>

<p>Urban renewal occurs incrementally; block by block, street by street. To take statistics even from the city as a whole (let alone the greater New Haven area) would offer an inaccurate picture of New Haven, especially in light of ongoing improvements.</p>

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<p>Once again, pip-pip is correct.</p>

<p>If the million-dollar condominiums, luxury apartment blocks, jazz clubs, very expensive restaurants and tony shops opening by the dozen every month in the area around downtown New Haven and Yale are any indication, the area is obviously quite well-off. Anywhere outside of Southern Connecticut or the Silicon Valley area (the two wealthiest urban areas in the United States), there would simply not be a market to support that kind of activity in a relatively small downtown area like New Haven's.</p>

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<p>The Goebbels "big lie" theory of public relations, as practiced by "Poster X" a/k/a the YALIE TROLL.</p>

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<p>hahaha byerly calling someone a troll. thanks for my laugh of the night</p>

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<p>This guy now calling himself "Poster X" has been around for years - primarily shilling for New Haven on the late lamented Princeton Review site - where he earned the sonbriquet "the YALIE TROLL." </p>

<p>He posted there using a string of aliases. </p>

<p>He used to post here on the CC site as "Brown Alum" most recently. Needless to say, "Brown Alum" had little to say about Brown, but a lot to say about Yale in General and New Haven in Particular.</p>

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This guy now calling himself "Poster X"

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just how does one set about determining the gender of a troll? Wait,.. I don't want to know,..</p>

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<p>He had female alises, too ... including "Vermont Girl" and "Real Estate Mom."</p>

<p>"Mom" use to regale us with tales of New Haven's "gentrification" and the hundreds of "upscale martini bars" within 11 inches of the Yale campus.</p>

<p>"She" also pioneered the technique - still utilized via the "Poster X" alias - of claiming that New Haven is one of the nation's wealthiest "cities" by liumping it in with the wealthy exurban gated communities (at some distance from the real New Haven) where all the white people live - as opposed to the core city.</p>

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<p>New York City has the same (actually a bit lower) percentage of non-hispanic white people than New Haven does, yet nobody thinks it is not wealthy. The reality is that all cities have different neighborhoods, different groups of people with different income levels, etc. New Haven just happens to be extremely wealthy on average if you look at the downtown area around Yale, or if you consider the area as a whole (like, the area within a 20-minute drive of the center of New Haven). That doesn't mean poor people don't live there, or any other wealthy area of the U.S. But even many of the areas just a short walk from Yale are incredibly wealthy, with gorgeous, $2+ million mansions.</p>

<p>Most of the world's population lives in a city, which is perhaps part of the reason why Yale is now the most selective college in the United States - i.e., people would rather live in a real place than in a fake, early-closing, "disneyland"-like college town such as Harvard Square.</p>

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<p>Interesting thread. I feel as though some posters may have exaggerated New Haven's quality as a college town.</p>

<p>I have no gripes. There are great restaurants, some cool stores, pretty scenery... in the few-block radius immediately surrounding Yale. Beyond that - I have no idea. I've never ventured that far. I have no need to. Four blocks from Park St. could be entrance to hell for all I know... it wouldn't affect Yale students.</p>

<p>What I'm saying is this: New Haven is a fine college town, offering all the amenities I could desire... and being a former Manhattanite, I'm used to being surrounded by, well, amenities. HOWEVER, much of New Haven's appeal for me is that it isn't large and that students don't travel very deep - if they did, that would detract from the strength of the campus community, which is irrefutably and mind-bogglingly STRONG. New Haven is not an amazing urban hub - it's a nice place with a chic neighborhood around Yale, with just enough urban oomph to satisfy students (or, at least, this student!) yet not so much that the campus community is negatively impacted.</p>

<p>It's a good balance. But it's not for everyone. Some might prefer a decidedly rural campus, and some might prefer a major city school with no discernible campus at all. </p>

<p>But, um, gentrification and economic growth notwithstanding ... there is by no means an overabundance of amazing bars/restaurants/clubs/outlets-for-entertainment in easy reach. There are enough, but not oodles. It isn't NYC.</p>

<p>Although, getting to NYC is easy and many students can sate their NYC necessities with one trip per semester.</p>

<p>Other notes: I did not feel unsafe at any point during my first year.</p>

<p>Also, many students DO delve deep into New Haven, especially those philanthropic souls affiliated with Dwight Hall (on-campus community service HQ.) I'm much more morally repugnant than said students and hence have not left the so-called Yale bubble, except to get delicious pizza at Sally's and Pepe's, located in a neighborhood that was pristine enough to merit my roommate's calling it the "Sally's and Pepe's bubble." I should add: regardless of any purported academic excellence, prestige and other hogswallop, Yale University is the best place in the world because of its godly proximity to those two pizzerias. Honestly: heaven on earth. Twice.</p>