<p>I had a chance to look at the list of firms coming to cornell for campus recruit and I didn't see top consulting firms like Mckinsey ,Bain , or BCG ...</p>
<p>Does this mean that I have to do all the process my own,visit NYC and beg for internship interviews,etc,etc,with slighter prospect than kids attending schools that the firms campus recruit like H,P,D??
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a bit disappointed,,,leaning toward Dartmouth....but I like cornell other than this..dartmouth is colder than cornell...</p>
<p>A lot of big consulting firms recruit for ILR, AEM, Engineering, and Hotel students, and will usually be present at those specific career fairs, not the University wide ones.</p>
<p>I am positive that McKinsey, Bain, and BCG all recruit heavily at Cornell.</p>
<p>Yes, it means you have to beg.</p>
<p>Or you could’ve done a 5 minute google search and come up with:</p>
<p>[Northeast_Schools_3</a> | US Schools Recruitment](<a href=“http://www.mckinsey.com/careers/us_schools/campus_calendar/northeast_schools_3.aspx]Northeast_Schools_3”>http://www.mckinsey.com/careers/us_schools/campus_calendar/northeast_schools_3.aspx)</p>
<p>[BCG</a> - BCG at Cornell University](<a href=“http://www.bcg.com/join_bcg/oncampus/cornell.aspx#applicationDetails]BCG”>http://www.bcg.com/join_bcg/oncampus/cornell.aspx#applicationDetails)</p>
<p>Which ones for ILR?</p>
<p>lek, mercer, bain, bcg, mck, booz, oliver wyman, big 4 consulting, towers perrin, etc</p>
<p>then students from OTEHR COLLEGES like cas are excluded from the career fair opportunities of these top consulting firms?..</p>
<p>You can get interviews with these companies through their specialized websites/liaisons with the schools, regardless of your college.</p>
<p>Some colleges also bring them in to their specialized career fairs, which are often closed to only people within the college.</p>
<p>So will you be excluded from these firms if you are in CAS? No. Will you not be able to see them at a career fair for ILRies? Maybe.</p>
<p>This is also something I’m concerned about. It seems that the major companies recruit more heavily from HYPS and Dartmouth (which I’m considering, I like Cornell, but I like Dartmouth for its strong alumni network). This problem wouldn’t matter so much if I went to grad school, which I plan to do, but then Dartmouth is statistically a higher feeder school than Cornell, not to mention getting into a top grad school is hard regardless of where I went. (I’ve heard Cornell doesn’t have as many applicants since ILR, Hotel, and Engineering don’t need to apply to grad school, but still, you have a larger class size (>double) than Dartmouth excluding those three schools.)</p>
<p>You are an individual data point, not a statistical average of all the data points that happen to be physically present at your school.</p>
<p>That’s how you will be evaluated. You will submit your particular credentials for any jobs and graduate programs, and will be selected or not based on their evaluation of you as an individual.</p>
<p>If many other people at your school are ideally fit for a particular type of job, and so are you, well then you might get in, and the aggregate stats for that school, viewed after the fact, may be relatively high. Such may be the case for a school with a highly homogeneous student body, based on both capabilites and interests.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if you are ideally qualified for that job, so are lots of others at your school, but many others there are not looking for that type of thing, and/or some others may be not quite as qualfied, then you may still get the job, so will others there, but the school’s proportion of people who do so will be smaller. Because its student body is more diverse.</p>
<p>Either way, if your school regularly sends students someplace there’s a good chance you can wind up there too, if you fit well. Regardless of the proportion of fellow students there that share these goals and are also well qualified, hence achieve them along with you.</p>
<p>And if your school sends a high proportion of students to some prestigious grad program, but you are a moron, you should not expect to share their fate simply because you also go to that school.</p>
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<p>I think you would also have to exclude all of the biology and environmental science majors in the Ag School as well. But monydad is right on the money that individuals aren’t included in statistics and that you are the most important determinant in your own destiny, not the school.</p>
<p>Frankly, I’m not all that convinced that Dartmouth has a stronger network than Cornell. After I graduated from Cornell I lived in Boston (which is basically Dartmouth South) and ended up befriending a bunch of Dartmouth folks. I ended up attending some weddings, etc., and didn’t notice anything particularly strong about Dartmouth’s network vis-a-vis Cornell’s, save for the fact that Cornell was more diverse in terms of engineers and architects and people doing all kinds of things.</p>
<p>And even if Dartmouth did have a stronger network, it certainly doesn’t have the breadth of Cornell’s network in as many regions or in as many areas of interest.</p>
<p>I’m strongly considering Cornell for the Operations Research major in the School of Engineering for a more quantitative approach to consulting/finance. What are some of the major companies that recruit through AEM, but not Engineering (and vice versa)?</p>
<p>Consulting is definitely not as strong at Cornell as banking. This is both because consulting firms are much smaller and because Cornellians tend to lean towards finance more so than consulting.</p>
<p>Many consulting firms reduced their recruiting efforts this year and some top firms did not come to campus at all (ie. Bain came last year but not this year). This is not to say that Bain does not consider Cornell a “target”, it still does (and people still get hired there every year), it is just that consulting recruitment in general has been cut significantly. Since fewer people go from Cornell into consulting, the interview process is actually more informal…one guy who was hired by McKinsey was interviewed in the now bankrupt Green Cafe in Ctown. Firms such as Accenture, Deloitte, etc. still recruit heavily as always.</p>
<p>The alumni base is also very helpful. I have had the opportunity to speak with senior people (partner level) and junior level people (post college and post MBA) who work at most top firms (BCG, Bain, as well as Deloitte, etc.), and they were very responsive to my questions. Did not speak to anyone from McKinsey, simply because I have not gotten around to it (I am a sophomore), not because they aren’t out there.</p>
<p>Also, for what it is worth I am in AEM, so the crowd here is mostly focused on finance. It is possible that my perception is skewed as I would imagine that many of the aspiring consultants come from a variety of majors here at Cornell, as opposed to finance/bankign where most people come from a few select programs.</p>