NY Times op-ed: Mishandling Rape

<p>This Jackie story sounds like a classic cases of targeting with her all over the moon about being asked on a date by Drew. There is just so much wrong with all of this it’s hard to know where to start. So, I’ll just say that treating these college women like real women and giving them the responsibilities to make real life choices could be a bad idea. Some of them just aren’t capable. They are lacking experience in a big way.</p>

<p>yes. They clearly have no idea of how to deal with animals and rapists.</p>

<p>it is rather difficult to prepare your daughter to go off into a world of gang rapists who also use coke bottles. We do our best.</p>

<p>I mean, treating these college age men like real men and giving them the responsibilities to make real life choices could be a bad idea. Some of them just aren’t capable. They seem to be unable to control themselves, for one thing, and they can’t seem to tell the difference between criminal violence and a party.</p>

<p>That’s part of the problem, CF, if that is the logic the college is using in not warning young women about frat houses. By this premise, to them it is more of a threat to their legal standing to warn incoming freshmen about potentially more dangerous places on campus than it is to allow women to be raped on their campus. That is a huge part of what needs to change. There are many 18 y.o’s who need more information. A warning about frat houses is good information for those students. A college being more concerned with frivolous lawsuits is not acting in good faith. Things need to be turned around so that they instead see their legal liability when they fail to prevent injury to students as a bigger threat.</p>

<p>Poetgirl, I don’t disagree that some of the men/boys are no smarter. And, everyone’s drunk. These cases range from confusion to criminality. It’s just a mess. </p>

<p>On the other hand, I was please to see that as usual these days at the protests against rapists and bad university rape policy, there were a lot of men with the women, just as outraged. This is one thing that pleases me, how many men are just as appalled these days by rape as women. </p>

<p>I wonder if they will resume greek life at UVA in the spring semester. I bet not. I think it’s still closed at Clemson and WVU. </p>

<p>Oh boy…</p>

<p><a href=“UVA Dean Admits School Doesn't Expel People Who Have Admitted to Rape”>http://jezebel.com/uva-dean-admits-school-doesnt-expel-people-who-have-adm-1662615787&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Have a look at [url=&lt;a href=“http://jezebel.com/uva-dean-admits-school-doesnt-expel-people-who-have-adm-1662615787]this[/url”&gt;UVA Dean Admits School Doesn't Expel People Who Have Admitted to Rape]this[/url</a>]. UVa doesn’t expel people who commit sexual assaults, even when they admit they committed sexual assaults!</p>

<p>xpost with dstark</p>

<p>I have not watch ed this video yet.</p>

<p>Going to…</p>

<p><a href=“Page Not Found”>http://vimeo.com/user20932862/review/112529177/b57f3948c3&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>CF… :)</p>

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<p>If a college (or anyone) warns students about a serious hazard that they control, but does nothing to ameliorate the hazard, and then someone gets injured and sues, that is not a frivolous lawsuit. I’m pretty sure it’s close to a slam dunk.</p>

<p>There you have it folks. </p>

<p>you rape a girl? Go sit in the corner and talk to the mean lady for an hour.</p>

<p>You plagiarize one paragraph at UVA and you are expelled.</p>

<p>We see where rape falls on the honor code.</p>

<p>Any school that still has students helping to adjudicate rape violations needs to be closed since it is clearly being run by a bunch of idiots.</p>

<p>This is the punishment UVA believes a man deserves for raping your daughter. </p>

<p>Nothing </p>

<p>You plagiarize a paper at UVa, and admit it: good bye, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.</p>

<p>You rape a woman and admit it: oh you poor thing, thanks for admitting you’re a rapist. No punishment necessary.</p>

<p>Again, CF, to clarify, I was responding to your post, in which you expressed concern that the college would be legally liable to a particularly clean fraternity by issuing a warning about fraternities in general. I went on to make a distinction between that liability, and the liability of a student injury. To your point about the college then going on to do nothing, that is exactly why, once they have warned, they need to turn around and show some serious attempts to make things better, the warning being only one small step in that process.</p>

<p>I’m really stunned. </p>

<p>She’s fired. Today. Hand in your resignation. </p>

<p>Why would they warn the girls. Apparently at UVA as long as you admit you raped a girl, you are free to go. </p>

<p>Why fire her, when she is just administering the UVa policy of rape enabling? The Cossacks work for the Czar. She carries out policy. She doesn’t make policy.</p>

<p>That right there is the sound of the delete button being hit on the UVA app in houses all over America. </p>

<p>I’d like to note that the fact that UVa never ever expels rapists has been brought to the attention of the UVa administration before. The Cossacks work for the Czar. We need to blame the people at the top, who have done nothing to change this policy.</p>

<p>Eramo’s logic is something to behold. If an accused attacker doesn’t admit he did it, well, we’re not sure he did it, we can’t possibly expel him. And if he does admit it, well, he must be remorseful, we can’t possibly expel him.</p>

<p>Tens of students get expelled from UVa every year for lying, cheating and stealing. Some have admitted it, some not. But heaven forfend UVa throw out an accused rapist.</p>

<p>I watched the video. The interviewer was excellent.</p>

<p>I do think the woman being interviewed may be a very nice person.</p>

<p>UVA has a mess on its hands. </p>

<p>My guess is the woman is going to lose her job. I think the president of the campus has to go.</p>

<p>Zero expulsions.</p>

<p>There are known rapists walking around that campus.</p>

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