<p>“And by the way, Zagat is not reliable!”</p>
<p>Boy oh boy, are you ever so right with that statement!</p>
<p>It’s interesting how you guys have transitioned into I-Banking as if you were reading my mind 
I’m still open to multiple career options but I definitely don’t want to do Engineering for the rest of my life. What about workload/research opps between the two schools? Is the College of Engineering also considered more “elite” than the LSA at Michigan? What about Northwestern?</p>
<p>Michigan’s CoE is not considered more elite than Ross or LSA. Each of those colleges is very highly regarded. The CoE is usually ranked between #5 and #10, Ross BBA is usually ranked between #2 and #5 and LSA has several top 10 departments, including the following, many of which are ranked among the top 5:</p>
<p>Anthropology
Classics
Economics
Geology
History
International Studies
Languages
Mathematics
Physics
Political Science
Psychology
Sociology</p>
<p>Unfortunately, unlike the CoE and Ross, LSA does not have an active career office, so professional placement is not as impressive.</p>
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Where did you get these NRC rankings? I thought NRC rankings are in ranges.</p>
<p>Regardless, the USNWR undergraduate Engineering rankings are derived entirely from the opinions of deans and/or top faculty of Engineering programs. As such, I don’t see why anyone would wish to resort to graduate rankings. Graduate rankings are a good proxy in the absense of undergraduate rankings but unecessary where undergraduate rankings are available.</p>
<p>I’m going to start off with by stating my biases – I’m a parent whose child chose NU over both Michigan.</p>
<p>A poster said that Michigan is not cutting edge programs. Interesting point, I think it’s fair to say that in student recruiting presentations, NU gives the impression of taking a more collaborative approach to education than Michigan, and that Michigan has a more traditional approach. However, I’m not sure whether this is the way the schools choose to present themselves,or whether there is a major substantive difference in education.</p>
<p>Even if true, it really says relatively little about the education at either school. Some students may favor one approach over the other, and this would be a reason for choosing between the schools, I suppose. However, it says little about education at either school.</p>
<p>Basically, when you come down to it, both schools offer an excellent education, both in their engineering schools and other schools. However, my child and I both felt that the schools had a very different feel. I think that after visiting, most students would come away with a clear preference for one or the other of these schools. For some, the preference would be Michigan and for others NU.</p>
<p>To OP’s original question – there are certainly cases where I think one would choose a school with a better overall reputation – for example, if you had asked about Purdue vs NU, I’m pretty sure I’d recommend NU for most students all other things being equal. (Not meant as a knock against Purdue, which is excellent, but IMHO, not in the same class as either NU or Michigan).</p>
<p>Given the reputation of each both overall and in engineering, for an OOS student (i.e., no tuition edge for Michigan) there really isn’t a wrong way to go</p>
<p>Wonderful response.</p>
<p>Northwestern is a wonderful school, but for engineering I really think that Michigan will have more of the resources you want. And Northwestern is ranked higher, but Michigan is also one of the best schools in the country, so I wouldn’t let a factor like that influence your decision.</p>
<p><a href=“goldenboy”>quote</a> The new ones are but the old ones aren’t i.e. the 1995 version.
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So the ranking data you posted on #16 are from the NRC 1995 data. Same question. I wonder where you got your data as it is quite different from Northwestern’s own website.</p>
<p>NRC 1995 rankings for Northwestern Engineering:
[NRC</a> Rankings in Each of 41 Areas](<a href=“NRC Rankings in Each of 41 Areas”>NRC Rankings in Each of 41 Areas)</p>
<p>Chemical Engineering #15
Civil Engineering #9
Electrical Engineering #39
Materials Engineering #2
Mechanical Engineering #12
Industrial Engineering #6</p>
<p>Let me solve the mystery: they are upper end of the NRC S-rankings.</p>
<p>I’ll throw my 2 cents in as well…agree w/ zephyr15. Both are great schools w/ great programs, but w/ completely different feels to them. My son chose Michigan engineering over Northwestern because although he liked Northwestern a lot, he preferred the environment at Michigan. He liked an “engineering campus” over an engineering building, and the energy at U-M was very different from that at Northwestern. It came down to personal preference.</p>
<p>Go to urban dictionary and search university of Michigan. 3 or 4th down says something like “if you get into Michigan or northwestern choose Michigan, if you get into Michigan or Harvard choose Harvard” that pretty much sums it up</p>
<p>Sent from my LG-P999 using CC App</p>
<p>^the person that wrote that was probably bitter because he/she didn’t have that choice at the first place. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>^ the person who wrote that was probably bitter because they made the wrong choice.</p>
<p>I was just making light of the discussion… calm down</p>
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<p>Saying that:
is gross misrepresentation of data at best.</p>
<p>I am not surprised. Goldenboy, like so many other Duke students/alums that have obsessively trolled the Michigan forum in recent years, will sink to incredible lows to convince people that Michigan cannot possibly come close to private universities. He recently claimed that Penn Engineers have similar placement power into major IBanks and Consulting firms and used Jerome Fisher (join program with Wharton) graduates to prove his point! He claims that 12 Duke students accepted jobs with BCG but offered no proof to support that claim. He further claims that out of 800-1,000 duke students seeking jobs, only 300-350 seek work with IBanks and Management Consulting firms and again offers no proof of his claim. </p>
<p>Of course, I will delete his posts that attempt to denigrate Michigan or unduly boost private universities.</p>
<p>pacer31,</p>
<p>Wasn’t referring to you but the person that posted that on urban dictionary. Sorry for not being clear.</p>
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<p>I second that.</p>
<p>However, it should also be noted that all schools have ranges like that, with some wider and some narrower. I vaguely recalled when the rankings first came out, one CC member took the averages or something like that and Northwestern came out to be around #7 overall.</p>
<p>Lol Alexandre you are the man (im assuming you are male). The last sentence you wrote cracked me up. Master ■■■■■.</p>
<p>Haha, interesting. Michigan’s going to be as expensive as a private for me so it won’t matter 
Do any current Michigan students care to shed some light on the nuances of the Engineering program there? Workload/Classes etc.</p>