New Student/Family Orientation

<p>Since we were close enough to Chapman, we brought a mini fridge that we had from our older son who had moved into an apt. Son kept cold water in a Britta pitcher and milk in it. College kids can live on cold cereal quite nicely - and Chapman’s dining hall hours at night aren’t fantastic. </p>

<p>This saved him and his roommates many times, when they couldn’t get to the dining hall before they closed.</p>

<p>They were in a triple, and although cramped for space, they loved having it in their room.</p>

<p>I recall we were assigned a late hour move-in around 2 or 3 p.m. We stopped by the night before to ask the Resident Assistant (RA) in a friendly, informal way if we could look for a moment at any triple in that dorm. The RA unlocked the closest triple for us. They’re very busy so this was nice of him. We glanced at it for a few minutes, so we could understand the setup much better for last-minute shopping. </p>

<p>As for the first arrival taking the first bed, I’d like to offer another suggestion. Consider they’ll be living with these 2 other people all year. Getting a friendly, cooperative feeling in the room will solve many problems down the road. </p>

<p>My recommendation is to unpack but don’t assign beds until all 3 are in the room, then come up with something fair. Maybe the students can agree ahead to flip coins, or plan to rotate beds every few months, or jockey the advantageous aspects of the room. For example, the worst bed choice next to the best window view. </p>

<p>Triples have the option of 3 on-floor beds (but less floor space) or using two as bunks and keeping the 3rd bed free-standing. There are advantages to each one. The bunks are wooden beds and very solid, unlike shaky metal-frame summer camp bunk beds. </p>

<p>You might find among the 3 roommates that some have strong preferences and others care hardly at all. By grabbing the first, you set up a vibe that is unfair and can throw off the one who arrives last, no fault of his own. </p>

<p>As I recall, my S and his first roommate arrived within their allotted time, from way across the country. The 3rd guy, who actually had the shortest journey, arrived hours late, due to car trouble/late departure/parental angst/whatever.</p>

<p>Finally the two present had to decide and began to set up camp on the two lower beds, leaving him the top bunk. When he arrived, you could see it just broke his day that his parents’ late departure had cost him a fair chance at a bed choice. </p>

<p>So the 3 boys got together after dinner and just rearranged it all. That was the start of an excellent freshman year and all are still great friends. </p>

<p>I guess it’s worth thinking about how important it is to you to get the best bed first vs. establishing some kind of working process with your roommates to work out issues all year.</p>

<p>I hope they’re still doing this, but I recall the RA’s mandatory floor meeting helped every set of roommates draw up a contract about basic courtesies. This was really helpful to get things started well and gave them something to refer back to in later months. </p>

<p>P.S. On move-in day, the boys did much better after all 6 parents left the room. :)</p>

<p>PPS, Our guy liked the candle ceremony as the place to hug us and say goodbye…but then we’re big on rituals. It’s dark by then so nobody sees you cry. We moodged back to our hotel room. It was fine.</p>

<p>I would definitely agree with Paying3tuitions. They should work it all out together, and make the decisions together. This situation happened to my son last year, and even though they all had the same check in time, 2 of the boys got to the room faster due to a backlog at the check in table. By the time we got there, they had chosen the beds and set them up. My son decided not to make an issue of it, getting the top bunk, but did say that the RA’s would help set it up so that they could put the the third bed on the floor. The other two thought that would take up too much space in the room, and that they would “take turns” with the top bunk.</p>

<p>This never happened. The boy on the bottom bunk also bunked with his girlfriend about 2 or 3 times a week, which made for an even more awkward situation. He didn’t think they were getting lucky, but it really messed with his sleep cycle, because they would be chatting and moving on the bed directly beneath him. Son just didn’t spend much time in his room, and I wouldn’t say his RA was very proactive when problems came up. Every RA is different, though. He just let it go. If it had been me (or my other son), I suspect we would have handled it far differently. </p>

<p>Had they all had beds on the ground level, it would have been a better situation for all the boys, but instead, it was a control issue and did set a bad tone for the year.</p>

<p>I read and understand your points about making the bedding situation work. I have a son who doesn’t communicate his preferences very clearly, and I’m hoping that he will use rooming with others as practice to learning how to get along but not get run over. We’ll see. This thing with multiple overnights by opposite sex - do you think this is common?</p>

<p>There seems to be a mutual code among guys to help each other out in any way possible so that one of them can be “lucky” as they say. They will “sexile” each other (put a tie or some other code on the door midday) to alert others not to enter the room for an hour or so midday, that they might be alone with their partner. My sons learned to keep all their day’s papers in their bookbag, as one time one of them couldn’t hand in a small assignment on time because of being unexpectedly sexiled by a roommate midday. And the prof understood and saw it as a valid excuse. </p>

<p>I’ve read students on CC who feel that “sexiling” midday is more courteous to roommates than having a partner sleep over all night on any regular basis. So what seems discourteous might be relatively more courteous. </p>

<p>As for a steady partner staying over several nights per week, that’s a good example of both of the other roommates setting up some parameters if it bothers THEM (not us parents). Sometimes one of the home roommates also wanders away, too, freeing up space in the room. </p>

<p>An advantage of a triple is the roommate can turn to the other roommate to see if there’s common cause, then appeal to the third roommate in unified voice.</p>

<p>There is also a good chance one male roommate will be elsewhere on any given evening, whether to visit others or just to go home (if in commuter distance) or on a weekend trip somewhere. They don’t exactly stay buttoned down into the bed you’re paying for each and every night. </p>

<p>I know what you mean about having a kid who doesn’t express preferences well, as one of mine has that issue (not the Chapman kid). But flip that thought around in your head. It could mean great social acceptance on campus as an easy-going good friend, so it has its plus sides not to be considered difficult by others. </p>

<p>I find it helpful to ask my kids when they share stuff that bothers me… “what does X (the circumstance that bothers me as a parent) mean to you?” because it may or may not bother them the same degree as it does me sitting at home.</p>

<p>You are right that it’s a process to learn to be assertive with alienating roomates. It takes time, as you know. One of my kids would flee rather than confront a selfish roommate, and often lost use of her room. For months she was bunked in at the floor lounge of some friends rather than deal with her roommate who had her stuff all over the room. Situations are complicated. That roommate had been toid by her parents to move out of the house at age l8 so she had all her worldly possessions in the dorm room. Once I heard that, I had a larger picture and could see the point-of-view of both girls. And when I’d say, “hey we’re paying for that room; you should be using half of it…” then I was claiming my point-of-view (fiscally) so perhaps that gave her more courage to speak up. I don’t know.</p>

<p>I tried to speak more in “I-messages” about my parental view and claim it as such, but leave the outcomes with them. A parent’s take on a situation is valid. and it also has limits. Our take won’t rule our kids’ actions on campus., but if they ask they want to know what we think. Often I ended conversations after giving my perception of a situation they brought up, by saying: “You’re the one on the scene, not me; so you;ll know best what to do next if anything…but those were my thoughts.” And if I thought they were waaay off track, I’d say my thoughts but end with, “well, think about it…” and leave it always in their camp. “Well, think about it…” dignifies them and helps them grow without demanding compliance or agreement.</p>

<p>I also never asked them for follow-up as sometimes these things just float away or they don’t want to tell you how they “solved” a roommate situation. It’s only a roommate, not a marriage, and they change each year so the stakes are less. </p>

<p>It is just the beginning of seeing them make it on their own, and realizing we don’t see or influence as much as we used to when they lived at home. WHich is a good thing. It helps them grow up. But I understand your feelings when your kid is one of those nice guys. Take heart, though. In the end, he’ll win because people will want to be his friend more than if he’s overbearing. But he might not get to sleep where you paid for each and every night in freshman year. I hope that makes a tiny bit of sense…</p>

<p>P.S. In the end I learned not to overplay my hand on the phone or emails about my opinion on whatever was happening in the rooms, not that they shared much, but from the little bits that were shared I could know what was troubling my own kids. If you listen without judgment or solutions they’ll tell you more, and just listening to them as a safe, non-judgmental audience will help them gather strength to act on their own to assert themselves as they need to with their roommates. They, not us, are there on the scene and know all the counter-effects of their words, the actual personalities involved, and the culture surrrounding them. At the same time they are individuals so you want to see them grow in that way, and they will if they make some mistakes.</p>

<p>What’s a mistake? Well, my kid I mentioned who spent nearly a year outside of her room learned to pick her next roommates much more carefully. She wised up but never asserted herself with THAT roommate that same year. She learned and the results showed the following year in her choices. I finally learned to listen and validate what they were feeling rather than tell them what to do about their current problem. Very hard learning for me.</p>

<p>PS, All the above behaviors about sexiling, sleepovers etc I’m merely describing, not condoning. There are also many students who make different personal choices and go through 4 years doing exactly what their parents think they should do because it matches their own values even AFTER they think it all through and see other behaviors, not because their parents told them so. That’s also growth. </p>

<p>Each day I wake up and say to myself, “They are adults…” and I take the day from there. As young adults they still call out to ask me for advice or to hear out an issue, but the weight they place on issues isn’t the same as mine, and their solutions rarely echo my thoughts of how to best solve it. Yet I see sometimes the influence of our conversation on the outcome, sometimes. That’s satisfying to me. I feel I play a valuable role in their lives as active listener, safety valve, resource, consultant. </p>

<p>Whoever wrote “be a consultant, not a manager” should receive a prize :)</p>

<p>Wow! What a wise and useful post. Thanks so much for all of your points and the lovely, reasonable and respectful way they were presented. You must be a great mom!</p>

<p>(As for all the sex stuff, fellow parent readers who might be shocked. Sex in dorms has been around a long long time and it is not going away. In my opinion, it is nothing to worry about as long as all consider the feelings of others. I went to college in 1965.I lived in my then future husband’s dorm room with him and 2 other guys. We slept in his single bed. We were considerate and polite. We were fine. They were fine. We never announced our need for privacy or locked anyone out. We worked around his roomies’ schedule. No big deal at all. The key as the kids would say is not to be a jerk – and that goes for the “lucky” roommate [male or female] the lucky visitor and the less-lucky that day roomies)</p>

<p>I was cleaning out my desk today (long overdue) and I found the Family Orientation Schedule for last summer at Chapman.</p>

<p>Here it is, if anyone is interested.</p>

<p>Tues, August 19</p>

<p>8-5 Orientation Check in </p>

<p>8-430 Residence Life Check in</p>

<p>4-5 Disciples on Campus New Parent Reception</p>

<p>5:30 - 8 pm - Opening Dinner (Tiki Luau Dinner)</p>

<p>Wednesday, August 20</p>

<p>7-815 Continental breakfast</p>

<p>7 - 815 Orientation check in (for those arriving late</p>

<p>830 - 945 Opening Convocation</p>

<p>10 - 1215 Making the Transition</p>

<p>1215-145 All American BBQ lunch or
Lunch and Info session for students with disabilities or
International Student Lunch</p>

<p>2 - 3 pm Academic Life at Chapman</p>

<p>3-4 pm Money Matters</p>

<p>4-5 pm Student Services Fair</p>

<p>430-530 Greek Life Info Session</p>

<p>5-630 Jazz it Up New Orleans Dinner</p>

<p>630-730 pm Parent Student Panel</p>

<p>745 - 845 Residence Life Family meet and greet
Commuter Life Meeting</p>

<p>9 - 10 History and Traditions - Candle Ceremony</p>

<p>there were also additional meetings with the students and RA’s during the first and second days at assorted times.</p>