Not sending in AP scores = dishonest?

<p>I personally don’t think that’d be a problem.</p>

<p>To give everyone a future reference, these were what the adcoms of each university said (word by word)</p>

<p>Harvard:
“AP scores are not required for our process, so you don’t have to submit them. Should you chose to self report, you may be selective in what you send.”</p>

<p>Yale:
“You can choose which scores to report for the AP, AMC, and AIME.”</p>

<p>Princeton:
“We prefer to receive the results of all AP exams.” → note that it’s PREFER. aka not required. </p>

<p>Stanford:
“Since AP courses are not available to all of our applicants, AP scores are
not used as a determining factor in the admission process. If you have
taken AP exams and would like for us to see your scores, you may certainly
include them in your application; however, we will focus most of our
attention to your grades in those courses.”</p>

<p>MIT:
" Students are not required to submit AP scores but if they choose to they are self reported, although you could exclude the score from a particular exam if you are admitted we ask you to officially submit your scores."</p>

<p>Brown:
“When an applicant applies to Brown, they may choose to self-report any AP scores that they have from course work in high school. You do not need to report your scores should you choose not to do so.”</p>

<p>Universities of California:
“A poor AP Score will not be held against you on your application, so you should report all AP tests that you have taken regardless of the score you received.”</p>

<p>Rice:
“Thanks for your question. We require that students disclose all test scores, including AP/SAT/ACT that they have taken.”</p>

<p>Harvey Mudd:
“Thank you for your email and interest in Harvey Mudd College. Harvey Mudd does not require that applicants self-report their AP scores. You may choose to disclose your AP scores within the designated area on the Common Application, but we do not require that you submit score reports to us.”</p>

<p>Amherst:
“Thank you for your email and your interest in Amherst College. If you are self-reporting AP exams and scores in the relevant section on the Common Application, we do not require that you self-report scores for all AP exams ever taken.”</p>

<p>Carnegie Mellon:
"Thanks for your email to the Carnegie Mellon University Office of Admission.</p>

<p>You only need to self report AP scores that you believe will help in the admission process."</p>

<p>Basically all of these colleges except for UC schools and Rice said a paraphrase of “you don’t have to report them all.” Which is totally expected since AP score reports are not requirements on the application. Now I feel stupid about worrying about this at all. This is for future reference for any applicants who might be as worried as I was. Good luck, everyone!</p>

<p>FWIW: All selective colleges are interested in students that take the MOST DEMANDING courses at their high school. So, if a student has taken 6 AP courses, and 6 AP courses are listed on their transcript, an Admissions Director is going to question why the student only listed 3 or 4 AP tests. There are only two answers to that question, and they DO NOT bode well for the student: (1) The student did not take the test, and therefore his or her course load doesn’t appear as rigorous as a student who took the course and the test, Or, (2) The student took the test, but did badly on it, because they didn’t report the test grade. So, if a student self-studied for a test and did badly, they can easily get away with not listing it, as the course will not appear on their transcript. But if you took the course, and the couse appears on your transcript, but you do not list the test, it sets off a red flag, if you will. Admissions starts to ask themselves “Why . . .” And with applications to colleges being as competitive as they are, you don’t want an AdCom to start looking more closely at your application and wondering about how you really did! It best to just list all your AP tests following the course that you took and let the chips fall where they may.</p>

<p>gibby’s words are very true. however, given that the common app has only 8 spaces for AP scores (I asked them and they are not expanding this section with their new application this year), and most colleges DON’T have extra spaces on their supplement, it is quite obvious that most applicants just report their ~8 best scores and omit the rest (I mean those spaces are shared with SAT II scores).</p>

<p>Just FYI for you all, Rice sent me a correction:
“I apologize for the confusion. AP scores are not required for admission; however we do recommend you report them if you have them. You may use the Common App to report as many scores as you can or you can choose to send us the official scores. Either is acceptable.”</p>

<p>Would you mind saying what you ended up getting?</p>

<p>Either way, don’t feel bad about it. I had low B’s both semesters of AP Physics C (it covered both kinds), and I got a 4 on Mechanics but a 1 on E&M.</p>

<p>Do not get confused with being dishonest versus falsely representing yourself. It’s not required to send in for many universities. It’s your decision on whether to release them or not.</p>

<p>Based on the latest information in this thread, there is only space for reporting eight tests on the new common application.</p>

<p>If there are only eight spaces to report SAT II’s AND AP scores, I suppose that if you have taken more than eight tests you will have to leave some off the list. </p>

<p>Am I interpreting this correctly?</p>

<p>Its not dishonest, and it doesn’t matter, so don’t worry.</p>

<p>i know when i visited university of pennsylvania, they said that it may look as if you were hiding things if you only reported good ap scores. However, it still was not required. I dont think a bad score in a class you did not take could have much affect.</p>

<p>I ended up with a 2 on E&M. How I didn’t get a 1 I honestly don’t know. I decided not to report the score for any colleges I apply to except for UC schools, which, with their own application system, require the self-report of all scores.</p>

<p>@mythreesons1144: Since I took 3 SAT II’s and 10 AP’s, I can leave out 3 scores on my common app, which I am going to do.</p>

<p>Regarding Gibby’s post #43 above: At our son’s high school, most students in some AP classes (such as US History) take the AP test, while in other classes almost no one does (Latin). Although a dozen kids take AP Latin each year, in most years no one signs up for the test. This reason, I think, is that (in the absence of pressure from the teacher) there really is no reason to take the AP tests unless you can use them to your advantage when you get to college (i.e., either advanced placement or course credit). The Latin classes at our son’s school are dual enrolled with the local community college, so anyone going on to the UC or CSU will get college credit without the AP test. And some very selective schools give only very limited AP credit. Why spend a lot of time and money on a test that will bring you no benefit other than being called “AP Scholar” or some similar award?</p>

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<p>Could Gibby explain his/her reasoning here? Why would not taking the test imply anything about how rigorous the course load was? To me, not taking the test means that the student has rationally assessed the costs and benefits of taking the test, and has made a rational decision.</p>

<p>Ehmygawd I can’t do math. I am leaving out FIVE of my AP scores.</p>

<p>Interesting thread. So, if there are only 8 spaces on the common app for your scores, how would it be dishonest if you only chose to report your best ones out of the more than 8 tests you took?</p>

<p>@curlyviolinist: Technically, applicants CAN report all their scores by putting them in the “additional information” section. However, they don’t have to. Most colleges (all the colleges I’ve sent emails to except for Universities of California) don’t require the report of any AP scores, although some colleges (Princeton, Rice, USC, for example) prefer/(strongly) encourage it. Nevertheless, in the end, it all boils down to the applicant’s choice. Whether he reports it all or not, no one can blame him. I chose not to report my scores, because I decided that I do not want to compromise my chances at a school because of a stupid mistake, especially when I am not required to do so.</p>

<p>@Absoluteness, I agree with you, especially with your last sentence! I have an unattractive AP Chemistry score that I plan on not including.</p>