NOrthwestern or Emory?

<p>S got into Northwestern and Emory. He's interested in campus life, benefits of nearby big city, poli sci and history, overall academic excellence. Where would you go?</p>

<p>I was in the exact same situation- I picked NU. Strictly speaking Emory might be stronger for Poli Sci. (might). However, for overall academic rigor and the quality of the student body as a whole, NU should be far superior. The weather was a big factor to consider for me though. I hope it doesn't prove a bad choice :P</p>

<p>If weather was a big factor why did you go to NU?</p>

<p>Because I decided everything else outweighed the weather difference :P</p>

<p>agree with that.</p>

<p>us news graduate ranking:
poli sci: nu 21st, emory 29th
history: nu 17th, emory 29th</p>

<p>These are just graduate rankings (largely just reputation of faculty) and are pretty rough estimate of the quality of undergrad program. I'd guess they are about the same in both fields. Very few people would have intimate knowledge on how the quality of their undergrad education compares in those fields and both are similarly private research U. </p>

<p>However, NU is superior in overall academic reputation and number of other top-notch/renowned programs.</p>

<p>hey sam lee, could you tell me rankings for poly sci in northwestern versus like UChicago, UMich and UNC (those are the schools i am in between)</p>

<p>"If weather was a big factor why did you go to NU?"</p>

<p>Some people can't stand hot, humid weather.</p>

<p>While NU generally has more prestige and is better known nationally than Emory - at this level, what's more important is how well the school/locale is a fit for you.</p>

<p>Btw, NU has some great history professors.</p>

<p>Just to weigh in on the weather, "climate" was one of my criteria and I ditched it after considering all of the other benefits of NU. Got some cozy winter boots to get my winter prep started. I'm sure it will be horrible but we'll all be in it together and I'm also sure the benefits will outweigh the winter term's discomfort.</p>

<p>I am in a similar situation. But i want to do premed. I'm visiting both schools soon. Right now i am leaning towards emory b/c of the weather, campus, and premed is not as cutthroat.</p>

<p>i don't look upon you for choosing Emory. Just take this into consideration. Probably over 80 percent of the kids at Northwestern are kids that could have gotten into Emory. Probably, about only 20 percent of the kids at Emory are kids that could have gotten into Northwestern.</p>

<p>Collegeboard:</p>

<p>Emory: 1270-1430 SAT</p>

<p>Northwestern: 1320-1500</p>

<p>you figure out, which is a better place....</p>

<p>AliR,</p>

<p>Emory's placement is rather mediocre though. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.career.emory.edu/images/PDF%20Forms/PreMed_Synopsis_2004.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.career.emory.edu/images/PDF%20Forms/PreMed_Synopsis_2004.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>That said, if you like Emory and think you'd be happier there, go there.</p>

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Probably, about only 20 percent of the kids at Emory are kids that could have gotten into Northwestern.

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<p>Feel free to try and support this claim with substantial evidence. The fact is that it can't be done because this claim is simply not true. First of all, the numbers that college board reports for Emory were skewed this past year because they averaged Emory's SAT range with Oxford's SAT range. Oxford is a two-year college from which students can automatically transfer into Emory after their sophomore year.</p>

<p>Emory's REAL SAT range: 1300-1470
<a href="http://www.emory.edu/ADMISSIONS/about/class-profile.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.emory.edu/ADMISSIONS/about/class-profile.htm&lt;/a>
Northwestern's REAL SAT range: 1320-1500</p>

<p>I will not argue the point that Northwestern has better credentialed students in general, but I do think that your statement "Probably 20% of the students at Emory would have gotten accepted at Northwestern" is a gross underestimation. Common sense just tells one that this is too low. Consider that about 10% of the class is composed of Emory Scholar's -- students who have full-rides or near-full rides and typically have the credentials as of that of students who choose Harvard, Yale, etc. I warrant that nearly every Scholar would get into Northwestern. For the other 90% of the student body, I'm pretty sure that more than 1/9 would get into Northwestern. Again this just seems like common sense. The statistics between the two colleges are nearly the same. They attract many of the same students. And anecdotally on CC you'll see that many students who choose Emory got into Northwestern.</p>

<p>not to burst your bubble, but Emory's own common data set this year shows their SAT range to be exactly what CC posted. And Emory's common data set (look closely), does not have figures for Oxford. It even lists the number of entering freshman at Emory, not more, not less. If its numbers accounted for those at Oxford, then you would see a higher enrollment figure. Sorry.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.emory.edu/PROVOST/IPR/CDS2006_2007.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.emory.edu/PROVOST/IPR/CDS2006_2007.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>to be honest with you Blaze...I did some research, comparing Emory's common data set from 2005-2006 and 2006-2007. Something seems strange. Emory's percentages of students, scoring above 700 on math and verbal have been consistent in the last 2 years. This leads me to believe that the drop in the SAT range all of a sudden suggests that perhaps Emory was reporting "admitted students" range for all of these years. It makes more sense to me now.</p>

<p>NUGrad5555,</p>

<p>Thank you for bringing Emory's common data sets to my attention. Yes, the discrepancy between 05-06 and 06-07 does seem strange. I find it hard believe that Emory could get away with reporting the SAT range for admitted students when section C9 explicitly asks for that of enrolled students. Comparing C9 between the two years, it comes to my attention that C9 is phrased slightly different between the two years. For 06-07, it says everything as the year before but adds, "Do not convert SAT to ACT scores and vice versa." If Emory did convert in years prior to make its scores look better than they were, then this would be a strong explanation for the discrepancy between the years. This explanation would account for the fact that the students scoring in the SAT ranges 600-700, 700-800, etc have remained consistent between 05-06 and 06-07 -- there is no way to convert for that question!</p>

<p>It's all very strange, which is not the way it should be. It saddens me that there is not more transparency on the part of Emory. Not only in regard to the Common Data Set, but also its admissions website is very deceiving if it turns out that the SAT range in the CDS is the one for enrolled students JUST at Emory College (which I still question because in section B1 the undergraduate enrollment given is that of both Emory and Oxford). Furthermore, I was not able to find the CDS for Northwestern for 06-07.. so I can not speculate about whether Northwestern may have done the same conversion in years prior as well.</p>

<p>So, I am very uncertain, but I now know that I should have done more research before posting. In any case -- though -- I still stand by my opinion that more than 20% of the students at Emory could get into Northwestern.</p>

<p>We have a clash of school spirit and loyalty amongst NU and Emory, it seems.</p>

<p>They are both great schools with great qualities of their own.</p>

<p>Blaze991 and NUGrad,</p>

<p>Now that I see the common set data, I guess Emory's med school placement isn't all that shocking after all. </p>

<p>Apparently, Emory made an error of entering "admitted" stats for 25th and 75th percentile for 2005-06. Why? Just look at the ACT range; there's almost no way the 25th percentile is 29 when 51% of students scored between 24-29. The 2006-07 data looks about just right. The 25th-percentile should be 27.</p>

<p>Interestingly, NU does have the 25th percentile ACT score as 29.
<a href="http://ugadm.northwestern.edu/commondata/2005-06/c.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://ugadm.northwestern.edu/commondata/2005-06/c.htm&lt;/a> shows that only 27% of the students scored between 24-29. Now that's more consistent. </p>

<p>Before I saw this, I was surprised by how Emory's medical placement rate was significantly below its peers because I have always thought Emory's average test scores are roughly the same as NU, JHU, or CMU's. But that's not the case; the difference is noticeable, though not huge.</p>

<p>I had to decide between Emory and Northwestern last March, and I chose NU for a multitude of reasons.
First, Emory has no town. The "town" of Emory is a small drag that has a CVS, two restaurants, and a Starbucks. The town of Evanston is huge (4 blocks by 5 blocks) and littered with restaurants, stores, and places to hang out.
Second, Emory doesn't seem to have the big name recognition that NU does. Just compare speakers that have come to speak at Emory to those that come to speak at NU. It's not close (in Northwestern's favor, of course).
Third, Chicago is better than Atlanta.j
Fourth, both campuses are nice, but I found teh lake to be absolutely gorgeous.
Fifth, NU has a big 10 athletic program with multiple nationally ranked teams, so there is a bigger sense of school spirit. Walk onto NU's campus and many kids are wearing NU apparel. At emory, the same just isn't true.
Sixth, and most importantly, NU is a better school. It has higher credentialed students who achieved more in their high school years. People pass on Ivies to go to NU. People don't pass on Ivies to go to Emory (unless they really, really love Atlanta and its weather). I needed to know that my roommate, classmates, and friends during my college years worked as hard as I did and are as gifted as I am. So far, I haven't been disappointed.</p>

<p>"I needed to know that my roommate, classmates, and friends during my college years worked as hard as I did and are as gifted as I am."</p>

<p>Man I was right with you all the way until you got to the "gifted as I am" part. Can you just leave it at "hardworking?" No offense but come on.</p>