NYT "At Binghamton, Division I Move Brings Recognition and Regret"

<p>Here’s a new article from the Sports Illustrated site:</p>

<p>[Delaware</a>, Binghamton lost their way<em>by expanding hoops</em>programs - Jeff Pearlman - SI.com](<a href=“http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jeff_pearlman/03/05/college.programs/]Delaware”>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jeff_pearlman/03/05/college.programs/)</p>

<p>I should say that my son is rather enjoying this mess because Binghamton rejected him (despite being top 10% of his class, the school guidance folks still can’t figure out why, probably they were looking for in-state people with lesser qualifications). Does anyone know how this has affected their applications this year? Did they have less OOS applications? Is it easier for in-state to get in?</p>

<p>Here’s a quote from the article:</p>

<p>Well, the rise-from-obscurity part was right. Across America, everyone knows Binghamton – as a place you would send your kids to only if DeVry and the Coastal College Truck Driving School fall through.</p>

<p>I am surprised that no one posted last week’s followup article from the NY Times:</p>

<p>[At</a> Binghamton, Concerns That Sports Are Still the Focus - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/sports/ncaabasketball/28binghamton.html?scp=1&sq=binghamton&st=cse]At”>http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/28/sports/ncaabasketball/28binghamton.html?scp=1&sq=binghamton&st=cse)</p>

<p>One snippet:</p>

<p>… one player received 16 transfer credits for physical education courses; another received 12 credits. They should have been limited to two physical education credits, the report said.</p>

<p>This scandal is a stain on the reputation of my alma mater. But does anyone really think this doesn’t happen anywhere else in Div I sports?!!</p>

<p>In general it’s the student body that makes a good college. So I would say that Binghamton is still a good school…because of the students! It’s those students who pay the price and who I feel sorry for. The administration however is a disaster…DeFleur without a doubt, admissions is another disaster area, last year residence life too. Still the school remains popular although people I know have chosen to stay away and a few are leaving via transfers to the other 3 Universities.</p>

<p>Those of you who think what happened in basketball has nothing to do with academics should consider things more closely. If the investigation report is correct, many people in top positions were involved in unethical and rule violating activities. The basketball difficulties stem from the fact that these administrators are dishonest and unethical, not the other way around. Basketball did not make them unethical. Their unethical behavior caused problems in basketball. Even if things improved a little when the President leaves, do you think all the others involved will suddenly become ethical and honest? A good step would be if all those involved in unethical conduct left but that is not happening. In my opinion, the basketball players were treated like commodities by the administration. They knew that the players they were recruiting could not survive at Binghamton but they did not care what happened to the players as long as they sucked out of them what they wanted-top rankings. If I were a student, I would wonder about that kind of conduct.</p>

<p>Let me start with this: I am not proud of the actions of the Basketball team and its associated departments, nor am I trying to defend them. Binghamton, like every other school, especially public ones, has many flaws. In fact, I will probably be transferring next year. But many of you apparently registered for the sole reason of posting these articles. Honestly, it seems like quite a few people that have posted in this thread (especially those who have posted or even created multiple threads on the same topic) are those with a vendetta against Binghamton – whether it is because you were rejected, or you just don’t like Kevin Broadus; maybe you just don’t like SUNY schools. Whatever the reason is, many of you are reading way too far into this.</p>

<p>Truthfully, sounds like 13902 got rejected (maybe his or her son/daughter was)…13902 is the area code for Binghamton, for those of you who don’t know.</p>

<p>I never noticed anyone, whether they were a TA, a professor, an adviser, an administrator or whoever, being so unethical that it affected me. Of course students cheat and whatnot, that happens at every school thought – you make it sound like Binghamton is the modern day equivalent of Kowloon Walled City. Binghamton is not Gommorah, I do not bribe my professors for grades, steal notes from others, or any other ridiculous inferences that some people are making due to recent events. Maybe it is just me, but this seems pretty confined to the athletic department – specifically the basketball team, as you know. Just because their is some admittedly disgraceful and (frankly) embarrassing practices going on in the athletic department, doesn’t mean the rest of the school is now worthless. This is the exact definition of a hasty generalization logical fallacy. </p>

<p>I don’t know your situation 13902. Maybe you were rejected by Bing. Maybe even you were rejected, and then your offspring followed in your footsteps – also getting rejected. Maybe you were just a janitor who was fired recently and has some pent-up frustration. But if you seriously think that the flaws of the basketball team are a reflection of the entire school, I have no idea what to say to you. </p>

<p>What, 15,000 students go to Bing? Probably near 1000 professors, plus countless administration, clerical, janitorial, and other staff. Maybe 30, 40 people are involved in this basketball thing? Even if it was 200, that is less than .01% of the school’s population. To make a generalization about the entire school on .01% of the population seems pretty ridiculous to me.</p>

<p>Am I upset that this is happening at my school? Yes. Is this an embarrassment, and will it severely tarnish our basketball team’s reputation? Yes, most likely. But do I think the comments by some posters are not just asinine but complete stretches, often involving embellished statements…or in some cases, outright lies? Definitely.</p>

<p>Actually, I am embarrassed that I even have to point this out to some people. Not to be particularly rude, but if those of you that are making it a point to campaign against Binghamton are in fact rejected students…well, maybe your rejection is for the best. We don’t need any other embarrassing students.</p>

<p>Misterbill: Sorry, meant to answer your question (at least, to the best of my ability :slight_smile: ) in my long-winded post :o </p>

<p>I’m not sure how these recent events have affected applications, but I can say that in general there has been a large increase in applications to Bing (good public school + economic downturn = increase in people trying to go there). As such, the average grades/SATs (how did your son do? He may have been top 10%, but if he did poorly on his SAT it could have been a large contributing factor) have gone up. I am unsure if OOS applications have gone up or down, and I am also unsure if in-state gets a preference. I can see in-state getting a preference as it is a public school, but at the same time I can see OOS getting preference due to diversity reasons (not to mention the increased tuition prices).</p>