<p>WashU: 1370-1530</p>
<p>how does washu get such high SAT scores... their revealed preference rank is sooo low</p>
<p>'how does washu get such high SAT scores'</p>
<p>One way is enrollment management.</p>
<p>"USC, Carnegie Mellon, Tulane, Washington University in St. Louis, NYU, Syracuse, Boston College, and Boston University are among the highest-profile schools committed to ambitious enrollment-management strategies"</p>
<p>According to Hopkins website, for the class of 2006: 1340-1540.</p>
<p>to verify Hopkins SAT data, visit the website:
<a href="http://apply.jhu.edu/facts/facts.html%5B/url%5D">http://apply.jhu.edu/facts/facts.html</a></p>
<p>Lest anyone get the wrong impression about WashU or any of the other schools mentioned above by luxartesveritas, the referenced article includes the following:</p>
<p>"Three quarters of four-year colleges and universities employ an enrollment manager to oversee admissions and financial aid. The position is standard at private schools, and is spreading quickly across public institutions."</p>
<p>Trying to attract the strongest possible class of students is the objective of every school. They may define "strongest" differently, but college admissions work is not charity. Taking moralizing or cheap shots at schools like WashU is easy, but it also misses the larger point. College admissions (for both the student and the colleges) is very competitive and the competition for the top students (later to be graduates/alumni) is potentially (likely!) what will define the school in the years and decades ahead.</p>
<p>The JHU numbers are for ADMITTED students - the actual SAT numbers for JHU's ENTERING class: 1290 - 1490, for the Class of either 2010 or 2009 - must recent available on collegeboard</p>
<p>At least JHU shows some class and states clearly they are for the admitted students in their footnotes. Some schools don't even do that.</p>
<p>well, Collegeboard.com is my source for all this info - not the college websites themselves. What school tries to pretend admitted and enrolled are the same? I guess for Harvard it wouldn't make a difference.</p>
<p>thethoughtprocess,
I spent some time this morning on collegeboard's site. I think that some of the information is updated and some is not which results in a lot of apples and oranges comparison. Do you know if there is any notation on what version of the CDS they are drawing from for each school?</p>
<p>thethoughtprocess,</p>
<p>U of Florida is one example: <a href="http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/ugrad/frprofile05.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/ugrad/frprofile05.html</a></p>
<p>UF website: 1210-1380
collegeboard.com: 1140-1360</p>
<p>Hawkette, Collegeboard is fully updated. What you are referring to is the fact that some schools did not have any changes in their SAT ranges. And how I know that they are fully updated is by looking at other information provided on the site, such as percentage in top 10 and transfer admit rates.</p>
<p>the new ranges reveal the following</p>
<p>Penn pretty much equals NU which pretty much equals UChicago</p>
<p>1330-1510 for Penn
1320-1500 for NU
1320-1530 for Chicago</p>
<p>we are talking about +/- 15 points here</p>
<p>and for ACTs, NU is 29-33
Chicago is 28-32
Penn is 29-33</p>
<p>I doubt if Northwestern's numbers have been updated. This is the same SAT range and the same reported admissions rate (30%) recorded in the 2007 USN&WR for students entering in fall, 2005.</p>
<p>i have a question...</p>
<p>WHO ARE THE KIDS WHO GET IN THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT RANGE...LIKE FOR EXAMPLE A 1400 APPARENTLY CAN GET ADMITTED INTO PENN..? obviously they accept a good deal of middle of thier range students</p>
<p>also if your score falls in the mid range for SAT and or ACT what do your chances look like?</p>
<p>1400 from the OLD sat.</p>
<p>no i know, so 1400 not counting the writing section</p>
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<p>WHO ARE THE KIDS WHO GET IN THAT ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT RANGE...LIKE FOR EXAMPLE A 1400 APPARENTLY CAN GET ADMITTED INTO PENN..? obviously they accept a good deal of middle of thier range students
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<p>legacy
athletes
people who started their own businesses
multi-millionaires
early decision candidates
published authors
valedictorians
affirmative action candidates
geographic affirmative action candidates
people who got lucky</p>
<p>Students getting into U Penn and similar quality schools with SAT scores in the middle of the SAT range include students coming from well regarded private schools. In U Penn's case, they number almost 50% of the entering class. These students frequently have strong transcripts in a variety of college level courses and they have had the opportunity to pad their resumes with a wide variety of extra curriculars, including some with leadership. The schools they come from often have close ties with the admissions office and X number of students are chosen from their school every year.</p>
<p>You realize that the middle 50% is HALF the class. And another 25% get in with lower scores. Chill out.</p>