NYTimes: Boston University grade deflation

<p>Send me your bank records first.</p>

<p>"If the grades are undeserved, you don't think the consequences are negative for the students and professional/graduate schools as well as the schools."</p>

<p>Oh, no, just the opposite. Prof. schools especially LOVE to report higher GPAs among their applicants and their acceptances; it makes them look better without lifting a finger! AND it makes it easier to accept legacies and wealthy folks without feeling they have to justify themselves - they can just rely on the letters of recommendation from the senator on the appropriations committee. It's a win-win for everyone!</p>

<p>Mini, not to go ad hominem, but you are a riot. :)</p>

<p>You can send me your bank records, too. ;)</p>

<p>Do you also want my phone records? Very boring.. but, "de gustibus..." and all that. :)</p>

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<p>Perhaps not--but if you know you need decent grades for grad school, etc., and you are getting squeezed by grade deflation, you're going to have to spend more time studying and less time volunteering and playing in the orchestra or whatever it is that you've been doing in addition to your schoolwork. </p>

<p>Not that that in itself is a bad thing...but a university can lack color and depth if it were nothing but a place to study (didn't someone say that a lot of musical people at Reed no longer play their instruments in an orchestra because of the crush of schoolwork?). </p>

<p>PS: not to pick on Reed, but that was the only comment I could remember)</p>

<p>Yes marite, mini's latest posts are quite amusing, raising the Wobegonian philosophic mantra to new heights. Gotta love it.</p>

<p>I said that. The admissions officer we met with at Reed told us pointblank (because my d. was a music major) that 75% of Reed students had played an instrument before they got to Reed, but in a good year, they were lucky to get 30 students in the school orchestra, and could only operate by relying on ringers from the community.</p>

<p>That's not necessarily a bad thing, if that's what a student is looking for. But, personally, I think they'd do better with a little more grade inflation.</p>

<p>We all know that Reed is an un-American place, right?</p>

<p>There are very few social problems that grade inflation couldn't help solve.</p>

<p>That is low? It is above a B average!</p>

<p>Yep, that's why I took my son out of our "success for all" school.</p>

<p>It is not just the grade one gets, but how hard one has to work to get it. Perhaps there should be some sort of agony index to go along with the GPA report that grad schools could use.</p>

<p>Oh, no! The whole point of the leading professional schools is to look like you can do it "effortlessly". Who wants to accept a "gradegrind"?</p>

<p>Harvey Mudd likes to brag about its grade deflation. Only one student has ever graduated with a 4.0 in the entire history of the school. Which I guess is why some people consider it to be a poor pre-med school. Not because you can't learn the chemistry, physics, and biology there that you need for medical school, but because you won't be going anywhere with that all that nice knowledge and a bunch of Bs and Cs on your transcript.</p>

<p>And by doing so, they devalue their own degree.</p>

<p>Some brag. "Our school is so hard, nobody can get into med. school." Just what parents want to hear. ;)</p>

<p>DRab:
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Don't forget about the social sciences . . . they would be offended if clumped within the humanities.

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<p>Well, anything with "science" in the name isn't really a science, is it?</p>

<p><em>dons flameproof suit</em></p>

<p>"Who wants to accept a gradegrind?" That's the point, after suffering to get that high GPA, the student will sail through the professional school making less work for everyone.</p>

<p>Like "physical sciences" and "biological sciences?"</p>

<p>:p</p>

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That is low? It is above a B average!

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<p><a href="http://www.gradeinflation.com/hmudd.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradeinflation.com/hmudd.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Looks like everywhere else. And in "science" and "engineering" no less. ;)</p>

<p>But makes for great cocktail conversation when waiting on-line for a meal at the neighborhood soup kitchen.</p>

<p>"I would have been a doctor," he said, scratching his flea bites, adjusting his bottle-green glasses that were missing one lens, and shrugging his shoulders, "Instead I went to Harvey Mudd. You know, grade deflation...."</p>

<p>"I know how it is," said his friend, his speech slurred, picking at his scabs, and blowing his nose on a page torn out of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason, "I went to Reed."</p>

<p>You are in rare form today, Mini</p>

<p>My d. points out that there is only one sad truth about grade inflation - "unlike monetary inflation, there is only so high you can go."</p>

<p>Gotta start working on that....;)</p>