Not Sure if I should even apply?

<p>Hello, if anyone would be so kind as to chance me...</p>

<p>Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Hispanic (Half)
Parental Income: More than 60,000 and less than 80,000 per year.</p>

<p>I'm afraid my school stats aren't that great...
Unweighted GPA: 2.92/4.0
Weighted: 96.8760/120.00
Class Rank: Top 25%-180th out of 725 (changes fairly often...)</p>

<p>Test Scores:
PSAT:190
SAT1-1700 Composite- 680 CR, 580 W, 440 M (I took the test before Alg.2- it would have been helpful if I had taken it before...)
ACT-Going to take in March and expect to do well.
World History-AP Test:4</p>

<p>Current class schedule for Junior Year:
English III AP
PSAT Team (by invite only)
Debate 3
APUSH
Academic Decathlon
Pre-AP Physics (switched to regular Physics at the end of first 9 weeks,still received the credit for Pre-AP class)
Spanish 3 Pre-AP (will be switching to Psychology at the 9 weeks for a GPA boosting class and will receive a half credit for the class-how important is the language component of the Yale app.?)
Algebra 2 (math is not my strongest subject)
Although this probably seems very weak compared to others on the board, this schedule is considered quite rigorous at my school. My school is not what I would consider "competitive"-especially considering the other high schools in the district.
However my senior schedule is almost entirely AP-only non AP class is PreCal, No senior 1st/4th off period, and no "blow off" classes.
Senior:
English 4 AP
AP Biology
Academic Decathlon
Adv.Journalism/Broadcast Journalism
Pre Calculus
Us Govt. AP
Econ. AP
Sociology
Theater Arts 1</p>

<p>EC's-
Academic Decathlon- I'm very heavily involved in this, and I consider it my greatest passion and what I enjoy the most, and it has affected my life completely. I'm an indespensible team member and will likely become the president of the group. </p>

<p>GSA- I'm also a member of our high school's GSA, which is quite rare in this part of the US...
Debate-Prose and Poetry-Oration-I was also involved heavily with speech events from freshman through junior year.
I also plan on working soon. </p>

<p>Would I be nuts to even apply? I think I'd succeed in a place like Yale, but I don't think my scores quite convey that.</p>

<p>Absolutely no chance whatsoever. Please don’t waste the money on the application fee.
Your GPA and scores are not even close to where they need to be. Also, with your record and stats it seems that you would not be able to handle the classes at a school like Yale. I’m sorry and I hope you find other options that you love. :)</p>

<p>Wow ohiomom that was really rude, I surely hope you do not discourage your children in the same manner.</p>

<p>But no, rosco there is no chance whatsoever that you will get into Yale. But that is okay because Yale is NOT the be all end all of colleges. There are TONS of colleges throughout America that would take you in a heart beat. You are in the top 25% of your class which is a good accomplishment. Apply to schools that recognize this because there are a number that would probably give you some merit money as well (if you up your SAT score or do well on the ACT). </p>

<p>Take it from someone already at Yale when I say to ignore CC and the people on here. These people ARE NOT what high school children should be. You have accomplished great things and don’t you ever let someone deprecate your accomplishments.</p>

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<p>I HIGHLY doubt you have any idea about the difficulty of classes at Yale.</p>

<p>^^^^^^^^^^Actually I do. Husband’s uncle is a professor there.^^^^^^^^^^^^</p>

<p>I was not trying to be rude at all. I would tell my own kids if they wouldn’t get in somewhere. I wouldn’t want them to get their hopes up and then be heartbroken when they didn’t get in (and hadn’t spent the time to find another school that they loved). No one deprecated anyone’s accomplishments. He simply doesn’t have the stats for Yale - plain and simple. He may be a fantastic applicant for schools that match with his scores and abilities. But he needs to move on and find somewhere else that he loves - not dwell on a school where there is no chance for admission.</p>

<p>I appreciate the honesty. Life isn’t a walk in the park and there’s no reason to sugarcoat it. I knew my stats aren’t great going into it, but I figured it was worth a shot.
Mainly now I’ve been focusing on LAC’s because I feel that they might overlook the missteps throughout my high school career. I’d love if I was good enough to go to H-Y-or Brown though. </p>

<p>If only I hadn’t taken Pre-AP Chem last year… :stuck_out_tongue:
Thanks guys!</p>

<p>1)Your husband’s uncle can not comment on the difficult of Yale vis a vis being a professor because professor don’t take classes here.</p>

<p>2) Then you should have said that, your first comment seemed extraordinarily trite. I apologize as I was unduly harsh, but it really bothers me that people on here dismiss the hard work that so many have put into school (not your specifically, but people on here in general).</p>

<p>i didn’t find ohiomom to be rude. as rosco admitted himself, the truth is the truth, and there’s no need to sugarcoat everything.</p>

<p>Perhaps I should flesh out the reasons why the classes were changed so many times? I certainly hope that I didn’t come across as a quitter.
I wanted to challenge myself and take the hardest classes that I could, because the regular level classes are far too easy. Thanks to a somewhat shaky background in math (somehow I didn’t learn the basics back in elementary school and it’s really killing me now…) I simply got lost in all of the vectors and sin, cos, tan. Thanks to the previous year’s experience with Chemistry that involved a difficulty with math and the fact that my teacher hadn’t even finished her science degree, my GPA was a solid B+, and soon eroded to lower than what it is today because I listened to incompetent boobs who told me to stay in the class when I knew that I should have left and saved my GPA in the process.</p>

<p>As for Spanish- I took Spanish 1 in middle school as a way to get ahead, took Spanish 2 freshman year, but I got bumped out of Spanish 3 because seniors needed it more than freshman.<br>
I hope that I’ve made myself a bit clearer…
Thanks.</p>

<p>Wow - that certainly does paint a MUCH clearer picture of you. I feel so bad for you. I totally see how your circumstances have created this academic record. Everything makes total sense. I think you will be fine applying to other schools! Keep up the good work! You certainly seem to be on the right path now! :)</p>

<p>Also, if you can get that UW GPA up over 3.0 and nail the ACT you will be in a really good position! Top 25% is already good. There are plenty of great school out there for you!</p>

<p>P.S. You also may want to reconsider finishing up that 3rd year of Spanish - that may be a big help to you in the long run. I’d stay in it if you can without killing your GPA.</p>

<p>I’m glad that I clarified my background. It certainly shows my self better than my record indicates. </p>

<p>I’d like to stay in Spanish, but I’ve been out of Spanish 1 and 2 for so long that I don’t remember all of the grammar rules and it’s making it very hard to even pass this first half of the class. If I could finish the class I’m likely to just be barely passing and my GPA will be killed again. That’s why I went to the counselor and took the only other elective that even counts toward GPA. If I can get the Spanish credit though, I could graduate under the Distinguished Achievement Program instead of recommended.
Ah, so is my life.</p>

<p>No chance at all. Zilch. Zero. Not one person admitted to Yale had less than a 3.0 GPA, and maybe a handful in the last decade have been admitted with an SAT score in the 400’s.
What you are hoping for falls nothing short of a miracle. Sorry.</p>

<p>Well… I’d focus on applications to more reasonable schools. That’s a nicer way to put the cold reality of your situation.</p>

<p>rosco,
Have you checked out the Hispanic Students subforum (under Admissions)? There’s lots of information there about diversity weekends, scholarships, summer programs, etc. With your 190 PSAT you might qualify for NHRP, depending on your state cut off.</p>

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<p>No one cares. You clearly have zero idea what you’re talking about. The fact that you think someone’s high school GPA says that he would not be able to handle classes at Yale is completely idiotic. Different classes have different difficulties. I don’t see how you can throw up a blanket statement saying that some college will just be too difficult. That’s absolutely nonsensical. Honestly it annoys me that people even say someone has no chance just because of the university he or she is going to, let alone based on some piece of garbage like high school GPA.</p>

<p>Yes, I have looked in the Hispanic students subforum and found it to be tremendously helpful and the posters tend to be very knowledgeable.
I’m hoping that I’ll qualify for NHRP. I’ve read (in the subforum) that Texas tends to have pretty low cut off scores (about 186?).</p>

<p>If travel is not a big issue, apply to geographically distant schools. Sometimes that helps.
Schools pride themselves on having students from all over.</p>

<p>Sorry to say but your chances at Yale are close to non-existent. There are many, many good schools in America that are much less selective, you should look for one that fits you.</p>

<p>No one on this forum can tell you your chances at a college. Just remember that, and applying if YOU think you have a chance.</p>

<p>Good luck</p>