<p>^^^ You are really making a fool of yourself with this statement. The fact that these exams are “standardized” does not mean that by any kind of “logical definition” they are fair. All it means is that they are called “standardized”. If you are not aware of the controversies and the fact that at many levels they are considered “discriminatory”, is better for you not to get into that discussion. Just simply state that TO YOU, they are fair. Period. And by the way, I was not asking you to elaborate, but thanks for the try.</p>
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Somebody got low standardized test scores. Maybe that explains why you got rejected from UF and feel this sense of resentment.</p>
<p>Name calling only makes you look immature, and your opinion is just as subjective, albeit incorrect, as tom’s.</p>
<p>^^ An objective opinion is an oxymoron. What comes across as rather immature is your comment above. It is rather presumptuous of you to assume that you know my standardized scores and that I got rejected from UF. You are displaying what is always the silliest attempt to ■■■■■ when someone here has nothing to say.</p>
<p>What don’t you discuss what is wrong with my comment about standardized testing? I indicated why tom’s comment was foolish in my opinion.</p>
<p>^ Whether you got rejected from UF is no concern to me. The point is you are a University of Miami advocate who likes to rip on this flagship university for your own benefit. The point is: the rinky dink private school in Coral Gables has very little substance in comparison to UF and has to resort to going negative. If you compare substance, endowment, alumni prestige, selectivity, faculty strength, research appropriations, graduate & professional programs and you will see that UM does not have a leg to stand on. To be honest UM is having trouble competing with FSU on the graduate & professional level (the only thing you got on them is the Miller School of Medicine).</p>
<p>^^^blah, blah, blah… To regain some credibility you should use the “copy and paste” feature a lot less. Your statements are repetitively embarrassing. Your constant belittling of UM and FSU is evident on each of your ridiculous posts. You hardly ever contribute to this forum unless it is to post some brochure doctored information , and I really could not care less about it. You feel so threatened by any kind of discussion which involves UF that you have created a forum to “gather your troops” so they could go to the other College search forum and argue…Pathetic…</p>
<p>And I do not like to rip your “flagship university” in favor of any other. Just like that great Jack Nicholson phrase…your problem is that “you can not handle the truth”. Grow up.</p>
<p>Why don’t you stick to the debate for once and justify your statement: Here it is for you again:</p>
<p>3.-**The Florida institions that he rated marginal were spot on (Nova, FAU, FIT, FAMU etc…). All of them have lousy graduate programs, tiny endowments, less than stellar undergraduates, and lousy research expenditures… ** The graduate and research issue I already addressed before but… “less than stellar undergraduates students…?” …Would you care to elaborate on that? Minority students (black and hispanics primarily) form the bulk of students attending the schools in question.</p>
<p>“Your constant belittling of UM and FSU is evident on each of your ridiculous posts.”</p>
<p>What are you talking about? </p>
<p>I am extremely fair towards FSU, and will always give UM a proportional response to the venom that is spewed at UF.</p>
<p>Less than stellar undergraduates = not on the level of UF, FSU, and UM. This is a national perspective and may I remind you that Florida Institute of Technology & Florida Atlantic University are primarily caucasian (non-hispanic).</p>
<p>In total FIT has 22,542 total students, of which 17,013 are caucasian.</p>
<p>[Florida</a> Institute of Technology Information, Academics, Admissions, Financial Aid, Students, Athletics, Alumni, History, Campus, Students, Faculty, Address, and Tuition](<a href=“USA University College Directory - U.S. University Directory - State Universities and College Rankings”>Florida Institute of Technology (FIT, Florida Tech) Academics and Admissions - Melbourne, FL)</p>
<p>In total FAU has 17,386 total students, of which 15,690 are caucasian.</p>
<p>[Florida</a> Atlantic University Information, Academics, Admissions, Financial Aid, Students, Athletics, Alumni, History, Campus, Students, Faculty, Address, and Tuition](<a href=“USA University College Directory - U.S. University Directory - State Universities and College Rankings”>Florida Atlantic University (FAU) Introduction and Academics - Boca Raton, FL)</p>
<p>What do you mean by not “on the level”? And there is no need to throw FSU and UM now. They were NOT part of your original statement. I am not following you.</p>
<p>In any case, we are talking about your justification of Machen’s outrageous ranking of the rest of the state schools in Florida which are competing for the same funds as UF. ** He rated more Florida schools as “marginal” (the lowest possible category) than schools from all other states combined **. Academics and journalists are really having a problem with this. But I guess, you don’t, do you?</p>
<p>Myopinion, all of your posts are opinionated and often incorrect. At least SSobick has some justification in his analysis. </p>
<p>You just spew whatever comes out of your misinformed head.</p>
<p>Seriously, your posts are a joke.</p>
<p>“Answer the question”</p>
<p>I thought I just did…</p>
<p>“He rated more Florida schools as “marginal” (the lowest possible category) than schools from all other states combined”</p>
<p>I also stand by Machen’s rankings for the Florida institions (however UF should of been ranked strong and not distinguished). Obviously some Floridians do not agree with his assessment, but I would argue that they are stuck in a bubble and only view things with their own populist perspective. Clearly from a national perspective one will see that Machen was pretty darn close to the actual Peer Assessment Scores from last year. </p>
<p>BTW: bclintonk’s research backs him up almost 100%.</p>
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<p>I am not sure what you’re trying to infer by your pointless question, but, here is some information about UF’s graduation statistics:</p>
<p>“The University of Florida is ranked second overall in the United States for the total number of bachelor’s degrees awarded to African Americans, and third overall for Hispanics. The university ranks fifth overall in total number of doctoral degrees awarded to African Americans, and second overall for Hispanics, and third overall in total number of professional degrees awarded to African Americans, and second overall for Hispanics.”</p>
<p>My Opinion- you say standardized tests are unfair because you say there are. Yes, I am aware that some demagogs and hucksters try to paint the tests as unfair, but there us really no evidence of that. They aren’t 100% fair but they are the most fair benchmark available and are waaaay more fair than grades. In fact, as I understand, the entire argument against these tests being racially bias stems from 1 single question form ~20 years ago where an SAT analogy expected the test taker to know what an oresman and a regatta were. OK, even if that was a bad question (I disagree), then 1 single question doesn’t invalidate an entire genre of exams. If your argument stems from minorities scoring lower than whites, etc then perhaps the issue isn’t with the exams, rather with the educational system coupled with other social factors that lead to a sub standard education being highlighted by the exams? Maybe the SAT should be used as a tool to identify educational weaknesses? Just a thought… </p>
<p>By the way, I see how you argue- you throw out an opinion and when someone disputes it, you result to ad homonym attacks and offer no proof or counterargument. Ugh- I don’t know you so I’m not sure if somewhere along the way you just weren’t taught how to argue, you chose to use pseudo-intellectual argumentation or if you’re just not capable of constructing a cogent argument. I guess in the end, it doesn’t matter though as your words speak volumes. For what it is worth, if you ever do take the GMAT or LSAT- your lines or reason wil fail miserably and there is no way you will score above 33%tile, so I do understand your resentment of Standardized Exams to a large extent.</p>
<p>Just ignore MyOpinion and hopefully he will go away. He has already lost all respect.</p>