<p>Just to confirm the point, here is the 10 most expensive college list from CNN. NYU is not even on the list, neither is any Ivy or other high ranked private research university. Most of the schools seem to be LACs.</p>
<p>My point was VALUE, not cost. NYU, in terms of value, is a rip-off. It's an excellent school, don't get me wrong. But not a wise expenditure of money.</p>
<p>Everybody has their own opinions in terms of value. Spikemom, I do believe NYU is a "wise expenditure of money", especially when considering Stern/Tisch. As for cost, NYU is quite expensive, there's no refuting that.</p>
<p>Is it expensive? YES. Are they bad with financial aid? YES.</p>
<p>However, I have learned more at NYU in the past semester than I have in my entire life thus far- I'm in Tisch drama and the program at NYU plus living in the city is worth any amount of money- I wouldn't trade it for anything. So, I guess it depends on what you want to get out of NYU- to me, it is WAY worth it.</p>
<p>spikemom, why are you so concerned? If you don't think that NYU is worth it then don't send your kid there. If you think it's a rip off so be it, evidently you're not looking for a discussion. B-itching and moaning doesn't do anything.</p>
<p>heat24, I responded to the OP's question, why do people think NYU is expensive. Some people here have given reasons why they think it is not expensive, some say it is expensive but well worth it, and I am one who feels it is both expensive and IMHO not worth it. I'm not telling people not to go to NYU, I'm expressing my opinion on the question. And DS was interested in NYU and I told him he would have to explain to me why it is $25K per year better than UToronto. (I also said this about GWU, just to get a few more people riled up) DS is a smart kid, studied the issue, and agreed with me. He will come out of college owing NO money and I can probably help him with grad school.</p>
<p>Spikemom, I happen to agree with you and I have a child at NYU and another one at U of T. :) My D who is at NYU is at Tisch, and although I truly believe that it is worth what we are paying for her to attend, I would have a serious problem paying NYU prices for something other than Tisch or Stern. It would just not be good value for money, in my opinion. Tisch and Stern are both top schools in their respective fields and thus, worth the ridiculous cost. My D who is at U of T is not pursuing either drama or business and thus, the savings are such that grad school will easily be covered in the savings, if that's the route she decides to take.</p>
<p>It isn't even ONLY a $$ issue in the comparison. Being familiar with both schools has shown how similar they are in many respects with U of T exceeding NYU in many areas. It's a personal choice as to where kids want to go and how much their families are willing to pay but I truly think that the Canadian schools are a bargain, considering not only the costs but also the excellent quality of education received. Good luck to your son, by the way, did he decide on a U of T college? :)</p>
<p>I think it also depends on what you are going to the school for. If there is a specific program that is really strong an NYU, then it is definitely wortht it. If you are applying for any of the acting programs or the film and tv programs, it is most definitely worth the price as NYU is one of the best for those areas. Not sure about more academic areas they are strong in, but I think it all depends on what you plan on studying. </p>
<p>For example, my sister applied to Columbia, Stanford, Georgetown and Univ of VA (ranked num 2 or 3 public univ) and some safety schools too. Well she got accepted to all of them, but chose UVA because she was undecided and UVA is still a great school, so why pay for an expensive univ if you don't know what you want to major in?</p>
<p>For a school that seems to have no campus, it is too expensive. When I was at Stanford, I really enjoyed the architecture, gardens, and the huge beautiful athletic complex. Northwestern has a beautiful lagoon and a nice huge lakefront area for outdoor activities. I consider those are part of what I paid for. But that's just my personal opinion.</p>
<p>do you want to explain to me why UofT is worth the extra costs over Oxbridge? Would you appreciate it if someone from Oxbridge termed UofT as a "rip-off in terms of value"?</p>
<p>Sam Lee...you're paying for the property? Do you realize how much real estate in Manhattan costs? The buildings are what cost the school money(NYU is a full service school-with a huge athletic complex, library, etc), the land is what the schools have already owned for years and what costs them very little to maintain relative to everything else. NYU is a lot about location, Stanford is not so much. If you want a big campus you have to sacrifice a prime location and go up to Columbia.</p>
<p>Thank you DCH for the question. I look foward to the answer. Calling an education a rip-off is an extremely cheap shot and the person that labels it as a rip-off obviously has no valid argument besides labeling it as a rip-off. Go start your own website about UofT (which has no prestige whatsover where I live) if you love it so much.</p>
<p>Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Reacting like you're doing, heat24, is not the best way to make your point. Although I didn't use the term "rip-off", I do happen to agree that it's a very expensive school, as, it seems, do all of you. I have a child who is a junior at NYU's most expensive college so I know all too well how much it's costing me! :) Making derogatory remarks about U of T isn't the best way to express your argument now, is it? I'd be interested to know how informed you are about U of T. If you have an informed argument to make, please do! </p>
<p>I can tell you that they are very similar schools in many ways. I'm very familiar with both schools so I can say that, in all honesty. Your last comment, while perhaps understandable because spikemom may have challenged your soon to be college, wasn't exactly a mature way to handle the discussion. To say that U of T has no prestige shows that you know little about the school. Let's try to keep the tone of the discussion mature and reasoned, shall we? :)</p>
<p>I've only met students who attend UofT and they told me that it's more of a commuter school that anything else. I'm just basing it off of my personal experiences here in the US where hardly anyone has heard of it. I digress...</p>
<p>Not sure where you are in the U.S. but as someone who has lived in major cities in both countries, for many years, I can assure you that, although many 17 year olds may not be familiar with it, the business world, the academic world, the legal world, the banking world, etc. are very familiar with U of T. It is considered the top university in Canada and has an excellent reputation. :)</p>
<p>It is not a commuter school. Most Canadian universities guarantee residence for all first year students. Usually after second year, students get apartments and/or houses together. Every Canadian school I'm familiar with has a student housing area surrounding it, U of T included, where landlords traditionally rent to students. This is how it's done and these students shouldn't be considered commuters. A commuter student is generally thought to be one who is living at home with his/her parents and commuting to school on a daily basis. Just as an example, my D who is at NYU lives further from the campus in the Water St. dorm than ANY of the U of T student housing area.</p>
<p>Anyway, just thought I'd post that so that you'd know. The costs at Canadian schools are kept low because they are all public universities which are heavily subsidized by Canadian taxpayers. Funding comes from general tax revenues and students pay probably less than a third of the actual cost of their education. International students pay higher fees but still much lower than for an equivalent school in the U.S. This funding system is typical of the way of life in Canada. It's more equitable in many ways.</p>
<p>In any case, I hope that all of you who got into NYU E.D. spend the necessary time completing the FAFSA in accurate detail so that you are able to get the best possible aid. Get it in on time and complete it properly.</p>
<p>As stated in my post, that was my personal feeling and opinion. I personally value schools that seem to have real campus. Schools that are located in the middle of the city like NYU with students walking side by side with other local residents and workers look like some night/commuter schools and seem to lack school spirit and sense of community. I have visited NYC many times and I like the city a lot. However, NYC is a very expensive city for most working professionals, let alone a student wondering about its cost. NYC has a lot to offers (Broadway shows, good clubs, and fine food) but most of them cost quite a bit more than what a typical student is willing to pay.</p>
<p>If you don't love NYC- if you don't want to live and breath it and take advantage of the billion things that it has to offer, I don't understand why you would go to NYU- NYU is so much about the city. While the city can be expensive, if you put effort in while going to school there, it is easy to find ways to experience it on a tiny tiny budget. Some students are given a huge monthly allowance, but I do not get one- thus, I am living proof that it is possible to live in NYC on a small amount of spending money. Broadway Shows? $20 student rush tickets- if you can't afford that, see an off B-way show for half that price. Good clubs? Many clubs are free before midnight on certain nights, or meet people who promote and get in for free. Fine food? Well, maybe not FINE food- but walk around and you can find a restaurant from pretty much any nation you'd like- and for me, that is WAY better than some fancy, stuck-up pricey place. If you're into that though, go and order an appetizer! Not to mention the INCREDIBLE museums that you can go to for free, and my favorite thing: Walking around and taking it all in- that costs nothing.</p>
<p>Obviously, everyone has their own opinions about college, what is good/bad- but the bottom line is, when pinning colleges up against eachother, you need to realize that many people pay as much as they do for certain colleges because of location- I knew when applying that I was ONLY going to go somewhere in NYC. So, in this discussion, where everyone is saying whether NYU is "worth" the money, keep in mind that if you haven't visited it and did not fall in love when you did, it may not be worth the money FOR YOU- but listening to other people's opinions is NO substitute or gauge for actually seeing it and breathing in NY.</p>
<p>It's all a matter of personal opinion! If you personally don't think it's worth it, don't apply. But many people think it's worth it as they had around 3300 early decision applicants alone! Don't impose your own opinions on others. It should be up to the individual if they want to apply to an expensive school.</p>