<p>Thank you Fishbowl! That was just the sort of info I was looking for! I'm kind of new to this sight and haven't yet figured everything out, so I was having trouble searching for the right info.</p>
<p>And as far as not being able to pay for BoCo, they didn't offer me any scholarships, so that's $48,000/year; Tisch gave me a small scholarship, plus some work study, so that takes the price down a little. I wish BoCo had SOMETHING they could offer me!</p>
<p>Boco is not $48K. It is $38K. Here is the link fhttp://<a href="http://www.bostonconservatory.edu/admissions/Tuition_Fees.pdfor">www.bostonconservatory.edu/admissions/Tuition_Fees.pdfor</a> Boco tuition:</p>
<p>A meal plan is not $10K.</p>
<p>Sorry, here is the link:</p>
<p>Admissions told my dad that with all expenses added in it would end up being about $45,000-$48,000.</p>
<p>If you know something I don't, or if my dad is wrong, PLEASE let me know!</p>
<p>.... seriously, because I'm going crazy over this whole thing!</p>
<p>I was told for next year as a freshman that the estimated expenses are $50,000.00 for everything, room and board, spending, tuition, etc. That is what my family is going off of, but contact Tisch if it comes down to an official financial decision.</p>
<p>Chris</p>
<p>YES, Tisch is $50,000, but I got a small scholarship and work study from them.</p>
<p>The $45,000-48,000 was referring to Sissy's post about BoCo.</p>
<p>Boston is 35,000-38,000, and after freshman year they have opportunities to apply/reaudition for scholarships. it wouldn't come up to that much money, my parents didn't object to boco and they would never pay that much for school</p>
<p>TheActr, a friend of my D is in the same boat as you, trying to choose between those two. Her parents were told the same thing re: total expenses estimated at BoCo. Once you add in a mealplan, personal expenses, books, etc., it's not unreasonable that you may be up to $45,000. You might want to see if you can talk to some current BoCo students to get an idea of what kinds of expenses they face that may not be listed on the proposed budget. Same with NYU. There are always going to be expenses which Admissions people don't include, at every college. Livejournal is a good resource for this. Boston, like NYC, is an expensive city in which to live and go to school.</p>
<p>Response to two recent topics on this thread...</p>
<p>Senior year program at CAP21, as well as showcase....Just to clarify as it is not as MattSingsAlot indicated though he did say he was unsure about this. CAP21 does have a fourth year option in the program for those who have been in CAP since freshman year. The fourth year involves industry professionals....such as Broadway directors and known casting agencies coming in to work with the students. There is a lot of emphasis on the audition process and careers in the field (the business). It culminates in a showcase that all the seniors in this program can participate in. It is just CAP students. Tisch ALSO has industry nights (which is a showcase) for all of Tisch and one must audition to be selected for that showcase and that one is not limited to musical theater. As well, because the school is in NYC, industry folks are brought in often. As well, often they attend performances. There is a lot of networking. Students are where the auditions take place, etc. </p>
<p>About tuition of BOCO vs. Tisch....people need to compare apples to apples as I have mentioned before. When comparing TOTAL costs, you have to put the same line items into the totals. So, for example, I have LAST year's fees since I have a child who got into both BOCO and Tisch last year. BOCO, for tuition, room and the 19 meal plan cost approx. $42,000. For Tisch, for tuition, room, and similar meal plan cost approx. $46,000. So, NYU cost $4000 more LAST year than BOCO did. However, each student must compare financial aid packages. I am not going to list each part of my child's package from each school but JUST talking of the SCHOLARSHIP part, not the loans....Tisch gave hera $20,000 scholarship and BOCO gave her a $7500 scholarship, thus making Tisch cheaper. Of the seven FA packages and scholarships my D received, BOCO's scholarship was one of the lowest of the seven, though I recall PSU being the lowest scholarship offer. I believe the student on this thread who is deciding between these two schools, said he/she got a scholarship at Tisch but not from BOCO. If the two school's' fees are about $4000 apart (using just tuition/room/board based on last year's fees), then a scholarship from Tisch might either wipe out that difference or possibly make Tisch cheaper. The total fees for tuition/room/board are not a huge difference and then the financial aid packages would need to be compared. I know that many BOCO students, after freshman year, tend to live off campus though I have no idea what that costs, only that this is VERY common at that school.</p>
<p>Susan</p>
<p>Susan, I know I've seen this before on one of the threads, but can you give me the quick answer as to whether the cost of the (required) private voice lessons is included in tuition for CAP21 students, or is it additional? I read that it's $500 for 5 lessons, but I'm wondering if that's for other studios. Can you clarify?</p>
<p>G....there is NO charge for private voice lessons for CAP21 students. It is part of their curriculum. They have private voice lessons for seven semesters starting second semester freshman year. My D goes to a private voice teacher the CAP21 faculty selected for her at her evaluation/reviews at the end of first semester. The private voice teacher's studio is not right at CAP. I believe my D has nine private lessons this semester. Of course, she also has Vocal Tech (different voice teacher) which includes individualized work/songs as well. So, in some ways, she has two voice teachers....one in class three times per week, and then the private one once/week. She likes them both very much. I believe she is to stay with the same private one for the remainder of her time at NYU. </p>
<p>There are NO extra charges at college for her other than for any other school....books, etc. My guess is that the charges you read about were for students who want private voice from other studios but I am not well versed on how that works. Your son has it all included. </p>
<p>I owe you (and many others) emails but I have not been online for almost a week and so have it piled up...I just returned. I will get back to you as soon as I can. I hope your son got something out of Sat. in the Square...was thinking of you guys.</p>
<p>PS...I read your son's happy news about CAP studio placement and am happy for him.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info on private voice, S. That's good to know, especially since he's decided definitely on CAP21!</p>
<p>This past weekend was very helpful. Dean Campbell and President Sexton were very charismatic speakers, and the current students obviously liked them, since they were cheering from the stands! John Sexton's story about going with his daughter to visit colleges and him only being "discovered" at Penn was hysterical. He's truly a great storyteller.</p>
<p>We walked over to the Film & TV Building, I think it is, where CAP21 is located, and about 5 or 6 exuberant young students were chatting just outside the building. Afterwards, I wondered if one of them might have been your daughter. They asked if we were looking for CAP and told us to go on up to the 6th floor and speak to the guy at the desk, who would let us look around. Sure enough, he welcomed us and told us to make ourselves at home. It's a quaint old place, but there's something warm about it, and I have to say, everyone we encountered seemed so happy to be there. I'm sure there must be exceptions, but the overall feeling was very positive.</p>
<p>I'm satisfied that my son made the right decision. Maybe we'll meet someday after all!</p>
<p>So, do you have to audition to be included in Showcase with such a big class? The infastructure at Tisch is quite unique and hard to understand!</p>
<p>Matt...I am not sure which showcase you are referring to. The CAP showcase is for ALL fourth year CAP students. I don't know the number off hand of how many were in it this past year. Most entering CAP classes (as a whole....not talking individual course classes) are about 64 students. This year's freshmen class was larger because more accepted the offer of admissions than expected (a higher yield than in the past). However, there are not 64 seniors in CAP. As many know, Tisch students can opt to do a secondary studio after two years in their primary studio. Some CAP students opt to go into acting studios for their secondary studio. Some do CAP for three years and opt to do something else for the fourth year, like Stonestreet Studio. The fourth year CAP program was new this past year. It was only available to those who had been in CAP since freshman year (all four years). ALL those enrolled in CAP as fourth years were in the showcase. My D saw it but I can't tell you for sure how many were in it but it was ALL who were in the fourth year CAP program, no audition required to be in the showcase. I will GUESS 25 but I'd have to find out. The CAP showcase was in December. Someone from the summer theater program you went to last year, where my D attended, whom you do not know because she attended for many summers prior to you, was a senior in that showcase and had various agent offers and signed with one afterwards. The "class" in this showcase was not "big". </p>
<p>The OTHER showcase which is called Industry Nights is for ALL of Tisch Drama and you must audition to get into that one, which is not JUST for MT. </p>
<p>Did you end up getting into CAP?</p>
<p>In terms of "big", BOCO (where I believe you were going to attend at one point) also has a similarly sized entering freshman class but the seniors in their showcase is a smaller number four years later. Not all stay in the program. At Tisch, it is designed so that students can opt to train in a secondary studio their last two years or just their last year. But they can stay in CAP if they choose. So, the number of seniors is lower than the number of freshmen in CAP due to these options (which are program choices, not cuts).</p>
<p>G, sorry, I did not see your post just now. I can't tell if you were at Tisch at 721 Broadway or at CAP21 which is on 18th between 5th and 6th. I have barely been at CAP myself. When my D was in tenth grade, she observed two dance classes at CAP that a friend was in and I met up with her afterward and so was in a little lobby there and maybe that was the sixth floor, I forget.</p>
<p>On Parent Weekend this past Oct., I would have LOVED to have finally been to a presentation about CAP and been IN CAP but I only learned that there would be something at CAP itself in the schedule on Parent Weekend, much later than the original schedules had published about Parent Weekend and so I had tix to the matinee at Spelling Bee with my D and my other D who had come into the city for Parent Weekend as it was also HER Parent Weekend at her college (couldn't go to both!) and so my hubby went to the CAP presentation that day, so, alas, I haven't been IN CAP much at all. At Sat. in the Square, I was at events at Tisch at 721 Broadway which I assume you also attended. They had students there at that reception to talk with. </p>
<p>I kinda do not think you ran into my daughter on Saturday, though I must say, she is the exuberant type, LOL. (maybe all theater kids are!) I recall when ChrisNoo had his audition, he ran into my D who did end up talking to him about CAP, though at the time, neither knew the CC "connection". Anyway, she told me that Saturday she took a Bikraim Yoga class....have no idea where that was....then had a meeting about a project she was asked to work on....then did homework and then did the lottery for The Drowsy Chaperone on Broadway (got in to see it with friends) and so I really don't think she was involved in Sat. in the Square or at CAP that day but who knows. Our kids will surely meet up, next year. I bet you are glad that decision is over for your guy!</p>
<p>re: private voice lessons. My daughter DOES take her private voice at CAP; she's lucky she doesn't have to travel!</p>
<p>For other studios re: private voice. Tisch 2 credit course, no extra charge unless you exceed 18 credits. My s registered for this his 1st semester.</p>
<p>RossJi....I just assumed everyone had to travel to their voice teacher's place! I guess it depends who you get. My D has to take a subway to her voice teacher's. One more thing to fit in! But she likes her a lot so that's the main thing. Jasmom, thanks for adding that information because I was not sure how it works for kids in other studios. I recall you mentioning that your son has taken voice and that the 2 credit course fits into his credit allotment for NYU for a semester. I am unsure of what edmondsg's quote about the $500 is about, but only knew it did not apply to CAP.</p>
<p>Susan,
We did spend most of Saturday at 721 Broadway and the Skirball Center, but Friday we took the school tour then walked on our own up to the CAP studio on 18th St. (near Union Square). We didn't expect to go inside -- mostly just wanted to see where it was. But because the kids outside were so encouraging, we went on up and were glad we did. Everyone was very welcoming. The wood floors were squeaky and we joked about how it must get noisy in there when they dance. The bulletin boards lining the hall show the class schedule and upcoming shows. There weren't any classes going on, but there was one person practicing a dance routine on her own.</p>
<p>The $500 per 5 one-hour voice lessons was in a general Tisch pamphlet I picked up, so maybe it doesn't apply to drama students at all. Not sure, but I'm glad it doesn't apply to CAP!</p>