<p>If individuals are funding scholarships and those donors are fine with the idea that int’l students can qualify for those scholarships as well, then it shouldn’t matter if the school is public or not. </p>
<p>As far as the cheating on SAT tests that may be going on overseas, I don’t know what the best solution for that is. Maybe the student’s fingerprint needs be stamped on the exam and then it must pass a final verification once the student arrives on campus. Fewer kids would risk having someone else take a test for them if they knew that their fingerprints would be compared when they arrive in the US.</p>
<p>Please read the links I posted, m2ck. The cheating is not just on the SAT (thats bad enough) its rampant fabricating of application essays, letters of recc, etc. Its quite distasteful, to say the least. In other threadsa they talked about the crash courses in English that many of these students take in
the summer after they are accepted so they can speak/understand well enough to attend.</p>
<p>Whatdamcfudge, you should just stay off this thread because you are going to feel attacked and you will want to lash out. You have already. Poetgrl does not deserve to be the subject of your frustration. Undocumented students and immigrants, in this country, have enemies, but they are not on this thread. None of the people are in a position to hurt you, so channel your energies elsewhere. I wish you luck in obtaining an education.</p>
<p>If you read my posts, you will see I have no problem, at all, with undocumented students recieving instate tuition, and no problem, either, with private funds being spent on scholarships for these students.</p>
<p>I would like a better, more systematic solution, and my concern is for those who are hurt by the trafficers and taken advantage of when they get here and need protection, which is why I suggested we a need a strong guest worker program, which would include instate tuition for the students. I also suggested decriminalization of drugs is one of the best ways to dry up the market for those same illegal drugs.</p>
<p>Oh, and earlier on, I asked the question of why we hadn’t invested more in infrastructure and schooling in Mexico, as we have in other places in the world.</p>
<p>If this makes me a despicable human being? I don’t know what I can do about that.</p>
<p>Oh, and for the record, if you were a completely naturalized citizen of the united states and spoke in that tone of voice, I would still say you were acting entitled. Sad but true.</p>
<p>As for the real world? My kids are older than you and I’ve done just fine out here. </p>
<p>Good luck to you. I recognize you are just frightened. I have no intention of trying to hurt you, in any way.</p>
<p>Please read the links I posted, m2ck. The cheating is not just on the SAT (thats bad enough) its rampant fabricating of application essays, letters of recc, etc. Its quite distasteful, to say the least. In other threadsa they talked about the crash courses in English that many of these students take in the summer after they are accepted so they can speak/understand well enough to attend.</p>
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<p>Oh I know… The cheating isn’t limited to SAT, SAT IIs and Toefl…it includes essays.</p>
<p>Are they faking their school transcripts? And LORs?</p>
<p>But, really, I’m not sure if the unscrupulous student-hunters are really causing this. I think that even without them there are millions of people that really want to go to school here and some will find ways to cheat to get admitted if necessary. </p>
<p>Probably at least weekly, there is an int’l posting that they want to go to an ivy league school or MIT…that is all their parents will accept. Well, when you will only consider a tiny number of schools as acceptable, then some will cross the ethical line to gain an edge.</p>
<p>I realize that sometimes people are asked to compose their own LOR, but then the “recommender” reads it over, maybe fine tunes it, and is the one who signs and sends it in.</p>
<p>That’s different from faking LORs. What are you describing?</p>
I don’t want to make any generalizations, so I will restrict my statement to what I do know: graduate programs in my field use different criteria when evaluating applications from China because it is assumed that most applicants have composed their letters of recommendation themselves and that the content of the letters is not well correlated with the strength of the applicant. For example, some programs interview Chinese applicants (but do not interview other applicants) and some programs only admit Chinese students who were personally recommended by a trusted colleague in China.</p>
<p>What I found interesting about #398 was that it had no bibliography, citations or footnotes.</p>
<p>Googling further, it appears the author of the posted piece actually runs a company that recruits and aids Chinese students to attend American U. (or as sylvan so tastefully put it, “these people”.)</p>
<p>“In a recent conversation with Academic Impressions, Tom Melcher, chairman of ***** China (an entity*that offers services to assist Chinese families with college choice and helps admissions officers in the US identify their best-fit Chinese candidates), offered practical advice for how institutions new to recruiting in the Chinese market can:”</p>
<p>Now all you 2 billion Chinese know who to contact to help you into our schools!</p>
<p>parent1986,
Your post is #398. If you are referring to mine (#396) I didn’t link the article again from which the quote is snipped, because I’ve posted and linked it at least once, if not twice earlier in this thread.</p>