Notre Dame, Michigan, WashU, SLU, Northwestern--- I will Chance back

<p>-Junior in HS
-3.94 UW GPA
-31 ACT
-7 Total AP Classes
-More than 100 hours of volunteer hours tutoring math and through church
-In NHS, Student Council, DECA, and a Leadership committee
-Varsity Soccer and Tennis
-Double Legacy at ND</p>

<p>Where is home state and what is your intended major?</p>

<p>@billcsho I am from Wisconsin and intending on majoring in either business or engineering. Not decided on that yet</p>

<p>ND: match, though it would help if you could improve your ACT
Mich: match
WUSTL: high match, again, it would help to raise your ACT
Northwestern: high match</p>

<p>Chance back
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1634747-chances-for-uva-and-vanderbilt-will-chance-back.html#latest”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1634747-chances-for-uva-and-vanderbilt-will-chance-back.html#latest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>For CoE and Ross, it will be a low reach for UMich. For LSA, it may be a very high match. The mid 50 ACT for CoE is 31-34.</p>

<p>ND - match (only because you are a double lagacy) otherwise it would be a low reach
Michigan - low reach because you are OOS it elevates it to reach status
Wash U - reach
Northwestern - reach</p>

<p>With your stats, all of them should be considered reaches (except ND because of legacy status). Your grades are very good. It is hard to judge your course rigor. 5s on all of the APs would help. Your ACT is near the median for most of the schools. Your ECs are ok to good (for these caliber of schools they are average). Overall you would be an average applicant to each of these schools. For selective schools like these, that puts you in the reach category.</p>

<p>Notre Dame- match
Mighigan- match
washu- low reach
northwestern- mid reach
chance back
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1633777-chance-me-will-chance-back.html#latest”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/1633777-chance-me-will-chance-back.html#latest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Any others?</p>

<p>ND low reach and others high reach. </p>

<p>This post is primarily for ND cause I am going there next year.</p>

<p>100 volunteer hours isn’t very impressive. And your ACT is below ND’s 25th percentile. You seem like a typical student who is in a couple clubs and plays sports. I don’t see any particular passion of reason to admit you.</p>

<p>The double legacy will help because ND loves legacy, but I honestly don’t think you will get in. The applicant pool has gotten very competitive and legacy won’t be enough to push you over the edge. </p>

<p>Good luck! If you have any questions feel free to PM me!</p>

<p>Also, be forewarned that beginning with next year’s applicant pool, they will begin limiting the number of students that they will enroll in Mendoza. From what I recall, if interested in studying business, you will apply with business as an intended major and either be admitted to Mendoza or not. You could still be admitted to the University, but not necessarily Mendoza. I also agree with picklechicken that your profile seems average for ND. I have a daughter who is currently a freshman, and in her admission cycle, I know of more than a few double legacy/average stats (for ND) applicants who were denied. Of the others, UMich and SLU seem in your wheelhouse, with WashU and NW being reaches.</p>

<p>Out of state UMich is just as competitive as ND. If you cannot get into ND with double legacy, your chance at UMich would be the same.</p>

<p>I expect to raise my ACT to a 32/33, and improve my ECs by joining more clubs and entering more leadership positions in my current clubs and organizations. Do you think with this said, my chances change at all?</p>

<p>^ Based on what I’ve seen the past couple of years, I would have to disagree. ACT is below middle 50 for ND, but at the high end of the middle 50 for UMich, and ND is very score conscious. UM also has a higher overall acceptance rate than ND, by about 10%. The legacy will give the OP a boost, but the legacy students I’ve seen accepted this year have had profiles that would make them competitive, legacy or not. Just basing this on what I’ve seen at the high school my daughters attend, but there are usually several students who apply to both who are some combination of legacy, in-state, or unhooked, if that makes any sense. </p>

<p>^ you are talking about UMich overall, not oos. I am comparing ND with legacy versus UMich oos admission. In 2012, the admission rate for in state was 52% while 30% for out state (when the overall acceptance rate was 37%). With the continue increase of applicants to UMich in recent years mostly from out of state and the continuous decrease in admission rate (~30% this year), it is estimated to be between 20-25% for out state now (vs 22% for ND).</p>

<p>^ I’m not looking to one up anyone, but I am basing my opinion on results I have seen for actual applicants the past few years. Granted, it is a small sample of the overall pool, but we live in an area and my kids go to a school that has several applicants each year who apply to both, some legacies at ND, some not, some in-state for UMich, some not. The past couple of years, the profile of students who have been accepted at UMich, both in and out of state, is a step below those, legacy or not, who have been accepted at ND. I’m not saying that’s the last word, just my experience. My advice to the OP would be to concentrate on raising his/her scores. Joining more clubs senior year tends to be a red flag that the applicant is resume padding. Not as sure about UMich, but ND looks for depth of EC involvement, not padding. My other bit of advice re: ND is to really give thought to your supplements. They really want to know that you are a fit and why. As someone from ND once told me, legacy status will cure the sick, but it won’t raise the dead.</p>

<p>Thanks for the advice! Anyone else?</p>

<p>Any others?</p>

<p>ND-Reach, legacy doesn’t mean much at this point, a family friend donated over 2Mil and granddaughter was denied.
WashU-reach
SLU-safety, likely would get lots of $$</p>

<p>@CTransfer2017‌ I’ve read that legacy only applies to children of grads, not grandchildren </p>