<p>I'm just wondering how many people support this. I'm writing a philosophy of education right now for a class and strongly support it, but I know I'm in the minority.</p>
<p>Not sure if you can put polls on these posts, but I'm looking to see how many people like NCLB and how many don't.</p>
<p>I do NOT like it. I work in an elementary school. Once you are in a school, you will see it actually leaves kids behind in ways that you can't test and compromises the educational experience of everyone.</p>
<p>not a fan.</p>
<p>It's a waste of time for the students and teachers, a waste of resources, and does nothing to solve problems, yet creates more quite readily.</p>
<p>I'm against it as well.</p>
<p>to the OP, why do you like NCLB?</p>
<p>im against it.</p>
<p>I am against it.</p>
<p>I am for it.</p>
<p>I'm against it. It's a better idea, but the execution has been less than successful. I don't know why people think the way to better out educational system is implement even more standards. </p>
<p>Anyway, NCLB is borderline fascist anyway.</p>
<p>Against it.</p>
<p>In theory, it seems like a good idea...hold schools accountable for what they teach and punish the ones that don't meet the standards - perfect.</p>
<p>The problem of course is that, "punishing" schools by removing funding does nothing to help them get better in the future. And allowing students to freely transfer only perpetuates the problem as many of the funding formulas in place are based on student population size. This is even further compounded by the fact that Bush failed to even fund the plan to the levels he said he would when he pushed the legislation through.</p>
<p>Finally, I don't agree with the idea in principle as it is only a bandaid over a much larger problem of education in the US, which in my mind is the idea that school funding is largely tied to local property taxes. That's the real issue and the reason that inner city and rural districts will continue to remain behind their suburban counterparts. In places where property values are high (which usually means incomes are high), the local population can tax themselves at relatively low rates and still generate large sums of money to further local school district efforts. Areas where property values are lower must tax at much higher rates to generate similar levels of funds, and individuals are usually spending a higher percentage of their income supporting the districts. </p>
<p>To really solve the problem, the ways in which schools funded must be overhauled and approached from a state or national level.</p>
<p>Hate it. Getting a good education should be about more than just tests. It's taking out all the creativity in schools.</p>
<p>i hate it...having kids take a ridiculous amount of tests every year of high school isnt teaching them anything, all it does is give bad teachers incentive to cheat the system. i could rant for a while on this so i am going to keep it short</p>
<p>NCLB was a necessary evil (the least worst alternative) to a 3 decade liberal experiment involving child-centric self esteem based whole-reading/fuzzy math type leaning - which resulted in large numbers of students by middle school who could not write, read, or do math - however who felt good very good about it anyways</p>
<p>The bottom line problem obvious to all, but always avoided by the Left, is that massive illegitimacy tends to exact a very steep price on the educational system - when these kids are dumped into the schools</p>
<p>So if you can figure out a way for each kid to have a committed father and mother actually married to each other - then you will have a good case to dump NCLB, because the such committed parents would work far better than endless testing.</p>
<p>It's funny that you say that. Most of the kids who couldn't read and write were also poor and disenfranchised...which is something still perpetrated by the Right. Don't start.</p>
<p>Against NCLB, and this is a good example off of facebook as to why it does not work.</p>
<p>NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND---The Football Version</p>
<ol>
<li><p>All teams must make the state playoffs and all MUST win the
championship.
If a team does not win the championship, they will be on probation
until they are the champions, and coaches will be held accountable. If
after two years they have not won the championship their footballs and
equipment will be taken away UNTIL they do win the championship.</p></li>
<li><p>All kids will be expected to have the same football skills at the
same time even if they do not have the same conditions or opportunities
to practice on their own. NO exceptions will be made for lack of
interest in football, a desire to perform athletically, or genetic
abilities or
disabilities of themselves or their parents. ALL KIDS WILL PLAY
FOOTBALL AT A PROFICIENT LEVEL!</p></li>
<li><p>Talented players will be asked to workout on their own, without
instruction. This is because the coaches will be using all their
instructional time with the athletes who aren't interested in football,
have limited athletic ability or whose parents don't like football.</p></li>
<li><p>Games will be played year round, but statistics will only be kept in
the 4th, 8th, and 11th game. It will create a New Age of Sports where
every school is expected to have the same level of talent and all teams
will reach the same minimum goals. If no child gets ahead, then no child
gets left behind. If parents do not like this new law, they are
encouraged to vote for vouchers and support private schools that can
screen out the non-athletes and prevent
their children from having to go to school with bad football players.</p></li>
</ol>
<p>Cite: Let's see if I can respond to one of your posts without getting it dumped.... If liberals have had 30 years to destroy education what were the conservatives doing all that time? </p>
<p>Remember you have to PAY an educated work force.</p>
<p>I am against the current form of NCLB as it has many problems the biggest being under to unfunded. It's great to demand all these things but put nothing into paying for these demands. </p>
<p>Also the NCLB concept is based on what GW did in Texas, which for a couple of reasons "looked" successful. First you drive out the underperformers, not in school? you don't count against the numbers...</p>
<p>Then you use the 46th most difficult exam in America to test with.. And "poof" you are brillant!</p>
<p>Our state has the 6th hardest exam in the country. We simply could dramatically improve our scores by adopting the Texas test as ours. </p>
<p>What we've seen here in order to get more time in for the test is art, PE and free sharing time disappear. What's being sacrificed in order to get more time are the things that make grade school memmorable for many. </p>
<p>NCLB could be called the privatization of public schools act. That's it's real goal to take public tax dollars and underwrite private(for profit) school systems.</p>
<p>I dont know how this idea really got attributed to the right. No Child Left Behind had a fairly big Democratic following. The bill's main sponsor in the Senate was only Teddy Kennedy. I think hes a fairly right guy...</p>
<p>Anyway, originally I didnt find it to be a paticularly good idea but something did have to be done. However with Bush's dumbass cuts, its a horrible idea. Unfunded mandates as large as No Child Left Behind should never be implemented for any reason. Its way too unfair for the states...</p>