No help from parents?

<p>You can’t call to get your SSN, you must go into an office. They may give it to you at 17, they may require you to be 18. However, try your school records, your bank account. If you need it to apply for a job, ask your parents for your card.</p>

<p>I would forget about pre-law to be honest. I did some research and it turns out my hunch is correct – pre-law majors and criminal justice majors are actually admitted to law school at a lower rate than the other majors I mentioned earlier. For the LSAT, I definitely recommend focusing on philosophy courses – you can take LSAT prep in any way and making it your major isn’t a particularly good idea.</p>

<p>But I suppose that’s putting the cart before the horse. It sounds like your parents have picked out a life for you in addition to a college. There isn’t too much you can do here to resolve that since you will need at least some form of assistance from them in order to attend any college right now. Not necessarily money, but at the very least their assistance in filling out need-based financial aid forms for most schools.</p>

<p>There are strong Christian colleges that you could attend such as Wheaton, Baylor, or Pepperdine but if your parents have selected a career path for you they might not let you do anything else right now. Are they set specifically on MLC or will they consider helping you attend another Christian religious college?</p>

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<h1>1 There is really not such thing as pre-law and you should not major in anything that is pre-law. You can essentially major in anything that you want and still go to law school (yes there are people who teach a few years and then attend law school). Where ever you go to school, just make sure that you do well</h1>

<h1>2. you will either Prep for the LSAT on your own or you will pay for a course (nothing you “learn” in undergrad will “prep” you for the LSAT).</h1>

<p>Why don’t you do some research on some other colleges that are Christian and come up with some viable alternatives that might please your parents but have more majors to choose from. </p>

<p>Specifically MLC but I think it would be easier to try and placate them with another Christian college than with a public university. I was planning on majoring in History or Philosophy :slight_smile: thank you for the recommendations I had been previously looking at all three! Awesome- the only thing to do is try.</p>

<p>Look into Samford in Alabama.</p>

<p>History and philosophy are both excellent choices. Philosophy in particular is a great way to train your brain for the LSAT which tests a lot of the critical reasoning skills that good philosophy programs try to impart. If your parents are flexible on allowing you to attend any other religious/Christian college it’s probably your best bet. </p>

<p>I still don’t understand. How do your parents expect that private Lutheran school to get paid for? What is their answer to THAT??</p>

<p>Will your parents let you get a job?</p>

<p>I don’t think you have to be 18 to get a new Social Security Card from the SS office. I think you can just go in, show ID and get it. You may have to pay $20 or something. </p>

<p>You can apply to that Lutheran school and fill out FAFSA (if parents will do it THEN), then you can list all your schools and have your FAFSA results sent to all your schools. Your parents wouldn’t even know it. </p>

<p>So, we’re assuming that your parents WILL fill out FAFSA once you apply to that school, right?</p>

<p>However, I think UMIch is a CSS school, and your parents won’t do that. So no way to get aid from UMich. </p>

<p>Ahh…a new card is FREE…and do not send in for it…GO THERE and pick it up, so your parents won’t get it in the mail.</p>

<p><a href=“https://faq.ssa.gov/link/portal/34011/34019/Article/3755/How-do-I-apply-for-a-new-or-replacement-Social-Security-number-card”>https://faq.ssa.gov/link/portal/34011/34019/Article/3755/How-do-I-apply-for-a-new-or-replacement-Social-Security-number-card&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.socialsecurity.gov/forms/ss-5.pdf”>http://www.socialsecurity.gov/forms/ss-5.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Fill out that form, print it out, and take it to the nearest SS office. I suggest going early in the morning, and not on a Friday. They will give you the card right then and there. If they say they are going to mail the card, at least ask for the number and write it down (text it to yourself so you have it.)</p>

<p>Just realized, you’re in school, so you may have no choice but go after school. If so, avoid Mondays and Fridays.</p>

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<p>And remember…those FAFSA only schools do not meet full need. This student is unlikely to get a free need based ride from a FAFSA only school.</p>

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<p>I agree.</p>

<p>I think the thing to do is visit the school WITH the parents and visit the FA office there to get an idea from them the amount of aid that can be expected. Maybe once the parents get hit in the face from the FA office that THEY are not going to give this student much/any money…then the parents will allow the student to apply elsewhere. </p>

<p>The student should run the NPC for that school first, print out the results and bring it with. Then show the FA office and ask if the results are true (not much aid). </p>

<p><a href=“Net Price Calculator”>http://mlc-wels.edu/static/netpricecalc/npcalc.htm&lt;/a&gt;
^^ here is the NPC…use it and show your parents the results. And print it out and take it to the school when you go there with your parents.</p>

<p>BTW…if your parents offer to help pay for THAT school, let them. Get a teaching degree in whatever you want, do well, and apply to law school.</p>

<p>you seem to misunderstand…schools do NOT prepare you for the LSAT. Colleges don’t do that. And there isn’t a “pre-law” major. Any major is “pre law”.</p>

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<p>No, absolutely not. </p>

<p>You can find out info on forums like CC. Go to the pre-law forum here for info. </p>

<p>Actually, some schools do offer a ‘pre-law’ program but in my opinion – and (apparently) the opinion of the ABA and most prestigious law schools – these programs aren’t especially valuable. You can major in anything.</p>

<p>I think the issue that this student is having is that his parents do not want him or her to go to any other school that the one they have selected (the Lutheran synod school). They are willing to pay for that but not for some other school that they disapprove of. That’s why I recommended earlier that, in addition to seriously considering the school that the parents want, that the student also go ahead and research other Christian schools that the parents may be willing to compromise on. The OP suggests that they generally get along so the parents might be willing to be flexible if they feel as if their values are being respected. </p>

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<p>OK…you have to deal with reality first.</p>

<p>You may have a LOT of need…huge need…but if your parents won’t fill out CSS profile, then the school will NOT know that you have need…and you won’t get aid. Your parents will NOT fill out CSS Profile because that Lutheran school doesn’t require it. </p>

<p>Williams and others will NOT process your aid based only on FAFSA. They will not.</p>

<p>Until you get your parents on board with applying for aid at YOUR schools, then your lists are a total waste of time. </p>

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You need to know your social security number in order to apply for a replacement card. I thought the whole problem was that the OP didn’t know her SS number.</p>

<p>Albion, Hope, Spring Arbor, Olivet… all conservative small colleges in Michigan. I think you need to stop talking about law school with your parents. It feels like your biggest conflict with them is over your career. Not sure how to solve that, although if you can get to a college that offers other majors you might prefer and a degree of reasonable quality, you may be able to get to law school eventually.</p>

<p>Go to your HS guidance office tomorrow. Tell them you need your SS number to complete applications, and you don’t remember it. It should be on your school records. Our district requires it for school registration.</p>

<p>ETA…having your SS number is not going to resolve the other issues regarding college payments, financial aid applications, and your parents.</p>

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<p>Having the SS number is a start but as thumper1 points out there are still other, much larger problems that have to be resolved. The fact that the OP has to work so hard to get the SS number is actually indicative of the larger problem.</p>

<p>Yes, I know that. I phrased it wrong, sorry. I just wanted to point out that the advice given to the OP about replacing her SS card wasn’t really helpful since she didn’t know her number. There are bigger problems with her parents that will have to be addressed first.</p>

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<p>While I agree that it is one big obstacle, and at this point, there is no need to be arguing that point, this student needs a strategy.</p>

<p>I think the student needs to “play along” with the parents in regards to “their choice” of school. So, after doing the NPC on the computer, and printing out the results, take the results AND the parents on a campus tour. Include a visit to the FA office and show them the results. Ask the FA office if these results are likely close to what can be expected. If they try to give you a song and dance, politely demand to speak to the FA director because you really need to know how accurate the results are. </p>

<p>Perhaps your parents are horribly naive about how much YOU can borrow (or should borrow). You can only borrow $5500. Yes, your parents could co-sign for more, but no future teacher can afford to borrow more. And, I doubt your parents would co-sign for loans anyway…and may not even qualify with their income. </p>

<p>I suspect that your parents are either naive about how much aid you would get from that school or they are naive about how much you can borrow. If so, then you’re never going to make headway with them until someone else (the FA officer) tells them what the truths are. Only then would they likely be open to letting you go elsewhere. </p>

<p>Do you qualify for the Kalamazoo Promise scholarship? That might be a significant help for your parents.</p>

<p><a href=“Kalamazoo Promise - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalamazoo_Promise&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;