New York Post on How to Get into an Ivy League School

Applying to College
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Getting into an Ivy isn't like Buddhism or Alcoholics Anonymous - there's no set plan of steps you can take to enlightenment. With so many amazing students knocking at the doors to these colleges, it's hard to get in. Period. However, knowing what doesn't work might save you time, money, and sleep. I'd like to present you with several important don'ts-things you should never do if you want to get into an Ivy League college...

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<p>Some of the points the author lists are well-known to CC regulars, but it's worth a read.</p>

<p>CC's Sally Rubenstone is quoted, too: Applied</a> Sciences: How to Get into an Ivy League School.</p>

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<p>glad to see that most of these are common sense & that i've followed all of them =P</p>

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<p>Well... that's not actually true about Buddhism. ;)</p>

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<p>I liked that, it was nice. Especially the part about not giving yourself an ulcer. :)</p>

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<p>the New York Post is writing about Ivy League admissions.......?????</p>

<p>I'm definitely getting old......</p>

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<p>A lot of good advice. Only problem I have with the article is the part about Early Decisions. Jager-Hyman encourages people to apply the ED, but doesn't say anything about the financial implications. For any really uninformed high schooler who take many of the points at heart, they may apply ED even though they can't pay for it without being in serious debt. </p>

<p>The line</p>

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"Don't pass up your chance to apply Early Decision, if possible. "

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<p>doesn't really cut it as a warning.</p>

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<p>How do you know how many AP's you can handle?</p>

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<p>it's a good article. very down-to-earth</p>

<p>skramata: the purpose of the article is "how to get into an ivy league school." it assumes your sole goal is to get in. besides, ivies have great fin aid.</p>

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<p>"Ivy League" is convenient (and perhaps unfortunate) shorthand for any ultra-selective school.</p>

<p>If there's something I don't like about the title, it's the implication that Ivy League (and similar) schools are the thing to strive for, and that anything else is second best.</p>

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<p>Agreed Roger. I guess it helps to sell papers by using "Ivy League" rather than "selective" or "good" college.</p>

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<p>Roger, The New York Post is not known for its appreciation of various subtle differences. The Post is constantly waging a "class war," and I don't mean the 9th graders against the 10th graders. They use words like "posh" and "tony" to describe anyone who earns more than $50,000. They write for a very blue collar audience.</p>

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<p>I'm familiar with the reputation of the Post, but it seems like even their readers lust for Ivies! :)</p>

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<p>I think that's what sounds "tony" to their readers. No one would read an article entitled: *How to Get into a State University of New York *</p>

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While it's true that SAT (or ACT) scores have absolutely nothing to do with success later on in life, they do count in college admissions.

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<p>haha, well if they count for college admissions they clearly count for success later in life..</p>

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<p>This is total BS. The name on the diploma matters for one and only one thing - the first job. With the exception of a few lines of work, nobody will give a rat's a** where you graduated from when you start looking for your second job 3-5 years later. Ironically, the only exception is academia, which is obsessed with these things. Even mid and third-tier colleges will give preference to degrees from "super selective" colleges over their own graduates. Tells you something how much they believe in their own cookin', doesn't it?</p>

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<p>I think he was kidding.</p>

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<p>And I'll guarantee you he was not.</p>

<p>It's just not all that important where you graduated from once you get a few years away from academia. What you have been able to accomplish in your career counts for much more.</p>

<p>A degree from a selective college opens that first door to a career--and possibly to graduate schools (including medical and law schools). That's about it. </p>

<p>P.S. But let's stay off this subject (which is covered in a thousand other threads)--and not hijack the thread away from its original focus.</p>

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<p>The best advice for parents is to move to an under-represented state (Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota come to mind) before your student's senior year. You can't make an URM from a non-URM but you can move. Apologies, in advance, for the levity.</p>

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<p>well you can always do a michael jackson</p>

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This is total BS. The name on the diploma matters for one and only one thing - the first job. With the exception of a few lines of work, nobody will give a rat's a** where you graduated from when you start looking for your second job 3-5 years later. Ironically, the only exception is academia, which is obsessed with these things. Even mid and third-tier colleges will give preference to degrees from "super selective" colleges over their own graduates. Tells you something how much they believe in their own cookin', doesn't it?

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<p>you're probably right, but the first job i'm sure can sometimes be really important.</p>