<p>My friend wants to know if he can bypass signing up for the draft while getting financial aid at some prestigious private college. I told him no, but now I'm kinda curious too.</p>
<p>It’s also a federal law that you HAVE to sign up for the draft. If you don’t sign up, I think that you could actually face prison time.</p>
<p>You definitely cannot qualify for federal aid without signing up for selective service on FAFSA. Private schools that use profile also generally require you to complete FAFSA. So I think the answer would be no.</p>
<p>Your friend does not want to signup to serve their country but they also want their country to provide financial aid? Wow</p>
<p>No choice. It is a federal LAW that this friend of yours must sign up for the selective service. In the 60’s when folks didn’t want to do this, they moved to Canada…but they also didn’t expect the U.S. government to give them financial aid. I agree with Maiden…wow.</p>
<p>Well, not necessarily. He is asking if he can get aid from a private college if he doesn’t sign up–presumably meaning instiutional aid. If that’s his question, I don’t think there’s a quick answer. No, he won’t get Federal aid. What the college would do is a different question. Private colleges sometimes give aid to undoc aliens, too.</p>
<p>No one has gone to jail for not signing up in many years (we researched this.) The gov decided long ago that that’s a war it doesn’t want to fight.</p>
<p>And finally, I question the notion that not wanting to be drafted means a person is unpatriotic and should not want to be in any way benefited by our government (which presumably he and his family pay taxes to.) Looking at our recent history, there are millions of folks in this country who would be loath to participate in the actions of our armed forces as they are presently being used. To not want to be put in a position where you have no choice but to do so is not in any way an unpatriotic position (it may in fact be a very principled position, since although it is not at present being prosecuted, it could be), and it strikes me as unfair reactionaryism to assume otherwise.</p>
<p>Well…the private LAC’s my kids applied to that required the PROFILE also required the FAFSA (that’s where the selective service question is). I do know, of course, know what happens if you do not answer this question correctly…but I thought the FAFSA would not submit if you were required to register with the selective service. </p>
<p>I agree that this is not an indication of your patriotism. It made me sick when my son had to register (and my daughter didn’t…what’s that all about??).</p>
<p>Still..back to the question…I think the real question is…what does the college require? If they require a submitted FAFSA to complete the finaid process, then this person has a dilemma. If not…no problem. Just do the Profile. But that has NOT been our experience. ALL of the schools were clear…both FAFSA AND Profile before the finaid calculators at the schools started clicking.</p>
<p>I agree they all require it. I think it would take some indepth, confidential questioning by the student with the FA office to see if they could file without filing FAFSA because of these circumstances. I’m guessing that most wouldn’t be sympathetic, but a few might be.</p>
<p>It’s too bad you can’t file and say you don’t want to join SS in order to get turned down, but if you do, you’ll be automatically registered, so that wouldn’t work.</p>
<p>First of all, it’s not a draft, it’s a registration.</p>
<p>Secondly, if one does not register with Selective Service and files a FAFSA, the government will become aware of the lack of registration (assuming some giant cross-referencing of information).</p>
<p>S1 turned 18 in August, knew about the requirement to register because they do a huge presentation on it and register guys at his HS, but deliberately chose NOT to register. After we filed the FAFSA the next April, he received a letter requiring him to register within 30 days (can’t recall the consequences), which we urged him to do (and he reluctantly did). S1 does not receive any federal aid, nor is he using any federal loans. We assume that it was just a cross-reference from filling out a government form.</p>
<p>^Yeah, this is confirms that I am thinking that if he really doesn’t want to register, he can’t file FAFSA. He’ll need to take the question directly to the schools. Probably in a hypothetical way: not, Will you still give me aid? But, what would you do in the case of someone who didn’t file FAFSA because of not wanting to register for SS?</p>
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simple - Congress forbids the DOD from allowing women to serve in “combat”. </p>
<p>It IS a registration. Not a draft. We do not have a draft. The purpose of a draft is to supply troops to the infantry. Women can’t serve in the infantry - ergo - no registration.</p>
<p>I would be curious to know of a school that will give need based financial aid without filing the FAFSA - good grief - if that was the case then who would go through it?</p>
<p>There are schools that do give Merit Scholarships at the time of acceptance - usually based on SAT’s and GPA’s, etc … you wouldn’t need to register with Selective Service to receive a scholarship.</p>
<p>^that’s a good idea.</p>
<p>But as to who would go through it, I’m thinking that the case would be the numbers would still have to be supplied, and perhaps the school wouldn’t make up for federal money, if any, lost. For most students, unless there was an objection such as this, it would make way more sense to file the FAFSA.</p>
<p>Ah, just found this:
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<p>[Friends</a> United Meeting: About FUM - A Guide for Friends on Conscientious Objection to War](<a href=“http://www.fum.org/about/resources/coguide.html]Friends”>http://www.fum.org/about/resources/coguide.html)</p>
<p>I think that on all of the college apps we’ve filled out so far, you have to check a box and attest that you’ve registered for the draft if required by law to do so. I don’t know what effect not checking that box might have. Does anyone know?</p>
<p>I’m just curious…I have a D.</p>
<p>I don’t recall exactly, but there definitely was a question/reference on the FAFSA.</p>
<p>S1 was awarded institutional merit aid with his acceptance, but the school did require the FAFSA, probably before actually crediting any aid to his student account.</p>
<p>I don’t recall ever seeing an SS registration question on a college app. Is this something new?</p>
<p>No idea if it’s new. It’s not on the common app but I’ve seen it on at least two or three, I’m thinking they were all state schools.</p>
<p>garland -</p>
<p>Thanks for the FUM link. I figured that something like that ought to exist. You saved me a bunch of googling.</p>
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<p>I’ve never seen this on a college application but it IS on the FAFSA form. Of course, there could be colleges that have this question…I just never have seen or heard of this on a college application myself.</p>
<p>Honestly, I think if you don’t properly check the box on the FAFSA, your FAFSA will not be processed. Am I correct about that??</p>