<p>Here is what the Tisch web page shows for the Freshman class hours in the New Studio for Acting. I count 17. </p>
<p>Tuesday
9:00-10:30 am Movement Dynamics
12:00-2:30 pm Physical Acting
3:00 - 5:30 pm Acting Technique</p>
<p>Thursday
9:00-10:30 am Movement Dynamics
10:30 am-12:00pm Voice
1:30-2:30 pm Speech
3:00 - 5:30 pm Acting Technique</p>
<p>Friday
9:30-11:30 am (sic) Physical Acting
12:30-2:00 pm Voice</p>
<p>Is this about the same as the scheduled hours you would have in one of the other studios? Someonet said on another thread that she thought her daughters schedule was longer in the studios she was in. Can any Tisch students or parents get hold of a real schedule from whichever studio they are in and post it as proof of that? </p>
<p>The schedule is in jpeg form under Downloads on the right.The</a> New Studio on Broadway: Tisch School of the Arts at NYU</p>
<p>That’s a sample schedule you’re looking at. I don’t know where an ‘official’ schedule is, if they’ve even made an 'official one yet. I imagine we’ll find out more over the summer when they send us more in-depth studio information.</p>
<p>As I wrote to you on another thread, I don’t have the exact schedule in hand that my D had at CAP21 and at ETW studios at Tisch. But I do believe she went to studio three days per week from 9-6 (close to that…might have varied some days with ending at 5:30 or starting at 9:30). I recall at the time it being listed as 22 hours in studio. </p>
<p>Again, as I wrote you before, the schedule you are showing is just for FRESHMEN in that ONE studio. </p>
<p>Also, you are comparing apples and oranges with your other thread you started about the hours for USC students. For example, you have Theater Production and Theory/History of Theater type classes in the USC mix. At Tisch, in ADDITION TO THE STUDIO TIME, you take 7 courses in Theater studies including Theater Production. Those are not even on the studio days. So, if you are including those courses in the USC list, add those in for the NYU/Tisch list. At Tisch, a student actually studies theater on the non-studio days as well. Some of those classes even are performance oriented (though not all are).</p>
<p>While this is not exactly what you are asking, I’ll add this information here as it is related…</p>
<p>A BFA in Drama at Tisch involves…</p>
<p>Professional Training…48 credits
Theatre Studies…28 credits
Liberal Arts…32 credits
Electives in any of the above areas…20 credits</p>
<p>Actually this is one of the biggest issues right now in Tisch Drama, that some of the studios seem to offer more hours and therefore more rigorous training than others. Most of the studios offer 18-24 hours a week of training.
I can tell you that this issue has been raised multiple times when students have met with Liz Bradley, Drama Department Chair, and that with the external studios the department has many meetings to address these things. The drama department argues that the rigor of the curriculum is not always and necessarily dependent on the number of hours. For example, you might get 3 hrs of voice work in one studio and 2 hrs in another, but if the 2 hr one is equally intensive and the teacher really pushes and formats the class in a way where the same amount of material is covered, theoretically the rigor of the training would be the same. I personally can see this way of thinking but disagree with it.</p>
<p>Schools like University of Michigan still have many hours of conservatory training combined with academic/theater studies courses. </p>
<p>Also, I have been told by my Drama Dept. Adviser that the New Studio’s Acting curriculum was still being modified and changed. So there MIGHT be additional hours. However, I do believe that the training will still be rigorous. But I understand where you are coming from, and if I were you I would perhaps contact Kent Gash, New Studio Head, to express your concerns. </p>
<p>My peers and I raised concerns about certain parts of our training to the department and I can say without a doubt that they were very concerned and were very quick to try to figure out a solution. The thing is that they often don’t know what you have concerns about until you actually raise them. I do know that in some of the external studios you have the option of adding on classes.</p>
<p>claydavisdbc - Do you know which studios are reputed to be in the 24 hour range? Honestly, the only one that piques my interest is Adler. I might be more enthusiastic about going through all the trouble of applying and auditioning if I knew it were in that range. New Studio, Meisner or Atlantic would be total deal breakers if I got stuck in them and I wouldn’t be too excited about Playwrights or ETW. Do you know anyone in Adler you could get to post a schedule here? If not, do you think they would just send me one if I emailed the head of the studio? </p>
<p>This is a big concern for me and I totally agree with you about disagreeing with them about the class hours. Like I said in my first post, I feel like training is kinesthetic. It takes a lot of DOING for me. </p>
<p>Do you feel like you are getting anything in the Tisch Strasberg studio besides the theater studies and NYU liberal arts classes that you couldn’t get by just training at Strasberg minus the university? I wonder about that with Adler and the others as well. Sorry if I am being burdensome, but I am curious about that. </p>
<p>soozievt - I am not comparing apples to oranges on the USC thread. I only added up the time for the performance based classes. I included the other classes because they were available and I clearly marked them as non-performance. It is more like lemons to lemons to me if those numbers are right. haha</p>
<p>It seems to me that 17-18 class hours is around standard for a BFA anyway. I found an old thread where a DePaul rep boasted about having 16 for freshmen which is another reason for me to be not interested!</p>
<p>The most “intensive” studios in terms of HOURS and the discipline instilled in the students (Atlantic actually locks their doors when classes start) would be Meisner and Atlantic. I believe those are in the 24 hrs/week range. I believe Adler is intense too, 20-22 hrs I believe. But the best thing to do would be to cool the Adler Studio in New York and ask to speak to the NYU Studio Representative. I also could ask a friend and post it here if you want. CAP21 I believe has 21.5 or 22.5 hours a week. And I believe Playwrights Horizons is quite intense as well. At Strasberg in the fall, I believe they are offering 20 hrs a week (perhaps 22, if they succumb to pressure) but we are allowed to choose up to 4 hours of electives, so I myself am choosing to do 24 hours a week at Strasberg and then you can combine that with a 2 hour Tisch Drama Elective (mine got cancelled, so now I’m on the waitlist for a new elective called Intro to Screen Acting that is held at the Stonestreet Studio).</p>
<p>To be honest with you I would not study at the Lee Strasberg Institute if it was not through NYU Tisch School of the Arts. Here are some reasons why:
- The Strasberg teachers that teach NYU kids are carefully selected, not all Institute teachers teach NYU kids.
- One of my teachers mentioned how Strasberg teachers really have to work with Tisch on how they teach the class, format, etc. In other words, Tisch does make its acting training philosophies known to the teachers and the studios. In fact, Tisch’s standards for training often change and they do have meetings with the studios to ask them to adjust this and that. One thing that is being addressed right now is more of a transition from acting scenes to scene nights, in addition to having these scene nights be directly part of the curriculum aka graded.
- I believe the NYU/Strasberg classes are more rigorous and intense.
- NYU/Strasberg classes are smaller than the Institute classes (sometimes they have over 20 people a class)
- Tisch requires an audition, anyone can study at the Institute if they want to. aka some really bad actors.
- I hate to say this but a lot of people at the Strasberg Institute are foreign students who do not speak English.
- The NYU program is actually a 2 year curriculum, with the option of staying for the Third Year and the 4th Year Advanced Practicum (Transitioning into the Professional Industry). It is already worked out, and it is progressive and builds. At the Strasberg Institute while they do have a 2 year program I do not believe the curriculum is as progressive and carefully constructed as ours.
- The regular institute does not put on fully staged productions. There are 2-3 NYU/Strasberg productions every semester, not open to Institute students.
- We have an attendance policy where we need to sign in
- For me, I would never be okay studying with people in the late 20s to early 30s as an eighteen year old college freshman in an acting class where we deal with sometimes awkward and touchy scenes. I feel that it is ESSENTIAL for any young actor to be in a class with his or her peers and to feel COMFORTABLE in that environment where he or she can grow and take risks.
- Not all the classes in the NYU Curriculum are offered as Institute classes (The NYU teachers have input in our curriculum, and subsequent class changes are made)
- Also, as a Tisch student you have access to these invaluable Tisch Drama Electives. ALONG with Tisch Master Classes, workshops, and many more things because the department is undergoing major changes and I believe they are trying to increase the focus on professional transition into the industry. In terms of exposure to agents/casting directors, working on audition skills, etc.
- As a Tisch student you can also audition for the StageWorks (Mainstage) productions, GAP Student Shows, Student Directed shows, and EXPOSE yourself to many other training styles and views outside of your studio. You get to work with students in other training studios.</p>
<p>Now, I don’t know anything about how the non-NYU Adler training works, so you’d have to ask them.</p>
<p>Hey thanks for taking time for that!</p>
<p>Here is what my friend wrote:</p>
<p>1st semester–
voice and speech 3x a week
contemporary scene study 2x a week
ballet 1x a week (dont let this freak him out…most people had never danced before)
character 1x a week
movement 2x a week
pretty much all those classes are an hour and a half. first semester i had one 9-6 day, one 11-6 day, and one 12:30-4:30 day. </p>
<p>but then second semester we added shakespeare scene study 2x a week, so that adds more hours and i ended up there 9-6 or 6:30 all three days.
it’s going to be a lot of hours, tell him it’s not for slackers! haha. but i send my good luck! and to really really really REALLY look at the studios and talk to people, and see how happy they are there</p>
<p>I do have to say that I agree with my friend on really looking at the studios. It is really important to keep an open mind about the studios, they’re all amazing and who knows, you might change as a performer. I know that a lot of people prior to coming to Tisch look down on ETW, but after they get here and see the kind of training and work they do, many people want to do the ETW Transfer Track, which is incredibly difficult to get into. This is because the things that they teach are rather hard to get outside of school and many people see that they’re teaching a unique way to acting perhaps not commonly taught in traditional acting conservatories. Also, I know A LOT of people whos interests change and grow. Some people fall out of love with MT and want to do film, or vice versa. Some want to do experimental theater and some want to do classical work. I know that I am interested in studying Meisner technique and Practical Aesthetics, although at first I did not view those techniques in a favorable way. This is not to say that I don’t like Strasberg technique, I just also recognize the benefits of those techniques and appreciate the fact that at Tisch you can study multiple approaches to acting. </p>
<p>If you want to FaceBook message my friend for more information on Adler, I can PM you her name.</p>
<p>I agree with clay! The hours and time spent at studio is a lot. And one should be open to more than one studio. Also, at Tisch, you can train in more than one studio during your four years there. </p>
<p>My kid is a MT kid through and through. She entered Tisch in CAP21. If you would have told me that she’d ever do any other studio back when she entered, I’d say, nope. However, she did five semesters in CAP21 (it is a seven semester studio and she only gave up on semester of training there and the showcase semester but did the Tisch showcase instead) and did ETW transfer track and was in ETW for three semesters. Before entering Tisch, she never expressed any interest in ETW. She heard about and observed the training the kids in ETW were getting. She also liked what they were being offered. ETW is very popular once students are at Tisch and know more about it. You are right that it is very hard to be admitted to ETW transfer track. She felt so lucky to get accepted. Also, they offer “Independent Projects” which she wanted to do her final semester. She wrote/composed a musical in ETW and staged it. It was later staged post graduation at a NYC venue. I don’t want to give details but that show has been further developed and was selected for something and is now being paid for by others who are workshopping it at a much higher level. My D found ETW to be amazing. Before she entered Tisch, she never would have known that.</p>
<p>I know that Atlantic’s Schedule is very grueling. Class starts at 8:30 and lets out at 6:30 3 times per week.</p>