<p>I thought it was a compliment too. A top private school with Big Ten spirit, what more can you ask for?</p>
<p>Northwestern gets my vote.</p>
<p>ramses 2:
Now I'll demand it: stop. You are acting very rude--for no reason. I did nothing to you.</p>
<p>For what it's worth, (since you're going 'haughty' on me:) I'm from Boston and went to Groton. (Your words about the "prep set" seem silly, in light of it.) Also, I hold an M.A. from another top ten U.S. school--your comments about logical arguments seem even more silly.</p>
<p>From your previous posts, it seems that you're an old British woman whose son likes--and hopes to get into--the University of Chicago. You're picking fights with a 25 year old--who operates with "dummie techniques," no less!</p>
<p>So enough--I've already reported your comments.</p>
<p>Also, since you're going THERE too: my comment in the other thread was a joke.</p>
<p>A joke a la: "where fun goes to die."</p>
<p>epidemic,</p>
<p>Your little "two cents" are completely biased.</p>
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<li><p>if anything, it's the UChicago students that have the superiority complex. Anyone who has gone to their board would know why.</p></li>
<li><p>NU's architecture isn't as nice as UChicago to most people. But its campus is picturesque as it has a lagoon and sits on the lakefront of the Lake Michigan. This is what makes NU's campus rather unique. </p></li>
<li><p>"Heavy" in Greek? The Greek scene is active but not overbearing. I didn't feel pressure to join at all. Last I check, the majority of students aren't greek. </p></li>
<li><p>My guess is most people think Evanston is nicer and safer than Hyde Park.</p></li>
<li><p>UChicago's students are more diverse? I wonder what made you say that. NU has various types of students in 6 different schools. On the other hand, UChicago undergrads are all studying liberal arts. Not that it necessarily concludes anything; but I just don't think your assessment has any beef.</p></li>
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<p>Northwestern does have a very unusual campus, as it does have a really interesting set of fantastic programs (going to school with tomorrow's journalists, musicians, and engineers is pretty cool, I agree-- there's a reason Northwestern was my second choice!) And the frat life has always struck me as the take-it-or-leave-it variety.... it's good to know that it's there if you want it and it's there for parties and such but if you're not into it, it's not going to bother you.</p>
<p>(I would characterize Chicago's frat system in the same way-- about 10% of our student body joins a frat, and those that join love it, those that don't love the parties, and those that don't care don't even know that the beautiful stone building connected to the bookstore is Alpha Delta Pi).</p>
<p>However, I did hear this bit of disturbing news, reminding me that college campuses in general are not safe places, and beautiful, wealthy Evanston is not exempt:</p>
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Do a search for a thread about 5 months ago on this same topic. I got blasted for supposedly insulting Northwestern. Both schools have a lot to offer and are very different from each other. My vote goes to Chicago, though. I went to a Big Ten school undergrad and Chicago for law school. If Chicago appeals to you, go for it.
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<p>C'mon now, MomOWC - let's not try to play all "innocent". You made some pretty spurious claims about NU where a no. of posters, who have no connection to either school, took the time to call you on it.</p>
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NUGrad- I think it's funny that you keep getting so offended by my "Big Ten" school characterization.
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<p>The way you had previously phrased it wasn't exactly positive - btw, was UoC an inferior school when it was a member of the B10?</p>
<p>If anything, UoC is probably less well-regarded now than when it was a member back then.</p>
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ramses is dead-on in his assessment of the mid-Atlantic perception of the two schools. Northwestern isn't considered worth the money by most of the "prep" set- there are exceptions, of course. Why not just go to Brown and stay in the civilized part of the country?
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<p>Wow - so one person's opinion becomes "authority" - and btw, I seem to recall that you were talking about "reputation" in business/law circles and not that of the "prep" set.</p>
<p>In that other thread MOWC did nothing more than say both schools were fantastic but that in her experience Chicago was more prestigious. Hardly spurious, and hardly laughable.</p>
<p>And K&S I wasn't trying to be the voice of authority...if you'll read my post again you'll see I was trying to make a point to JuJu regarding kneejerk 'authoritarian' statements. While it is in fact true that Chicago has more respect academically in this region, it doesn't(and I'm not arguing it does) make it true.</p>
<p>But Chicago has always held a certain reputation for intellectual weight...long before the USNews rankings. It's the place where the whole idea of the great books started. It was always about the life of the mind and less about what people thought of it. It's why you'll find an amazing amount of women and people of color amongst it's illustrious alumni.</p>
<p>These just aren't economists. These are people across every intellectual pursuit. They are college and university presidents.(Northwestern's included) They are writers, politicians, business people, comics and more importantly, they are all uniquely themselves. Not a 'nerd' amongst them. Thinkers yes, but unhappy bores?(Well, maybe Ashcroft:))</p>
<p>"However, I did hear this bit of disturbing news, reminding me that college campuses in general are not safe places, and beautiful, wealthy Evanston is not exempt"</p>
<p>-First, many parts of Evanston are NOT wealthy- in fact they are quite poor. Second, that incident happened nearly a mile off campus and at 11:30 at night. The world is a dangerous place, and this was a freak incident; it has nothing to do with college campuses.</p>
<p>ramses - PLEASE!!!</p>
<p>So claims like this aren't spurious? (The fact that you are defending MomOWC so ardently calls your own objectivity into question.)</p>
<p>MomOWC -
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Chicago gets you in the same doors as does HYP. Northwestern gets you in the same doors as Michigan and UCLA.
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<p>Yes, UoC has more of an academic bent and among academic circles is regarded more highly, but so does Columbia and it's not like the general public views Columbia that much different from Dartmouth or Stanford.</p>
<p>University of Chicago.</p>
<p>K&S, seriously, spurious? Is Fiske's being spurious when it lists the big weights as overlaps for Chicago and the big preprofessionals for NU? I can tell you honestly that again, here in the midatlantic(and I'd bet the Northeast) Northwestern is considered a 'name' school in the same league as Michigan and UCLA. And suprise, no one is running the school down! People think you're going to a great school. They are impressed. They do not however think you're going to a school on the same level as HPY. HPY=academic elite. Eggheads if you will. Chicago does have that reputation.</p>
<p>“Chicago wins hands down up in these parts for prestige”</p>
<p>-That’s nonsense, I’ve never met (an unbiased individual) in the area who has thought Chicago to be hands down more prestigious than Northwestern. </p>
<p>“Northwestern is known but just wouldn't be any place than mom and dad prepster would send their child.”</p>
<p>-That’s more nonsense. 15% of the school comes directly from the Mid Atlantic, and many of those people come from prep schools. </p>
<p>“lots of parents clinging to USNews rankings”</p>
<p>-Northwestern has been ranked HIGHER than Chicago for several years, so I don’t know what you’re talking about. </p>
<p>“People are very impressed...and yes, here in mainline PA, Chicago is the intellectual equal of the ivies but 'different'. Different as in slightly suspect, a little too smart for your own good. Stanford falls into this category as well. But no, sorry not Northwestern.”</p>
<p>-Chicago is the intellectual equal to the ivies but not Northwestern, eh? Again, I’ve neither seen nor heard this; it seems to be you making up things to try to bolster your own opinions.</p>
<p>“I can tell you honestly that again, here in the midatlantic(and I'd bet the Northeast) Northwestern is considered a 'name' school in the same league as Michigan and UCLA.”</p>
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<li>Look, just because you live in the Northeast doesn’t mean you speak for the entire area. You may believe that Northwestern is just considered a “name” school, but there are many in the area who don’t.</li>
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<p>I always thought that chicago students idealize their academics because something has to keep them happy in that horrible social environment.</p>
<p>Chicago does worse with consulting recruiters and equally with banks, Chicago does worse at every grad school metric I've seen, every revealed preference stat points to Northwestern, and Northwestern is more fun.</p>
<p>I don't believe I ever claimed I spoke for the whole area. I think you're so bothered by any comparison to Chicago that you're spoiling for a fight and reading into words what you want to read into them, you're parsing out quotes so you can thump your breast. I think I have said repeatedly that both schools have a great reputation but that in my experience Chicago's name carries more prestige. I have also said repeatedly that this may not be deserved. How that can enrage you is anyone's guess.</p>
<p>I have two children who for years went to private school. Friends and neighbors have children at private schools. Episcopal, Hill, Tower Hill, St. Andrews, Haverford, Westown and Malvern. The prep set. So yeah, lots and lots of chats at social events regarding college. Like I said earlier, everyone I know seems set on the northeast LACs, Swarthmore or Haverford. Everyone seems resigned to no Ivies with a lot of bluster regarding jocks. And yes, sorry to inform you but Chicago is met with a certain awe and respect when it's brought up in discussion. It's on these kids list. Maybe not #1, maybe not seriously in contention...but Chicago is considered a serious school.</p>
<p>Northwestern is simply never brought up. Why? Because it isn't on anyone's radar. For people whose greatest wish for their children is a replica of their boarding school there is no way they would expand their search to Northwestern. It matches none of their criterion.</p>
<p>Slipper, if I'm not mistaken, you're out of school. Done with the process. Too young to have kids involved in the process. So care to discuss why someone young enough to be out having fun is spending soooo much time on CC haunting any thread ready at a moments notice to tell people that Chicago is miserable and filled with students who must be delusional in their happiness with their school? You couldn't get into Chicago could you?:)</p>
<p>if im not mistaken, slipper attended Dartmouth and Columbia, so I am pretty sure he could get into Chicago (and I am on Chicago's side in this debate)</p>
<p>I don't know, I'm having a hard time imagining Slipper's essay.</p>
<p>Seriously though, I wonder if Slipper would be annoyed greatly if someone on the board made a point of visiting every Dartmouth thread and with a wink and a nod asked why anyone would take the Animal House drunks seriously? I'm guessing that Slipper would be mightily cheesed.</p>