<p>a lot of schools starting next year will no longer require the SAT I exam for admissions. here is the link to NYU's newspaper as of the end of april 2009,</p>
<p>Washington</a> Square News - SAT I no longer required for NYU applicants</p>
<p>a lot of schools are now focusing and encouraging students who have a strong SAT II but weak SAT I score to apply to more competitive schools.</p>
<p>i love to hear this news =D
but do you know which schools are doing this?
so far i only know Bates, Bard, Conncoll, & Hamilton
NYU adopts that policy is a pretty cool news</p>
<p>It seems like a lot of the ivy leagues are considering this option, i’ll try to keep this subject up to date. </p>
<p>SAT were originally implemented to give admission officers a good idea on how well a candiidate will do in college. However, a lot of protests came about this idea because many minorities were being discouraged due to their low test scores. </p>
<p>Im sure those who do well in high school will love this new policy. On the other hand, many underachievers who depend on their test taking ability and natural talent might not like this idea as much.</p>
<p>ok… this is kinda unfair.
i go to a high school that has extremely rigorous grading and so, my grades are not as high as someone who goes to an “easier” school. however, i can prove that i am smart by doing very well on my sat… and now how am i supposed to prove that?
yes standardized tests are not the perfect measurement of one’s academic ability, nowhere near perfect. but it does provide a form of “standardization” to everyone’s academic ability. grades are highly dependent on the type of school, teacher, etc. how is a college supposed to know that a B in my school is actually equivalent to an A in most other schools now?</p>
<p>UGH. but at least, i don’t think a huge number of schools will accept this new policy for class of 2010. maybe later</p>
<p>xiaohyolee, you still need to take the SAT II. it says that schools such as NYU will replace the SAT with 3 non-foreign language SAT II. So in fact, you can prove yourself even more strongly by doing well in subjects that you are good in. Also college admissions consider the quality of your high school and also the courses you take. I am sure one of your concerns is, they go to an easier school and get a better grade, but the thing is, all college admissions officers take the school/courses into account. someone from a difficult school will draw more attention then someone from a standard school.</p>
<p>Yea but those that do will have an advantage over those that don’t send their scores now.</p>
<p>Hmm can the 3 SAT II/3 AP requirement be split between APs and SAT IIs?</p>
<p>AP exams and SAT II are completely different. AP exams are college credit courses which you take in high school that increases your chances of getting into a higher tier college. SAT II test your ability in a specific subject that weigh heavily in college admissions. From what I know, you can’t take 2 SAT II and 1 AP. As of this momment, you are required to take at least 3 AP and at least 3 non-foreign language SAT II</p>
<p>damn. all that studying down the drain 
oh well…in all likelihood this change wont really be seriously implemented for a few years, imo. ppl have been ranting against the SAT for YEARS but there’s too much profit/weight on it for it to just suddenly disappear</p>
<p>well, one of the main reasons i made this thread is to let applicants know about NYU’s new policy since about 30-40k applicants apply every year.</p>
<p>Required or not, the alternatives aren’t exactly a breeze. Chances are, the same people who wouldn’t send their SAT scores due to poor scores aren’t people enrolled in AP classes or people who would be prepared for SATIIs to the extent that the combined score of 3 of those SATIIs are higher than the SAT combined score.</p>
<p>Either way, the judging criteria isn’t going to be more lax. People who have high SAT scores, multiple SATIIs and APs will still apply to these schools and those people are the ones who will get in.</p>
<p>thats definitely true. I think even without the requirement of the SAT I, college admission for top tier schools will be difficult. However, not requiring the SAT I will allow students who are not proficient in Grammar or Critical Reading to apply using the math and science SAT II exams.</p>
<p>that is true, but this is pretty cool that u only have to take SAT IIs for i plan on going to college that is an ivyleague but it will be in the class of 2016, so i still have a 3 yrs until i go to college</p>
<p>Well, the Ivys will probably never stop using the SATs. It’s one thing that separates candidates for them.</p>
<p>Also NYU…is kinda blah. Unless you get in with a full ride, I don’t think it’s worth going to. It’s the same tuition for an Ivy league - without the same rigor in education. And I hate the location…it’s all buildings. However, I do like how their bathrooms have a panic button. :P</p>
<p>I think it all depends on what you want in a college. There are a lot of good test optional schools out there.</p>
<p>I think this is only important/newsworthy because NYU is one of the better schools which are now making the SAT optional. Also, NYU’s location gives it an immense edge in academic related activities outside of school. You’re in NYC, you want an internship? You definitely can find one. Research? Same thing. NYC gives NYU a nice edge over schools with similar or even slightly better rankings.</p>
<p>I agree with Lucifuger. It’s all about location. If NYU wasn’t in NYC, it wouldn’t stand a chance in the world of higher academia.</p>
<p>Many students who attend NYU undergraduate do not go for the education but for the Networking. Academically, NYU isn’t top tier unless you are in Stern. Of course there are faculty members who are extremely intelligent but on average, the education you receive at NYU will most likely be bellow the Ivy League Schools. However, NYU does excel in location and connections. You can study business as much as you want but without access to real internships and jobs, your education has no value, especially in our current economy.</p>
<p>Ivy league schools wont drop SAT…, but might after 20 years or so</p>
<p>it is a great news but guess what
since NYU has so many applicants each year
people who took sat will have some advtange.
the score can show you how prepare you are
NYU can say whatever to the public
but when the comittee is doing the review
Student A: SAT 1 (2020) with 99GPA, 2 AP socres of 5 with tonks of extra
Student B: No SAT with 99 GPA and everything the same as student A
they will pick Student A first</p>
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<p>With housing and all other extraneous costs factored in, unfortunately, most colleges are the same.</p>
<p>Considering that HYP are needs-blind, which is awesome, I would actually consider arguing that most colleges end up being the same. Period. (Granted, schools like NYU are the most expensive, but who knows, maybe they cover up some extraneous costs that other colleges don’t in their tuition?)</p>