<p>I think the most infuriating thing here is the apparent lack of consistency in how proctors are deciding what is acceptable. If he had gone to another testing site, would he have had the same problem?</p>
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<p>I think it is one of those things that got screwed up in this transition period. Do complain and ask your school to also file a complaint.</p>
<p>perazziman - if your son has a score in 2100 in 2010, then the PSAT score is the one out of the norm. He must have slept through that. He seems to have underperformed on his PSAT in 2010.</p>
<p>Any reason he did not finish these tests in summer if he has been performing so well?</p>
<p>After reading this post I was worried my picture would be “unacceptable” for the Nov. SAT test date so I called collegeboard. What they’re saying is even though the photo is not required until next year, if you uploaded a photo, it is required for YOU. I think your son shouldve been able to take the test and I think Collegeboard should do a special test date for you son! It’s ridiculous!!!</p>
<p>I figured that was the case , Jayeslee. Once you undergo a process, whether it is required or not the rules regulating it or being tweaked as they are being made apply to you. Unfortunately, OP’s son was a guinea pig for this new requirement, and anytime something new comes along there will likely be a lot of bugs in there.</p>
<p>It really depends on how much a fuss and stink OP wants to make. It takes time and effort. I’d be plenty angry and would spend some time filing complaints and requesting the high school to do the same, but how far I would go, I don’t know and I have no idea if CB is going do do more than even apologize. I’ve seen other cases where kids got the short end of the stick due to CB or school error. I think in every college app cycle, something went awry in our family.</p>
<p>Now I regret uploading a picture… However, on the photo upload requirements page, it doesn’t say it’s not required until next year and plus when I was registering for the SAT, I don’t even remember if I saw letters that said something like “Photo not required until blah 2013”… plus on my admission ticket, theres nothing on it that says the photo isn’t required until 2013. SO WHERE IN THE WORLD DOES IT SAY ITS NOT REQUIRED UNTIL NEXT YEAR??? I hope they accept my photo next month because I’m a senior and thats pretty much my last chance. it says it shouldnt be grainy, but idk if it’s my printer or its cuz it’s on paper, but it looks a little grainy and dark… UGH…</p>
<p>Just called CB,
March 2013 is the first exam date which requires a photo on the admission ticket.
You have an option to upload a photo for any exams before March.</p>
<p>Thank you thank you…Maybe it is best for nobody to upload one until they get their act together.</p>
<p>Now, CB has our kids’ photos on its system.</p>
<p>Do you think CB will sell our kids’ photos with names to colleges which want to buy them? colleges usually buy the name lists from CB.
Do you think CB will send score reports along with photos to the colleges our kids apply to?</p>
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<p>Texaspg, There are no SAT Test Administrations during the summer, except the early June date. The next one is October (last weekend). He took the SAT Math II in June and scored 750. It was suggested that this would be a good test to take after taking Pre Calculus. Three weeks into the summer, I suggested he start his prep for the SAT and take a benchmark to see where he stood, as we were not sure if he was closer to the SAT or PSAT score at this time. On the first benchmark he scored a 2400. In disbelief, I asked him to take another. He scored another 2400. So, he was signed up for the next SAT date, which was Oct (last weekend). There were no other dates in the summer. October is when SAT testing begins. </p>
<p>Also, I should point out that we were very happy about the photo requirement and wanted him to take the test when the rule was in effect. The photo we submitted is a very high quality photo that I thought would help clearly identify him. Apart from the fact that it is more side profiled (the eye lashes of the other eye are, however visible), it is perfect in every regard for identifying the child. It is bright, taken with an 8 megapixel camera, from the shoulders up, clearly visible hair line, recent etc. It gives a good view of the jaw line and shape of the forehead etc, which are also very important features, in his case and would not be visible in a face front, both earlobes showing, type of photo.</p>
<p>Also, I goofed, the SAT was taken in 2011 not 2010 and was exactly 800 points higher. (I actually just received copies of the results from Duke TIP yesterday, since I could not find them).</p>
<p>2008 SAT Math TIP: 320
2010 PSAT Math : 62
2011 SAT Math : 690
2011 PSAT Math : 690
2012 SAT Math II : 750</p>
<p>The most dramatic changes in Writing occurred in the PSAT:</p>
<p>2008 SAT Writing (TIP): 330
2010 PSAT Writing : 45
2011 SAT Writing : 620
2011 PSAT Writing : 76 (coincides with a score of 5 in AP Lang)</p>
<p>I just looked at the CB site. I don’t see anywhere that the photo is not required until March. I don’t doubt the person who posted this. Its that for all purposes it appears to be required even if it is or is not.
CB needs to be very clear about this.</p>
<p>@ OP This is great improvement over time but really-a lot can go on in one year of teen age growth and development. I would bet if you posted his height and weight next to those scores you would see similar changes. If anyone were to ask why his scores increased, I would reply with the question "Does your son wear the same clothing and shoes he did in 7th grade? These increases are great, but I would be more concerned about a child who had the exact same scores in high school as he did in 7th grade. Teenage growth is notoriously rapid.
It is unfortunate that this picture incidence occurred. Beyond that, you have a talented son who, like most teen age boys, demonstrates a lot of growth, learning, and maturity over 5 years.</p>
<p>@Pennylane2011,
You can call CB, or you can use your kid’s acct login to register a Nov or Dec exam, just BEFORE you input credit card#, you will understand it.
I can’t find anywhere on CB’s website said “until March” either. I agree with you “CB needs to be very clear about this.”</p>
<p>They don’t “need” to do anything unless and until someone can make enough stink to make them. Most of us don’t have time and just take the consequences of these kind of mistakes.</p>
<p>According to Ray Nicosia, Executive Director for the Office of Testing Integrity at ETS:</p>
<p>And so there are the “after-the-fact checks” which are based on a variety of triggers or red flags. The most typical trigger is a large score difference between a first SAT score and a second score. Since the ETS security office personnel are trained in handwriting analysis, a big score-jump means the test-taker’s handwriting is analyzed. The analysis will confirm whether the test-taker is an imposter, either someone hired to take the test, or a sibling or a friend. If handwriting is cleared, the office does a “copy-check,” investigating whether the questionable student and those sitting nearby answered the same questions incorrectly.</p>
<p>“If the only thing we have is the score jump but we don’t have a missing book, or we don’t have a handwriting difference, or the answers are not matching up with anyone else’s, we will clear the case and release the scores. But, if it doesn’t meet our standards we will go forward and question the score.”</p>
<p>The picture debacle has nothing to do with the test score jump, IMO. It’s just that CB does not have this well in place yet, but once someone does try to comply wiht the photo thing, it sets a whole new pathway of checks. Once everyone is so required, I doubt they are going to be so picky. Otherwise they will be losing a lot of kids to the ACT, something that is already happening.</p>
<p>I agree that this likely has nothing to do with the scores. It is simply incompetence by the site personnel and whoever they called. CB just doesn’t want to deal with the problem. (Two years ago, my daughter had trouble convincing the sign-in person at the SAT that her passport was a suitable picture ID.)</p>
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<p>By the way, do you remember those infant height and weight charts? So, there are people who believe we fit into a range. Then, when people go outside that range it has to be investigated.</p>
<p>It is all conjecture at this point, but here is another interesting article</p>
<p>[The</a> Answer Sheet - When kids cheat on SAT, ACT](<a href=“http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/college-admissions/when-kids-cheat-on-sat-act.html]The”>http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/college-admissions/when-kids-cheat-on-sat-act.html)</p>
<p>“Both said a review of a student’s test could be triggered in one of several ways, including an audit that flags scores that have risen dramatically, or by a tip from outside parties, such as a guidance counselor, college admissions officer or NCAA official.”</p>
<p>So it is possible that as soon as the administrator called College Board, it may have triggered something. I certainly find it hard to believe that an otherwise good photo would cause such a severe reaction.</p>