Northerners At Southern Schools

<p>"I would go for more diversity, but to each their own."</p>

<p>That's why I'm looking more to Rice and Emory; big cities tend to curb racism. Also being higher-rated as a university tends to do good things for diversity.</p>

<p>Don't worry about racism. The only thing about southern schools is that people down aren't as guarded, politically correct and tight-assed as is normal up north. It's a lot like the north in most ways except with more guns, higher concentrations of hardcore, conservative REPUBLICAN BUSH voters and evangelicals, less popped collars, more regard for local history, better high school sports, and less competitiveness. Also emory isn't a true southern school, culturally speaking. Neither is Duke, Elon, Davidson or Richmond. A real southern school is like UVA, Tulane, Sewanee, or W&Lee.</p>

<p>NStarun, although I admit that I experienced some culture shock (even though I am white) from visiting W&L having grown up in NYC where I take the subway to school and every ethnic group is represented. I've been a minority since I came to America as my elementary school was majority Asian/Hispanic as was my Junior High School and my High School is majority Asian.</p>

<p>That said, I saw no evidence of racism or people even noticing race. There may not be enough diversity, but there was no racism.</p>

<p>If you are a minority guy, good luck with Southern Women. You'll find a lot more love in the North. Just my experience.</p>

<p>Thekev is right in his description. I'm a lifetime South Carolinian so I know about this lol.<br>
True about the minority guys with southern women. I'm a white guy and I'm not making excuses, but white southern women are just not much into minorities on the whole.</p>

<p>I didn't mean to make it sound like the racism you hear about in the history books where all sorts of terrible stuff is happening. I'm glad you didn't notice anything on the visit. In my experience, most of it was pretty subtle. However, it was hard to ignore when it became visible and was a big reason I only spent one year at that school.</p>

<p>Anyhow, different campus + different area = different atmosphere. Don't let that comment hang around in your head too much, it was just what I ran into in central Maryland.</p>

<p>New Yorker at Vandy .......and i LOVE it!!</p>

<p>NStarun, if you don't mind, could you cite an example of the subtle racism. It's not that I don't believe you, I'm just curious.</p>

<p>Racism in the South? Oh, it's here. And it's subtle. People generally appear correct on the outside, but there is a worm in their core. (of course, not all people - only some)For example, my black friend and I(chicano) were at a chili cook-off with a white buddy and he invited us to sit with his family under the shade of their tent. His dad acted friendly towards us. I saw nothing amiss. After two or three minutes, he pulled aside his son and spoke quietly for a minute or two. My friend came back and cheerily asked us if we wanted to go walk around. I'm too nice to confront him about it, but my friend is outspoken and as soon as we were out of earshot she demanded to know what was going on. He said meekly that his dad didnt really want us there because she was black and i was "well, you know, what you are." Another example, another black friend was sitting at a table with some friends. No clue why he said it, but a white guy sitting at the table suddenly said, I hate niggers. Plain, simple, and vicious. None of the other people at the table said anything. My friend waited a few seconds, then silently got up and left. The boy was subsequently suspended. These incidents happened in high school, btw.</p>

<p>I hate to add to the fire but my brother was at UNC and he met this girl and she asked what he was. He said Indian (he is totally a chicago kid, played sports, etc), and her response was "eww". SO messed up. That would NEVER EVER happen in the Northeast.</p>

<p>The South isn't "racist" like old times but in my opinion its still pretty backward.</p>

<p>I grew up in NY, college in NY, grad school in Fla, currently live in Atlanta and have a s. at Rice. Emory and Rice, being in cosmopolitan areas, are quite different in feel than a traditional southern school in a college town (exception- U of Fla-- Gainesville is a college town but UF isn't "southern"). You might want to go to the Rice threads and chat with Jenskate,who is from NY. Rice is pretty laid back, and feels more like a "northern" school. The current college president is the past president of Columbia Law school, so there is another "northern" influence. YOu will feel perfectly at home at either school,and you will undoubtedly enjoy both. What are you looking for in a school?</p>

<p>"That would NEVER EVER happen in the Northeast."</p>

<p>Nor in the Midwest, West Coast, Pacific Northwest or Southwest, generally</p>

<p>Now that is some interesting stuff. Is it lilke that in the city too? Atlanta, Houston, New Orleans?</p>

<p>I mean yall think that that is backward thinking, but you have to realize that that is what is engrained in my and my peers heads. I mean we are just not open to outsiders. We are friendly to strangers, but there are just some things that some people aren't comfortable with. For the most part there is no hate involved, it is just a discomfort. Don't be scared off from the south just because of those anecdotal stories though.</p>

<p>Jedipsohn is right, this won't happen in places like Atlanta or New Orleans at all. Its mostly people from the rural south who think like that. So at a place like Emory, for example, it would never happen. Emory is a cosmopolitan campus in a cosmopolitan city.</p>

<p>"Don't be scared off from the south just because of those anecdotal stories though."</p>

<p>How can you not be? "We are just not open to outsiders." How could that not be a big negative? Sure it's not hate, but it sure as heck makes you wanna be elsewhere. Friendliness is just the basics, and if people simply can't accept others because of the way they look, then hey, that's not a place I want to be.</p>

<p>The reason my brother encountered that is he said the girl was from rural NC. Luckily it was an exception to the rule, but still I know diversity is a value much more appreciated in other parts of the country.</p>

<p>In all fairness, people from rural parts of virtually any state, northern or southern, have the potential to be, shall we say, less sophisticated?</p>

<p>Right, those from rural parts are just not really in the 21st century exactly all the way.
Slipper, you are wrong about Emory. My dad went there and my Latin teacher went there and there is some serious PC patrolling down there. I mean you can't even think anything non politically correct without the rath of Emory.</p>

<p>BCgousc-
How is Slipper wrong? Are you saying that Emory isn't metropolitan/cosmpolitan? It is. Emory is pretty "liberal" and diversity is embraced. Maybe things have changed since your dad and Latin teacher attended. I'd say what is PC at Emory is to be open-minded.</p>

<p>im from white rich suburbs in mn and want to go to tulane (as of right now at least)</p>

<p>will i be under huge culture shock?</p>