<p>Warbler-
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<p>Are you making fun of my Moorish skin color? This is totally uncalled for.
Be ready- you will be drawn, hanged and quartered.</p>
<p>I will come for you!!!</p>
<p>just to chime in</p>
<p>i had the opportunity to attend Chicago as a freshman and as a transfer, unfortunately, and i gravely repeat unfortunately, i didnt attend</p>
<p>i transferred from Cornell to Northwestern, which may have been THE WORST DECISION IN MY LIFE...I SEVERELY REGRET IT....And to just chime in, all of these ppl saying that Northwestern is so much fun compared to chicago, all i have to say is complete nonsense. So many of the students that I have run into at Northwestern are seriously discontent with their college experience and the tuition they are forking over to come here. I have heard from a number of students here, that they would ahve gone elsewhere if they had the opportunity to do it over again. I am like 90+ percent sure I am going back to Cornell in the spring. Peace!!! And to that dude, w. the Eljdh, or w.e. he is called, you are making a complete fool of yourself on these boards with your comments. Please refrain from making anymore comments that make you look ignorant and make a bad reflection on Northwestern. i don't know who you are or what your deal is, but you are making yourself look ignorant when you mock other comparable schools. As a NU student who was admitted to Chicago 2 times in a row, I will admit now that chicago is probably a better school.</p>
<p>Peace!!!</p>
<p>At least, this NW student is courageous enough to admit it.</p>
<p>Good luck!!!</p>
<p>I don't understand it bball...I mean simbajune. </p>
<p>Why didn't you just go to Rice? I have a friend there who is VERY HAPPY with his cheaper tuition and the school overall.</p>
<p>i think it was the chicago crowd, not me, who was mocking other schools, if you read my posts about checking both of them out.</p>
<p>The only thing i'm mocking is the 40 year-old woman who is telling teenagers to "get their heads out of their a$$es" then telling them to grow up, too funny</p>
<p>Look at bball's (simbajune) post's: perfect fit for chicago. I think the Chicago fans are a different breed. But thinking Chicago is superior Northwestern is a fallacy.</p>
<p>I generally have to agree with the comments thus far (the ones I could find through the arguing...). </p>
<p>But, whatever the case, I do think Chicago is harder on their students. I have pulled two all-nighters this week alone, and I have never heard any of my friends who attend Northwestern complain about the workload. It just seems like very time I finally finish the reading and homework, more is thrown onto me. The cycle is unending. But, that's not to say that I don't like the work; quite the contrary. It's just that I think one has to do a lot more at Chicago to succeed.</p>
<p>elsi- let it go. You are embarrassing yourself. Your first post to ME in response to my opinion (I did not direct any posts at you up to that point) was
"that's the most unsubstantiated and ridiculous thing i've ever heard. Don't post nonsense on these boards, people who don't know any better might actually believe you."</p>
<p>I doubt I'm the first adult to tell you to get your head out of your a$$. Get used to it.
Thank you for the compliment. I'm quite a bit over 40.
Now just let it go. I'm finished arguing with you and I'm sorry you are insecure about your transfer decision. You'll be fine if you learn to keep your mouth shut.</p>
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I do think Chicago is harder on their students. I have pulled two all-nighters this week alone, and I have never heard any of my friends who attend Northwestern complain about the workload. It just seems like very time I finally finish the reading and homework, more is thrown onto me. The cycle is unending. But, that's not to say that I don't like the work; quite the contrary. It's just that I think one has to do a lot more at Chicago to succeed.
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<p>Of course of course. Thats one reason why Chicago being such a great school and its graduates looked upon with such awe by many. I am a strong proponent of tough academics and a strong believer in core curriculum as well. I like schools with high academic standards while I do realize many would disagree with me.</p>
<p>Chicago, Caltech, MIT, Cornell, Columbia, Berkeley & Princeton . tough academics, highly prestigious, hard-working student body .. *ALL WORLD CLASS UNIVERSITIES (WCU) * !!!</p>
<p>"...and I have never heard any of my friends who attend Northwestern complain about the workload."</p>
<p>My daughter has friends at Northwestern who do complain about the workload. They also complain about overly-competitive colleagues, in the not-very-nice-to-be-around sort of way. But that's just a few selected experiences; not pretending that's representative necessarily.</p>
<p>"By the way, some "real life" people like monydad and wesdad seem to disagree with you also."</p>
<p>In my case this was just my opinion as a casual observer, not terribly informed or advantaged by "real life". Other than I can say Northwestern B school grads get decent access these days, moreso than previously.</p>
<p>AS for "real life" experience, some of the smartest, most capable and most succsessful people I've encountered out in the world have been graduates of the University of Chicago; undergrad, Bschool or law school. They clearly are/were doing something right. If I were applying to schools, I might want to go there myself.</p>
<p>All the UChicago supporters here are themselves arguments against the university: they are completely ignorant morons. And if you go to UChicago, you may become just as dumb as they are.</p>
<p>They write such proposterous statements such as "the workload isn't hard anywhere but UChicago" HAHAHAHAHAHAH</p>
<p>I repeat: AHAHAHAHAHAAHHA</p>
<p>Please, I would LOVE for you to show me ANY COURSE at UChicago, and PLEASE, BY ALL MEANS, show me the syllabus. Yes, the work is hard at all the top schools you moron; it also depends on what teachers and classes you get. Do you think when they are interviewing professors at UChicago, they ask, "Are you going to make life for your students a living hell?" LOL</p>
<p>Btw, at Rice there are professors here from Stanford and I have one professor who used to teach at UChicago as well. There is no noticeable difference; I mean a lot of these professors have taught at multiple schools you can't define them; I mean I guess you can even call everyone here a "Rice professor" now. And the professors have considerable authority in determining the layout and workload of the course. So telling me the UChicago workload is harder is HILARIOUS. </p>
<p>Maybe the reason the UChicago crowd studies so much is because IT TAKES THEM LONGER TO MASTER THE SAME MATERIAL. </p>
<p>It's easy to see how the UChicago crowd would think -- Wow this work is hard!! --- no one else must be doing this much work but me!!! This is an all too common mindset; people frequently feel this way in hardships where they blow problems way out of proportion. It's complete b.s. though.</p>
<p>If you're pulling all nighters twice a week, you must have poor time managment or study skills. Or maybe you're a slow reader or you don't have high cognitive abilities. At any and all high caliber schools, I am constantly hearing how somebody has x amount of tests tomorrow, needs to read y amount of books this week, and has to write twenty 10-page essays by Friday. Of course everyone is busy. Stop whining, be a man (or woman) and get it done.</p>
<p>Katharos, you're scheduled must be booked solid at UChicago for you to be browsing the College Confidential forums every five minutes.</p>
<p>I know a smart kid who went to UChicago; yes I agree it is a high-caliber academic institution. But if the UChicago alumni on this board are taken as examples, UC produces anything but humbleness or a grounding in reality.</p>
<p>I contend that Northwestern and UChicago are peer institutions, yes PEER INSTITUTIONS GET OVER IT, and share similar academic reputations, but each school has its own distinct "personality" or "atmosphere". Choose either school based on this distinction. Anything contrary to the previous statements is utter b.s., generally promoted by a current student or alumnus of either school, mainly intended to help convince primarily <em>THEMSELVES</em> that their school is better and they made the right choice in attending it. Obviously most kids had a choice of either attending UC or NU (b/c they are peers) and put significant stock in their final decision. They must convince themselves they made the right decision (although in the end, the difference between going to either school for undergrad in laughably insignificant). My advice: GET OVER YOURSELF. Calling someone dumb because they went to one top institution over another is insane. No, going to UChicago or Northwestern DOES NOT CLOSE DOORS. Stop freaking kids out.</p>
<p>Congratulations, peter-parker. You just made yourself come off as an obnoxious fool.</p>
<p>Just so you know, it's midterms week at UChicago. I have excellent time management skills, actually... Perhaps I just have it bad because I have a very time consuming outside job and I'm taking a third year ancient language course as a first year (translation takes time -- a lot of it).</p>
<p>Of course you are an excellent authority of how intelligent UChicago students are. You would know.</p>
<p>Peter Parker, you are an embarrassment to Rice and very non-typical, fortunately, for a Rice student.</p>
<p>To all the people who said that UChic has a very tough workload - Can you please explain what exactly you mean by that? I mean i thought that the workload at any top univ. would be tough.
Is the UChic workload tougher than that of HYPS? or simply tougher than that of NW?</p>
<p>MoWC,</p>
<p>you are divorced, aren't you</p>
<p>No, sorry. You are too young for me anyway and not my type.</p>
<p>Katharos, within my major (chemical engineering), I didn't know anybody that got time for a "time-consuming" outside job. The chemE computer lab was a second home for a lot of us. We had a study group of 6 or 7 that worked until 4am for just a problem set. Just let you know mine wasn't easy though I usually don't talk about it. </p>
<p>Like peter-parker, I always think they are peers but there are just some die-hard Chicago fans that think it's better than NU or just about anybody. They are of course entitled to their opinion.</p>
<p>But what's weird is they want it both ways. When a thread is about academics, they would say how their workloads are much more demanding and how they have to constantly study to survive and how they <em>love</em> to stay up late or all nights for schoolwork. Some even say they are better than Harvard on this board. Whatever. They would also tell you they have grade deflation when in reality, more than half graduate with honors (GPA>3.25); NU's two largest schools, engineering school and art&sci, have average of 3.21 and 3.26, respectiviely (music/education/communication are significantly more inflated) and most students in these two schools don't graduate with honors; the difference is they don't talk about it. But when the thread is about social life or when faced with criticism of not having balanced college life, Chicago fans would tell you they have just as much fun as others and they aren't nerds..blah blah. </p>
<p>By the way, to those who say NU students have less doors or "fabulous opportunities" opened for them, I guess you must have some god-like power to differentiate the difference. I wonder if you are applying such bold generalization to every field out there. I also would like to let you know NU (undergrad) is in the top-10 in terms of graduating number of Fortune 500 CEOs. I guess NU alums are pretty good at seizing the ones, albeit very limited, available to them? lol!</p>
<p>All top schools, especially top private schools are similar to a certain extent. Most of the comments about how some schools are more academically rigorous and others more "fun" do not have a lot of basis and are ideas propogated by people who have absolutely no actual experience at any of the schools they talk about.</p>
<p>I've attended two Ivies, visited probably 15 of the top 25 schools for a weekend or more (including both Chicago and NU...I grew up in Chicago). Chicago was depessing.</p>
<p>UChicago depressing? How so? I rather enjoy it here.</p>