<p>oooo boy, not again.....here comes posterx to wreck the day.</p>
<p>PosterX,</p>
<p>I guess you havn't checked in a while. Connecticut isn't even the wealthiest state in the country, New Jersey is.</p>
<p>lol...dirty jersey?....im jk....</p>
<p>Connecticut relies upon Fairfield County for its amazing wealth. Fairfield county should be its own state..haha. Without Fairfield county, Connecticut would be no where near the top of the highest per capita list. No county in America is as wealthy as Fairfield county.</p>
<p>Jags, you are clearly looking at out of date numbers. Here are the most recent figures out there.</p>
<p>Per Capita Income: 2000 Census data
1. Connecticut – $28,766
2. New Jersey – $27,006
3. Massachusetts – $25,952
4. Maryland – $25,614
5. Colorado – $24,049 </p>
<p>Personal per capita income, US Census 2000 (2005 reported)
1. Connecticut – $43,173
2. New Jersey – $40,427
3. Massachusetts – $39,815
4. Maryland – $37,331
5. New York – $36,574 </p>
<p>States ranked by number of places with per capita incomes above national average (Census)
1. Connecticut 82.8%
2. New Jersey 76.4%
3. Massachusetts 73.6% </p>
<p>Per capita personal income (dollars) 2006, Bureau of Economic Indicators - U.S. Federal Government
1. Connecticut $49,852<br>
2. New Jersey $46,344<br>
3. Massachusetts $45,877<br>
4. Maryland $44,077<br>
5. New York $42,392 </p>
<p>Median Household Income 2006, Census Bureau (not the most commonly used measure, but the one in which NJ is closest to CT)
<a href="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8E6LMO00&show_article=1%5B/url%5D">http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8E6LMO00&show_article=1</a>
1. Connecticut, $56,409
2. New Jersey $56,356</p>
<p>List of States where all counties within the State report child poverty rates of less than 10%
1. Connecticut
(there are no others)</p>
<p>There are many more - most with even larger gaps between Connecticut and all the other states - but I won't bother to post them.</p>
<p>I really wish I had as much free time as you have PosterX...anyway, back to thesis.</p>
<p>hey i just read your thread and i wanted to say.. having chosen between great schools, but going against my instinct and choosing a "better" name (both schools were in the top 15... ha)... you have instincts for a reason and you should go with them. undergrad is not AS important as people think namewise because an undergrad degree won't get you anywhere... if you want to get down to names... wait til grad school... then choose the HYP over Vandy or something like that... but for real... i went against my instinct and I'd had a very hard time at my HYP school ( i wont say which one :-)) It is a FABULOUS school... but something just hasn't clicked for me... and I think I even knew that when I was applying... i was never one of those ivy-or-bust kids... and i very much regret now doing what i thought i was supposed to do vs. what i felt was right. You can't explain or rationalize instincts... but they're there. and sometimes it's those completely inexplicable gut feelings that are the most important. either way you will be fine and probably happy...and if not.. transfer!</p>
<p>You can transfer to ND; you can't transfer to Yale (well, you can, but they only take a couple out of about a thousand who try)</p>
<p>That means nothing.</p>
<p>The fact Yale has the lowest transfer accept rate in America actually does say something. It says A) that Yale is more desirable than just about any other school, and B) that people at Yale stay there and end up graduating. The transfer acceptance rate is only that low because nobody ever decides to leave -- because they all love it so much. At other schools, a large number of students transfer away or drop out. That's why you can get in as a transfer.</p>
<p>Actually it doesnt say that Yale is a more desirable school. At all...how can a person with your intelligence get into Yale is beyond me. They must take some underqualified applicants or something.</p>
<p>posterX, you are trying to make us believe that Yale is the greatest place on earth, but now anyone who has read this thread feels a kind of embarassment for Yale because of your ignorant ramblings.</p>
<p>danbrenn,</p>
<p>I think most people have enough intelligence to separate one poster from a school. Not sure how posting statistics on the wealth of Connecticut matters in this discussion for a number of reasons:</p>
<ul>
<li>There are a good number of students at ND from CT</li>
<li>There is a majority of students at Yale from outside CT</li>
<li>This is not a discussion about what is best based upon some ranking scheme but what is best for the original poster based upon a number of inputs</li>
</ul>
<p>Posterx was providing a number of reasons to choose Yale early in the discussion. He has since started posting irrelevant stats that generate more heat than light. I would suggest that we do as Irish suggested and read the reasoned opinions on the Yale board on this same topic. Many of which suggested that the OP go to ND. At the end of the day, the OP needs to make a reasoned decision and I would prefer that we stay on topic. I am sure they have enough discernment to sort the facts based upon what has been posted. They can not make a wrong decision and I wish them luck.</p>
<p>Eagle those stats have little to do with the discussion here; they were just a response to another poster's claim. If you want my input on the discussion you have to go back to the early parts of the thread.</p>
<p>"Eagle those stats have little to do with the discussion here; they were just a response to another poster's claim. If you want my input on the discussion you have to go back to the early parts of the thread."</p>
<p>-No one really values your input anyway, so you persistent Jibber-Jabbish on this thread is not only annoying but not needed. You are basically useless. Leave.</p>
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The fact Yale has the lowest transfer accept rate in America actually does say something. It says A) that Yale is more desirable than just about any other school, and B) that people at Yale stay there and end up graduating. The transfer acceptance rate is only that low because nobody ever decides to leave -- because they all love it so much. At other schools, a large number of students transfer away or drop out. That's why you can get in as a transfer.
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<p>So you don't accept transfers, whoopty doo. Princeton doesn't accept any, I guess they are better. ND's retention rate is right up there with any Ivy, so the same arguments can be made for ND. The difference is that ND has the first year of studies which results in more transfer openings (long story, I can get into it if anyone cares).</p>
<p>Just remember that Princeton is better than Yale...it comes from your own logic.</p>
<p><a href="http://newsinfo.nd.edu/content.cfm?topicid=25%5B/url%5D">http://newsinfo.nd.edu/content.cfm?topicid=25</a>
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Notre Dame's graduation rate of 95 percent is exceeded by only Harvard and Princeton.
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It would appear that Yale's graduation rate is lower than Notre Dame's. Funny how that works, especially considering we also have some of the world's best athletes who remain here despite several having the ability to leave early for the professional realm and make a lot of money.</p>
<p>Hmmm, let's analyze this data:
1) Some athletes do leave early. This affects ND a lot more than Yale since ND's athletes are a lot better.
2) The logical conclusion from the above is that, in order to come out ahead numerically, ND's non-athletic population must have a graduation rate above 95%, further increasing the gap between Yale and Notre Dame.
3) If this is the case, then ND's students must be more satisfied with their school than Yale's students.</p>
<p>Both are excellent schools....just leave it at that.</p>
<p>Posterx,</p>
<p>Yes, your early posts provided stats that could help inform a decision. However, there was a dramatic turn at post 99 where you made a reference out of the blue to UConn and then you turned it farther away from the topic of discussion by citing stats about residents of CT.</p>
<p>References to NMS students is helpful but it is also important to look at outcomes. Using sports as a metaphor, there are many McDonalds All-Americans in basketball that are busts in college. There are also players that are virtually unrecruited who become all-stars and league MVPs in major Division 1 programs.</p>
<p>When talking about stats it is important to remember that the average SAT score at ND is about 1400, top 2%. While Yale's average score is higher we are talking about students in the same class academically . . . at least according to SAT scores.</p>
<p>Further, since Yale's overall class is smaller than NDs, if you eliminate the bottom 25% of the incoming ND class SAT wise (taking a class of 2000 class down to 1500 like Yale) you would find that the stats are even more comparable between the schools. This is true at many schools, think large well known state schools, only they would eliminate 75% of their incoming class to get to the number in each class at Yale.</p>
<p>Regardless, when all is said and done, it does come down to a gut emotional decision. Shellzie chose ND and has been happy with it. Many at Yale had to make a similar decision and are happy with their decision. If it was me I would look closely at the program(s) of interest to the OP. I suspect that if they wanted to major in Irish Studies ND would be a better school where Yale may be a better school for other things. Though I still don't understand how ND became the "Fighting Irish" when they were founded by a bunch of French missionaries. ;-)</p>
<p>"Though I still don't understand how ND became the "Fighting Irish" when they were founded by a bunch of French missionaries." </p>
<p>hmmm.... maybe one of the current students could help us out with this...</p>
<p>I am sitting in class, so I shouldn't answer this, but I am going to give the short answer.</p>
<p>Some papers called our football team the "Fighting Irish" as a slap at the school as the "Fighting Irish" term was derogatory towards Catholics at the time. We decided to embrace it and show that the "Fighting Irish" can be pretty darn good, hence why we are the "Fighting Irish".</p>
<p>There is more to the story, but that is the 30 second version.</p>