News story about UCD overcrowding on Channel 5 KPIX News

Colleges & Universities A-Z University of California - Davis
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<p>Anybody see the news story on the 11 o’clock news tonight (05/23/2006) about the overcrowding at UC Davis? Story pointed out that 3 people being squeezed into small 2 person rooms this Fall. Sophomores, Junior, and Seniors having to look for housing off campus because no room for them on campus. They interviewed one UCD student, I think he was a sophomore, and he said, “This sucks”. </p>

<p>They interviewed one of the UCD administrators and he didn’t seem to care. Why am I not surprised.</p>

<p>Maybe the genius administrators at UCD who caused this overbooking problem can start a “hot bunking” program for students like they have on nuclear subs where they have one bunk for two or three people and each person assigned to the bunk gets to use it for eight hours when they are not on duty. </p>

<p>Since freshmen appear to be the only ones who are guaranteed on campus housing at UCD; I wonder what it is going to be like for any upper class students who can’t find on campus housing when they have to go into a highly competitive and tiny local rental market and try to rent an apartment? I’ll bet the local landlords are going to see this as a golden opportunity to jack up rental prices because housing is small and the number of displaced UCD students is going to be so big. Of course you can always move to Sacramento and commute 15 or 20 miles each way to school. Might even be some housing in Vacaville where you commute about 40 miles each way to school. </p>

<p>Here’s some suggestions - When airlines overbook; don’t you get a refund or a free flight plus a hotel room until they can rebook you? How about some rent free rooms or 50% tuition cuts for students? Better yet, maybe some of the Chancellors and Vice-Chancellors can open up their homes and let 5 or 10 UCD students live with them?</p>

<p>I see that Chancellor Vanderhoef recently survived a no confidence vote of the faculty holding tenured, tenure-track and emeriti positions:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.dateline.ucdavis.edu/dl_detail.lasso?id=8699[/url]”>http://www.dateline.ucdavis.edu/dl_detail.lasso?id=8699</a></p>

<p>The above linked news story says that the resolution sought to “condemn the recent actions” of the chancellor for his “serious impropriety” and “irreparable damage to the image of UC Davis” related to an agreement he executed with former University Relations Vice Chancellor Celeste Rose. The above linked article also said that Rose resigned from her post last June and began serving as a senior adviser to the chancellor, a two-year appointment at an annual salary of $205,000. </p>

<p>Could this type of stuff be part of the reason why tuition is skyrocketing at UCs and students are forced to live three to a room? Is UCD flooding the school with students to add needed revenue?</p>

<p>The interesting thing about the vote was that out of a total of 2,513 eligible votes, only 1,054 votes were cast and the final tally was 320 votes in favor of the no confidence measure and 734 votes against the no confidence measure. There were 1,459 people eligible to vote for the measure who abstained from voting. How bad do things have to get at UCD before the 1,459 people who abstained from voting decide to vote in a no confidence measure election?</p>

<p>Seems to me that this overcrowding problem is not exactly helping UC Davis’ image.</p>

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<p>I don't believe the "three people having to live in a two person room" is entirely true. Could be true for somebody out there. Ex: they could be Davis Honor Challenge students, and they wanted to live in the same dorm, maybe they all wanted the same program, etc. I know that there some dorms still on campus which are vacant (one of my friends still lives by himself in a double, and it has been vacant since the beginning of the school year).</p>

<p>Also: Sophomores/Juniors/Seniors are expected to live off campus. There is no guaranteed housing after freshman year(just like most of the UCs) so they rent apartments or rent houses.</p>

<p>And: All UC tuitions have gone up, as part of budget cuts over the past few years. It is decided by the state government, go blame Arnold.</p>

<p>Who are you? Some kind of demogogue? Do you even go to UC Davis? Your satiric comments are not appreciated. Spread your hateful politics somewhere else.</p>

<p>PS: I've noticed that all of your past messages have been negative are solely targetted at UC Davis. Obviously you have something against the Chancellor and management. Do us all a favor and stop worrying the incoming freshman, they have enough to worry about (new classes, new friends, costs) without you cramming all this BS down their throats. Come back when you have something objective to say.</p>

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<p>Gimme a break, read my post in that other thread, its not the administrations fault that more students chose to come here this year. They are doing all they can to make things better, relax.</p>

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<p>it's not nearly so bad as you think it is.</p>

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<p>Try not to fret - remember that the media sensationalizes everything.</p>

<p>The administration is hard at work planning and arranging to make sure incoming students get all the courses they need. We take undergraduate education very seriously at UCD. </p>

<p>The rooms that are being converted to triples are oversized rooms and can easily accommodate triples. When UCD had unexpected growth spurts before, there were plenty of volunteers for the triples. If you really don't want a triple, chances are good that you won't be forced to be in one.</p>

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<p>Give me a break, it's not nearly as bad as you're making it out to be. More students than enrolled than expected due to imperfect yield management, not a conscious effort by the Chancellor or other administrators to increase enrollment. You need to keep in mind that every student is a money-losing proposition due to their subsidized tuition, so it's not a money-grubbing move by any stretch of the imagination. Besides, they'll now be spending more money to add more class sections and to rent private apartments for about 120 students to use. Seeing as how they predicted a maximum of 5,100 freshmen, but got 5,900 instead, that means they're putting an extra 700 students into student housing. Some will be squeezed into large doubles, while others will live 4 to a study area. With 4,500 students presently living in the dorms, that means at most about 10% of double rooms will be converted. With 5,000 freshmen and 18,000 other undergrads total, how many students are realistically being denied the chance to live in university housing anyway?</p>

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<p>Single rooms may be hard to find next year, they are even double bunking the RAs who normally get a single. The dorms that will be turned into triples are the ones with higher ceilings to accomodate true bunk beds. I expect the students will get a discount price, which is common for students in triples...but remember the cost of living in a dorm is more than the actual room, and many of those other costs will not be reduced.</p>

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<p>hey guess what, i just heard from an inside man that they're doing last minute renovations on some cow tents for human use. unfortunately, some freshmen will be forced to endure their own filth without electricity and running water for an entire year. so if you think tercero's bad... </p>

<p>on the plus side, though, this is a lifestyle well-suited to sustaining the environment which we so casually trash on a daily basis. i think it is an excellent first step to changing our culture's attitude towards acceptable living conditions; one cow tent at a time.</p>

<p>on a serious note, i'm sure that UC Davis' dorms will be very comfortable. also on a very serious note, i believe our culture is plummeting into an ecological abyss from which there is no return -- it is only a matter of time before doomsday: certain catastrophic cataclysm -- cataclysmic catastrophe.</p>

<p>and here we are, whining about how a few doubles are being converted to triples like the insatiable whiners we are... </p>

<p>be ashamed, for the dies irae is upon us!!</p>

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<p>Having spoken with someone on campus, I am cautiously optimistic that this will be little more than a bump in adjustment for the campus. There are so many people there that an additional 900 or so won't be that noticable. Consider if a town of 30,000 had an additional 900 visitors..</p>

<p>As for dorm space, there will be more triples but the feeling is that freshman will all be fed and housed as needed. It is a great school, no wonder so many students decided to pick Davis. Go Aggies.</p>

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<p>My professor told me about this about 2 weeks ago. All of the dorms that can be converted to triples will be (ie the new tercero dorms and all of segundo north). However, all of the old dorms will not be converted to triples because all of the furniture is bolted down and cannot be rearranged. Hope that helps clear up some misinformation.</p>

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<p>"There are so many people there that an additional 900 or so won't be that noticable. Consider if a town of 30,000 had an additional 900 visitors.."</p>

<p>That would seem like the case in the situation you posed where a "visitor" comes to a town, but every additional student puts a lot of pressure on the resources available on campus. In essence, university funding will be needed to be distributed among more students, thus cheapening the education for every individual student.</p>

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<p>unlimitedx you are a UCB student. You ought to know all about crowded conditions. Stop posting your bs on here.</p>

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<p>Of course I know, that is why I posted the post. I say the UC should adopt the waitlisting to prevent overenrollment. It will benefit in so many ways.</p>

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<p>Second that, or Berkeley and UCSD's spring deferrment also works.</p>

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<p>Davis is bigger than both UCB and UCSD. They have been planning for increased enrollement and should have no problem handling the extra students.</p>

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<p>"I don't believe the "three people having to live in a two person room" is entirely true. " Miller Hall has 3 kids per double and ya I saw that story I laughed when they asked the Asian guy what he thought and all he said was, "That sucks."</p>