<p>Well I’ll speak to my area of expertise: business, particularly finance. Having worked on the East Coast (NE, NY, FL), while ND doesn’t place at the level of your top top schools, it certainly is a bigger draw than Michigan. I’m from the East Coast myself, and although I acknowledge UM’s relative academic superiority in engineering, I think the prestige of an ND degre is palpably greater out here.</p>
<p>“Well I’ll speak to my area of expertise: business, particularly finance. Having worked on the East Coast (NE, NY, FL), while ND doesn’t place at the level of your top top schools, it certainly is a bigger draw than Michigan. I’m from the East Coast myself, and although I acknowledge UM’s relative academic superiority in engineering, I think the prestige of an ND degre is palpably greater out here.”</p>
<p>Absolute nonsense. Ross>>Mendoza for finance. You are not from NYC. Ross is a target school for IBanks. Try posing this statement over at the CC business majors section and watch what happens.</p>
<p>^^^Actually I decided to do it myself. The responses should be interesting.</p>
<p>Absolute nonsense? Ok, you’re right, I totally made the whole thing up. Lollerskates, my friend. I never said that Ross wasn’t a “target” school for NY banks, just that it simply didn’t have the draw of Mendoza. To say that Ross >> Mendoza is simply not backed up by historical recruiting practices and I challenge you to disprove that. Furthermore, I never said i was ‘from’ NYC, simply that I worked there for two years. Goldman Sachs, maybe you’ve heard it? If you have some relevant personal experience to share, I’m sure we’d all appreciate it.</p>
<p>I am not an expert on business like you think you are Veritas24. This is the engineering forum. Like I said, I suggest you start a thead about this on the CC section of business majors. I have read enough posts on CC that would totally dispute your claim that Ross doesn’t have the draw of Mendoza.</p>
<p>rjkofnovi- you seem to have a dog in the fight. I don’t. My brother goes to ND, and I’m happy for him, but it really makes no difference to me whether you or OP or a bunch of randos on CC decides that Ross > Mendoza for finance. From my experience a.) working 2 years for Goldman in NY, b.) 1 year PE in Boston, and c.) now working for the largest renewable energy company in the Western Hemisphere, it has been my experience that ND is more highly recruited than Michigan by these companies. I believe the description for the separation I originally used and now reiterate was “palpably greater”. I understand that this is an engineering forum, but it might surprise you to know that a whole bunch of people start college as engineers, but after the first semester or two decide they’d rather be…you guessed it, business/econ majors. What people choose to do with my opinion is up to them. But I know I would have benefited from someone talking to me about life-after-college so I try to do the same for those making college decisions. To bring it back to engineering, as I said, “Michigan probably has a stronger engineering program”. But there are, of course, other factors to take into account.</p>
<p>“I understand that this is an engineering forum, but it might surprise you to know that a whole bunch of people start college as engineers, but after the first semester or two decide they’d rather be…you guessed it, business/econ majors.”</p>
<p>I do realize that. Another reason why the OP should attend Michigan>ND.</p>
<p>Veritas, my friend’s uncle is an associate-level overseer at Lazard who had worked at GS for a good decade or so, and when I talked to him about picking an undergraduate business school, he told me that Ross has a larger presence in recruiting.</p>
<p>Its funny that you should pick Michigan and Notre Dame due to them being arch rivals. The opinions on this forum are just turning into an arguement between U of M supporters and Notre Dame … both are gonna try and convince you their side is better without giving you much help. if you look at the rankings you will see that U of M is a much better engineering school then Notre dame and it would definetly be a good school to go to. I know you said that you narrowed it down to those two but have you ever considered others. The University of Minnesota - Twin cities is ranked number three for chemical engineering and if your looking for value depending where you live ( you could be eligible for the MSEP tuition rate) it costs about $15,000 for tuition out of state compared to Michigan and Notre dame which is going to be much higher … again depending where you live. The fact is though if you are going for Chemical engineering Michigan is the better school by far and if you still are keeping your options open you might want to consider say a school like Minnesota, the twin cities are awsome by the way.</p>
<p>Some stuff about Michigan (I have a pro Michigan bias)</p>
<p>Changing majors from engineering is quite easy as long as you don’t get below a 2.0. It you do, you’ll need to improve (in you non-engineering classes) before you can transfer out. Otherwise it’s pretty much a free pass into most programs.</p>
<p>Michigan Engineering and CS is generally much better than ND in my opinion.</p>
<p>South Bend is okay, but I like Ann Arbor better.</p>
<p>The undergraduate business degree at Michigan seems a bit weak to me. The MBA program is great. No clues about NDs programs. That said, Industrial and Operations Engineering at Michigan is a good way to go if you want to do engineering with a strong bit of business education. </p>
<p>On the whole, cost being equal, I have to recommend Michigan.</p>