<p>I live in Georgia (the state), where gay marriage is against the law and the general attitude towards the LGBT community is extremely hostile in many places. In your words, I am “participating in a state” that restricts human rights, and by your logic, I am condoning the continued illegality of gay marriage. This is blatantly false, of course, and therein lies the flaw in your reasoning.</p>
<p>I’m sure that the students and faculty of NYU Abu Dhabi will work towards fostering understanding and acceptance of homosexuality in the Middle East. In the meantime, though, I can’t see droves of LGBT students vying to attend college in a place where they will be discriminated against - can you? If the gay student attending next year chooses to remain celibate (which, if you would use a dictionary, you’d find does not mean “closeting himself”) then all the more power to him, but most LGBT students probably would not choose such a path and as such would probably not choose NYUAD. It’ll be an unfortunate loss, but hopefully one that can be fixed in the future.</p>
<p>I agree laws in the US need to be improved - but gay people are not beaten or put to death in the US as they are in Abu Dhabi - that’s a significant difference - </p>
<p>and NYU should be clear about how it values the LGBT community before embarking on this program - and it should clearly say how it will support the LGBT community that chooses to participate in this program - </p>
<p>since you don’t seem to identify as LGBT, you are a bit willing to right off individual rights. And there is no reason that students shoudl be expected to be celibate - but in this case, it is the only way to survive.</p>
<p>rainbow, thank you for that link. It was very frustrating to think that so few people failed to recognize the paradox of an American University offering a “liberal education” in a country with so much censorship and so many missing human rights. Now I see what I overlooked before - the majority of people posting here are incoming NYUAD students who must defend the campus in order to hide that they sold their own rights for a free “diverse education.” The point that people like notamushroom keep making - that being in an area where human rights are violated does not mean you are condoning them - ignores the fact that, unlike in Georgia (or anywhere in the US), it is illegal to be gay in Abu Dhabi. Discussion about the injustice of the policies CAN take place, and is taking place, here. In Abu Dhabi, the few students who are courageous enough to take on this policy will be sent home or arrested. As the sell-out students on rainbow’s link said themselves, they have to be respectful and follow the absurdly discriminatory “customs” of the UAE - how would we like it if people from Abu Dhabi came here and tried to be DIFFERENT from us?</p>
<p>Unfortunately for the many students attending NYUAD, the lack of human rights for one group implies a more subtle lack of rights for the whole. I wonder how many students in the freshman class will be so frustrated with their ideas and actions being censored or restricted that they don’t come back for another year - or even stay to finish their first.</p>
<p>I guess that there was some dissent expressed about NYU’s involvement in Abu Dhabi in the past. This link responds to an abusive situation in Abu Dhabi. I hope that NYU students do not receive similar treatment. It would be nice to hear what NYU plans to do to avoid any similar reactions towards its students in NYUAD:
[NYU</a> Local ? BREAKING: Sheikh Issa, Brother of Principle NYU Abu Dhabi Backer, Tortures Man in Video](<a href=“NYU Local”>BREAKING: Sheikh Issa, Brother of Principle NYU Abu Dhabi Backer, Tortures Man in Video | by NYU Local | NYU Local)</p>
<p>06-25-2010 | Source: Project Finance
Mubadala is delaying the financing of its $1.5 billion New York University Abu Dhabi PPP pending a recovery in the capital markets. Due to its strong cash position and large deal pipeline, Mubadala is re-evaluating its external funding requirements.
Progress continues on the commercial development of the university. Al-Futtaim/Carillion is the preferred bidder. Citigroup was looking to diversify Mubadala’s funding sources by incorporating the region’s first PPP project bond…
Click here for the complete Project Finance article</p>
<p>I’m Geoff from New Zealand, a country often mistaken for Australia, hope you all know where it is :D</p>
<p>I am hoping to apply for NYUAD for Fall 2011, but I don’t know whether I should apply ED or not… I do know that as an Intl. Student, it is difficult for me to find decent aid in the US, and the idea of merit scholarships being offered by NYUAD is very alluring. All the other schools I want to apply for (HYP, MIT, Stanford, Caltech, Cornell) are all either SC-EA, Binding-ED or Restrictive EA (so I can really only choose one). </p>
<p>My “stats” are:
SAT - 2330 (first/only sitting)
SAT II - 800 x 3 (chem, phys, maths2)
I actually do the A-Level system in NZ. for my IGCSE’s I got 6A*'s and an A, and for AS I got 5 A’s including a Top in NZ in AS German.
I have also done NCEA (our national educational standard) subjects in Year 11 (10th grade) Latin, Year 12 german and year 13 art history. I also passed two scholarships last year, in Calculus and Statistics (scholarships are designed for the top 3% for final-year students).</p>
<p>Have quite a few maths-related awards but only nationally/oceania, i.e. no Intl awards…</p>
<p>But anyway. My parents don’t want me to apply for Financial Aid to NYUAD as they say “being in Abu Dhabi, they will want to offer heaps of money for you to come” - my only concern is that how will they know how much to offer me? I will only attend if I get a full scholarship, but they don’t know that. Are there any admitted students or faculty (I have noticed a few around CB) who can estimate the number of full scholarships awarded?</p>
<p>It’s tough to tell what aid will look like because next year’s class will be bigger, but if it’s anything like this year the majority of students will get loads of help and the non-full rides will be offered to families who have plenty of college cash.</p>
<p>Your “stats” are better than mine and I stumbled in somehow so you would probs be a strong contender</p>
<p>If you apply to NYUAD, definitely also apply for aid, it’s not hard</p>
<p>I feel you on the money though, I get a lot of s*** for going to the highest bidder, but it means a lot to me to spare my parents from college tuition</p>
<p>Yeah, that’s very true… especially as my parents are both unemployed right now!! How much financial aid are you getting?</p>
<p>My mother says “Why apply for aid? No one is going to go to Abu Dhabi unless AD can offer them a huge incentive to take the risk of going to a new startup. They must offer heaps of full rides to lure in top students, or else they’d just go to the US to study”.</p>
<p>By the way, I’m hoping to apply ED as in the Southern Hemisphere school ends at December. That means I can’t compare aid offers from anywhere else where I am applying to (though NYUAD has non-restrictive ED, everywhere else I’m applying to does have restrictive ED, e.g. Stanford/Yale).</p>
<p>My position is this : If I receive an acceptance letter, it will either say “100% fees covered” or it won’t. Because I can’t/won’t apply for Fin. Aid, it might say “50% fees covered”. That would leave me with like $30 000 which means I would have to turn down their offer. As I do want to attend NYUAD, on scholarship, how easy/hard is it to get a full scholarship? i.e. do you know anyone who has gotten one, and if so what were their grades/“stats” like?</p>
<p>Thanks for being so helpful, in isolated NZ I am really struggling to find any information anywhere, esp. as my “regional outreach director” is on temporary leave.</p>
<p>I wasn’t nominated, I just applied to NYU in New York and checked a little box that said “click if you’re interested in NYU in Abu Dhabi”. Then when I’m all nervous about American college decisions I get an email out of the blue about a paid-for trip across the world to check out the school. I just got really really lucky.</p>
<p>The only person I know who doesn’t have their entire situation paid for is someone whose parents make 300k+ish? NYUAD went on and said that everyone attending would be debt-free when they got the degree. I’m pretty sure that aid isn’t based on merit. Like I said, I don’t know if they’re planning on changing any aid, and I hate to say stuff that I don’t know for sure, but speaking from (some) experience I would say that it’s likely that you would get everything covered by the school if you get accepted, especially if your parents are unemployed.</p>
<p>Your mom makes some good points, but if I were you I would apply for financial aid to make sure they consider your whole situation.</p>
<p>Hm… of all those people who got a full ride, how many had purely scholarships? I keep trying to convince my mum that I might get, say, a 60% merit-based scholarship and have the rest 40% paid by the need-based aid, but she is very stubborn in insisting that “If you only get 60% scholarship then why bother going?”</p>
<p>…Mind you, I’m not even sure why they have both merit-based and need-based aid, if getting in is requires top grades to begin with. I thought that was why places like Yale and Princeton did away with merit scholarships (because getting in basically meant you qualified for merit scholarships) and replaced it with need-based aid.</p>
<p>I don’t know how it breaks down, but my acceptance letter said that the school expected no financial contribution from my family, including airfare, room and board, and all that. I’m gonna guess that lots of other kids got the same deal.</p>
<p>Mind you, that article is pro-Yale and is also written by a Yale student… and I have to say, any Uni, be it NYUAD, HYP or something else, talks itself up to draw in applicants. The difference is that students who get in, say, Princeton and NYUAD as I have seen on CC might lean towards NYUAD - given its SAT scores, the students clearly aren’t all rich, spoiled kids either.</p>
<p>@ KiwiKid: Hello! The Kiwi is one of my favorite birds haha.</p>
<p>You’re definitely a strong contender. No worries there :)</p>
<p>As for financial aid, I applied for it. I’m not sure of what the breakdown is but I won’t be paying for anything. I think NYUAD will continue to offer strong FA in general, need based and merit based, in order to encourage people to attend (it was what sealed the deal for me, college is just so expensive now :P). </p>
<p>@rainbowboywonder: Personally, I feel that having NYUAD would help gay rights and just human rights in general. If anything, exposing students from the UAE or other countries where homosexuality is not accepted to students from countries where it is, may open some minds and spark a movement. </p>
<p>Regardless, if you don’t like NYU for NYUAD, you can forget about CMU, Georgetown, Columbia, Texas A&M and Cornell; they all have campuses over there. </p>
<p>Regarding those who said they had a “full ride for all 4 years” - does that mean they have a full merit scholarship?</p>
<p>Because surely that couldn’t be fully based on Financial aid - because you’d have to reapply each year -and this applies to HYP, etc as well. In general, I guess, what happens to financial aid over the years?</p>
<p>Hey!! Im a high school student and i’m considering applying to NYU ad !!! Could you plz guys give some tips about admissions and scores? also about the campus life and the chances to get in??? Thanks</p>
<p>That NYUAD can be compared to HYP is precisely that - HYPe!</p>
<p>Its part of the ruthless strategy by the NYUAD management to plant hypes like this in CC & other sites .
HYP between them have centuries of established glory & experience while NYUAD has 0 years ! I think its criminal to con & lure young kids with free air tickets on Abu Dhabis national carrier (that is flying half empty anyway) into an experimental situation that has known to have failed several times !!</p>
<p>Kids are conned into dumping admissions into well proven educational systems of established universities to join in on an experiment in an insipid city with strict laws on even kissing in public ( let alone LBGT issues!!) , no democracy & populated by laborers from poor countries who spit all over the neat streets. A city devoid of book shops & libraries, devoid of scholars as traders, builders & oilmen are all you see.</p>
<p>NYU AD is playing with the lives of hundreds of students with a LAC situation that has no experience at all. UAE on the other hand has lots of experience with regards to US universities in the region - </p>
<p>@ Trueambition, read the beginning to end of this thread, it should answer most your questions as well as give you good links to news articles.</p>
<p>But essentially, chances to get in are quite low, some 2% were accepted, and the 75th Percentile SAT scores in Maths are 780 and in CR 770. The 50th %ile’s are 715 and 740, according to the NY Times, but this isn’t even on the NYUAD website so I"m not sure about those ones.</p>
<p>@Amalag - good pun, i’ll give you that, but the whole point of NYUAD being “0” years old is that it’s a new look at Intl. Education which is pioneering and therefore unique. GMU, MSU both closed because a) they appealed mainly to Emiratis, few of which attended b) they had not enough interest, because c) their degrees weren’t that good, even in the US. NYUAD doesn’t suffer from any of those (the mass of applications should prove that).</p>
<p>I just think if people don’t want to attend NYUAD, they should keep it to themselves.</p>
<p>@kiwikid - experimentation is always ‘pioneering & unique’ . The over-simplistic set of reasons you have have offered like some expert in international education is a nice example of something you should keep to yourself. The mass of applications just prove one thing - The hype is working ! Why else would US kids with such high scores opt to be in an aluminum shed half way across the world and struggle to stay awake to ‘attend classes’ in the US via video conferencing ??!! first year retention rates will tell us the real story. That ‘mass of applications’ then to transfer out will prove things - not these current figures. Ch eap tricks like free air tickets cant hold sway for more than a year !</p>
<p>While the idea is appealing -it is great to study humanities & the arts at exotic settings it may not work with subjects that need labs & other paraphernalia that takes years to accumulate, install & equip. The idea is great if the aim is to provide a US style LCA college for students from Asia, Middle East & EU countries studying arts & humanities</p>
<p>Also like someone had posted earlier in a CC thread ( perhaps even this one): Why on earth would Abu Dhabi fund a college like this if their own kids cant attend it? ( given the SAT cutoff score, no UAE kid will match that ). UAE kids will be given lenient admission requirements and they will pull the class down - this seems unavoidable. Are US kids then are props to create the right environment for UAE kids, brought by the Abu Dhabi Govt.? These are factors that one can ignore only at g reat risk to one’s self. Chances that this too can goof up to wind up like 4 others before are far higher than the chances that NYUAD would go become a runaway success in churning out great minds & brilliant global citizens! </p>
<p>Its a noble idea no doubt but within a certain domain. Its fraught with fault lines that should not be ignored, trivialized, wished away or concealed from those applying and accepting admissions lured by the hype. That is all i am saying - get real !!</p>
. I think that’s why they’re not offering Biomed as a major, and only a few types of Engineering (like computer systems). I’m personally studying math, so it doesn’t affect me as much, but I do wonder how subjects like physics or chemistry will be taught. Though, given the NYUAD funding source, I’m sure they won’t be short-handed.</p>
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This I disagree with. It’s in Abu Dhabi’s interests to increase its human resources - right now, it sits atop a heck of a lot of Oil but the only foreigners (to generalise) that are there are labourers. AD needs to draw talented students to study at ther university - just like how HYP all want international students too - because we offer new ideas, new viewpoints, new cultures etc. NYUAD takes it to the next step, in forming an “international university”. The incoming class only has like 25% of middle eastern descent, not just UAE, and that should show how the AD govt did not fix a quota or anything (Emiratis make up just 5%). AD wants to become an “ideas capital”, and the only way they can do it is by encouraging people to come to an otherwise “dull” country.</p>