@daththiccboi Stats?
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My D has same situation. What is your final result?
@ tz6616 I got deferred as well. What does your housing application show?
@Sophagawea Sorry I was peeping in the ED thread–were you rejected from NYUNY? I applied RD and just got acceptance from shanghai (my second choice) and the New York one has yet to give me a decision on April 1st…does that mean I am rejected from my primary choice at NY as well? I only checked Shanghai one as one last resort…
@Abrollll summer 2018
@Panda_juice My D18 (I may be doing that wrong - trying to say she graduates from high school in 2018) got the exact same reaction: accepted to NYU Shanghai with $30k scholarship yet no word from NYU regarding the NYC campus. After an email and then later the next week a phone call from us to NYU’s NYC admissions office, we finally got a definitive answer that the second choice campus does not even get to see the application until after the first choice campus has made a decision on that applicant. In other words, NYC rejected her, at which point the second choice campus was allowed to view the application and make a decision.
But what makes NO sense is that the applicant is told NOTHING from the first choice campus. No status update, no decision announcement, nothing. From our end of this, it is as if the first choice campus never even saw her application, because they told us absolutely nothing. We only got closure after contacting NYU’s NYC Admissions Office directly and asking very specific questions such as did her application get reviewed by the NYC campus (or were they still deliberating or something), if reviewed, was she considered for deferment to RD, was she considered by NYU for any of the alternate programs (which she also indicated on her app as being interested in) available at the NYC campus, etc.
NYU has lost credibility, at least with us, from this experience. The acceptance letter from the Shanghai Admissions Office says that NYU decided that Shanghai was the best fit for her, or she was the best fit for Shanghai, I guess. But this really felt more like, wow, maybe we should have not said yes to a second campus, because they pretend there is logic and reasoning behind their final decision, yet they offer no view into why one campus is “the best fit” and none of the other options would be suitable. And the fact that we had to pry some semblance of clarity from them just adds to the feeling that the “best fit” declaration alludes to deep analysis on their part, yet they then offer nothing to back it up, to help us feel like they are excited about this decision. Instead, it feels more like this is a shuffling of papers, sticking those who said yes to a second campus onto the “Not Our Problem” stack of papers at NYC. I mean, sure okay, we get it. She wasn’t viewed as a strong candidate for the particular NYC program she applied for (although some admits posted stats way below her numbers so we know it wasn’t due to gpa or class rank or test scores). But I am not convinced that NYC gave her application any further consideration after that point. I think that the program said no, that they then saw “yes” and “Shanghai” and were like, cool, we are done here.
But anyway, that is supposedly what an acceptance to your second choice campus (Shanghai) represents, according to the email they sent: she was thoroughly considered and fully rejected (no deferment option, no other program option) from the NYC campus. But do they tell applicants that this is the situation? No. No they do not tell you anything, not one word, regarding your first choice’s decision. I guess we are just supposed to assume the answer.
@icbihtsu - Wow, I am so sorry. I really think NYU needs to be more upfront their process when reviewing applicants…
I think that when a student lists a first and a second choice they assume that this will be the order that the applications will be reviewed and reviewed fairly in consecutive order. Who knows if they are really doing this. They had a new record of applicants this year. It will be interesting to see if some applicants who put down Shanghai as a second choice school did get into the NY campus. They don’t have enough spots in NY so it makes sense for them to filter out those students to the Shanghai campus. Good luck to your daughter.
@icbihtsu This is an example of why it’s important to ask questions to admissions before you commit to something. I
To my understanding, NYU has a policy that they will consider the first choice location fully–which would result in either an acceptance, deferral or rejection. If it is an acceptance, that’s it. It is a “fit” and the applicant gets an ED acceptance.
But if it’s a rejection or deferral the application is then sent to the 2nd choice location adcom team. If the second site accepts an applicant, they determine that it is a “fit”-- and the application process ends with an admit. When an applicant indicates a second location and gets admitted ED, they are not going to have the first site reconsider the applicant as a deferral for RD.
The second site can also reject or defer the applicant. If the applicant is deferred by BOTH sites during the ED round, I’m sure the applicant is again looked at by the first site for RD and if rejected, will then be considered by the second site for RD.
Now this is my UNDERSTANDING of the process, as D has already graduated. But if I were an applicant , I would not just check the second choice site without understanding the process fully.
I am so thankful for these boards. After looking at the boards for last years pool for NYU I learned about the prior years results after putting a second choice down on the application. I advised my daughter against doing that this year.
Well, I guess I made myself a target, and now I’m feeling defensive (but possibly rightfully so, I mean, dang).
I was hoping to provide a cautionary tale for others in general, plus, someone specifically asked “does that mean I am rejected from my primary choice at NY as well?” and getting a specific answer to that specific question, for someone of my mental capacity (which might be insufficient for this endeavor, overall), has been like pulling teeth. So I thought it’d be good karma on my part to share what we learned wrt this specific question (boy did that blow up in my face… lol). No good deed goes unpunished. So, yes. Okay. I hear you. I will look for the policy. I will look to see if the policy addresses this specific question. I will look to see if the policy makes it clear that hearing nothing from the first choice means a rejection from the first choice. I seem to recall reading someone saying they got an answer from both. I will therefore also look to see if the policy has perhaps been changed, such that it was NYU’s policy at one point to give separate answers, but is no longer. But it starts with actually locating the policy. Which has proven problematic thus far, just from basic google searches. Policy, oh policy, please show yourself… (grabs flashlight and heads back into the thicket).
First choice is exactly that. First. So if deferral is an option at one’s FIRST choice, it seems obvious (to me, anyway, but what is obvious to me doesn’t match up with how other people think, I am learning), then the applicant should be granted the luxury of being offered deferral to RD or waitlisted for their FIRST choice. At that point, I would agree that the applicant had been fully considered for their FIRST choice. And appropriately communicated with about said options.
Regardless, staying 100% silent wrt the FIRST choice’s decision confuses more than one person, since I’ve seen others ask about this. Blaming the applicant for failing to imagine every possible scenario, for not proactively asking the adcom folks about this what-if eventuality and that what-if situation, seems trifling. There is room for improvement here on NYU’s part. We aren’t the only ones who struggled with this. Obviously.
@icbihtsu Wow thanks so much for your in-depth answer, I really really appreciate it! That clarifies something, although confirming my fear…I regret a lot for even picking Shanghai as a second choice. I also agree that NYU should give us a decision from NYUNY first so they can stop giving us any false hope…
Although I am curious, did your acceptance letter to NYUSH say your daughter is best fitted for Shanghai? My acceptance only said “You will have access to your official offer of admission later this month, but I wanted to let you know in advance that you will be offered admission to NYU Shanghai.” I know that most likely I am rejected from NYC (especially since I applied to Stern) but if my letter didnt say that “NYU decided that Shanghai was best fit for you” does that mean any alternate results? Haha, I know it is pretty useless to think more but I guess I do feel mistreated (35 act, Valedictorian in class of 600 ppl, leadership ec’s) based on all the work I put into high school, and I am sure your daughter feels just as bummed.
I need to correct my wording, now that I look back on her acceptance letter. The wording was “best matched” (rather than “best fit”). See below:
“The admissions committee took note of the fact that you requested consideration for more than one program or campus within NYU’s global network. They concluded that NYU Shanghai is the part of NYU for which you are best matched, the place within the university to which you should be admitted.”
Note that they give no hint as to which admissions committee (NYC? Shanghai? some third option?). It sorta sounds like there is one omniscient adcom (“THE admissions committee”) which serves as I.D. checker and door bouncer for every possible passageway into the interior of this crazy NYU dance party club. “You shall not pass but through me” kind of thing, “and I choose this door for your entryway into our world.” The whole thing is starting to make me giggle, at this point. It has forced me to overthink it waaaaaaaay too much, and now it is bordering on the farcical.
@Panda_juice, I’m sure you can relate.
@Panda_juice -
[ya wanna know the most ludicrous part? She was aiming for Tisch for film. Now, why she said yes to a second campus, I dunno. But she also said yes to a third campus. So stick with me here for a minute: She put Shanghai for second campus, and Abu Dhabi for third campus. Here is where I start to just laugh: Shanghai has NO “film” opportunities per se, but Abu Dhabi does! Abu Dhabi has a Film and Media Major (and Minor), which at least mentions “careers as filmmakers”. Meanwhile the Shanghai campus offers no Film major (can’t find the term “film” anywhere), but it does offer an Interactive Media Arts Major (and Minor), which includes a “Communications Lab [which] introduces students to digital media, and asks them to produce a series of interactive multimedia projects for the Web using HTML, CSS and JavaScript.”
How could “the” admissions committee (wherever or whoever that might be) interpret a film fanatic, who wants to direct, whose Common App essay was all about being a film director, as being best matched for a digital media/computer programming course of study? In other words, since Tisch didn’t want her, wouldn’t the next logical choice be Abu Dhabi? Sure seems like she’d be best matched for Abu Dhabi (rather than Shanghai), doesn’t it? It is at that point where I just scratch my head and start to mumble and giggle and realize how little sense the whole thing makes. Bottom line: the whole thing was a bad match from the get go, is how it seems to us now. Live and learn. And move on!]
@tz6616 Is it showing you 4 location options??
@icbihtsu Yes I sympathize with you. I think it is because so many students applied that they start to deviate their attention from one single applicant and started to care less. I just received an email from NYU yesterday night informing me of NYU decision on April 1st…did you get the same email? Does that mean they tell us we are accepted to Shanghai the second time on that date and tell us we are rejected to NY ? I do not get that part haha, it is making me too hopeful 
@Panda_juice Ours happened a month ago, when ED2 decisions came out. So it was a slightly different process/experience for us. She did not receive an email notifying her that she would be accepted to Shanghai. She just went to the portal and checked on Feb. 15. Interesting that they send the RD folks a heads-up email. Not bad or anything. Just interesting.
@Panda_juice “Does that mean they tell us we are accepted to Shanghai the second time on that date and tell us we are rejected to NY ?”
You will never get an outright rejection regarding the NYC campus. Unless you ask them for one.
They seem to prefer silence. No news = bad news, is what you are to infer, based on our experience.