<p>Ok so here's the situation: I got rejected from all my other schools (i guess it was difficult this year, but i was aiming for the ivys - def. all reach schools, even as i thought i had a decent chance at cornell or brown =/ ) anyways, after all the rejections all I have left is NYU - the LSP not even CAS, and SBU, univeristy scholars not even honors or WISE. Right now all I'm thinking about is working my hardest in any of the two and trying to transfer sophmore yr to any ivy.
so here are some Q's:
Would it be easier to transfer to a top school from a decent one such as NYU or a state school - SBU?? I mean would it look better if i got a really good gpa from NYU rather than SBU??
Also, there is a dramatic difference in price to consider - comparing like $56,000 a yr (like 40,000 after FA) for NYU and $5,000 (2500 after FA) for SBU - HUGE difference. I live really close to SBU, so i'll def. commute but is NYU's experience worth that amount of money?<br>
At SBU, I wont get the college experience and all I'll be doing freshman yr is going to classes and coming home, not socializing much; plus i really dont like the campus and hear people are really unhappy there, it also seems pretty boring compared to be living in the city were I'm only a train-ride away from home but get to live at a dorm and make a social life.</p>
<p>it would definitely still be cheap, but there’s no reason why i would want to live there if i live 15 minutes away, when instead I could get a car</p>
<p>i would consider where you wouldn’t mind staying in the event that you don’t get in anywhere you really want to go as a transfer. i assume that you’re thinking of applying to really selective schools as a transfer, and usually it’s much harder to get in as a transfer than as a freshman applicant. so think about the worst case: you don’t get in anywhere you really love or you don’t get in somewhere that you think will be worth tons of money. would you be happier staying at stony brook or nyu for 4 years?</p>
<p>and from what i’ve seen, it’s easier to transfer from a better school, assuming you do well. most of the transfers who came in with me to cornell came from places like william and mary, vassar, etc and there are a couple here who came from other ivies (including someone from wharton who came to our business program). again, only if you do well. you can’t get a 3.3 at nyu and think that that’s going to make you competitive.</p>
<p>Go to SBU for one year, get a 4.0 and transfer. One year of a crappy social life won’t kill you. And you will have a lot of time to study and get that 4.0. With all the night life and great social life at NYU, will you have time to study to get that 4.0?</p>
<p>FYI there are tons of social events for commuters, especially in the fall. Honestly, people who complain about having no social life and commuting don’t make any effort. There are a LOT of things you can to meet people as a commuter. The people who hate here are the most vocal ones on boards like this, it is all what YOU make of the opportunities provided to you. Go to all the events for freshman in the beginning of the year and you’ll find lots of friends.</p>
<p>It is very difficult to transfer into an Ivy. Pick whichever school you would be happy at for four years. NYU is really, really expensive compared to SBU and really not that much more prestigious if you are going for the sciences. </p>
<p>I’m not a SBU cheerleader or anything, but if I were you I would go to the cheaper school and focus on doing extremely well and go to an Ivy for grad school. That is why I picked SBU - it allows me to save money for a top notch graduate school while exposing me to lots of research and top professors and researchers in my field.</p>
<p>“It is very difficult to transfer to an ivy”
I’d like to see some evidence on that lol. I realize that ivy league schools have low acceptance rates, but I’ve researched Cornell and I’m pretty sure that statistically its a better % to get in as a transfer.</p>
<p>Ironicallyunsure, you are hoping that your Cornell reputation will mean something. It is not reputation of the college, but your college performance that will determine job search or graduate school admission. There are many bright students whose parents cannot afford to pay the private universities.</p>
<p>I got a full ride to SBU and a fin aid package from NYU telling me to take out $120k in loans over four years. I love NYU, but I figure I’ll save money on undergrad and go to NYU for grad school, since grad school’s what actually matters anyway.</p>
<p>I would choose SBU if i were you. Yea, i agree with tomatoki. grad school matters the most. just do really well undergrad and save up your money for grad school. this way, you wont be that much in debt (:</p>
<p>btw, does anyone know anything about SBU’s college of business? I’ll be going there because they were very generous with their financial aid. some of the other schools i applied to would leave in a a load of debt after undergrad. But are there any positives about SBU’s college of business? some people were telling me that they were on the weaker side… ):</p>
<p>Don’t worry you won’t be missing much of a social life being a commuter its boring as a resident and as a commuter and I partied and socialized but it still crap compared to other universities. If you plan on going for a Ivy anyways go to Stony get a 4.0 and leave it doesnt matter the school it matters the classes if you take really hard classes and do well you have a better chance at Ivy if you go to Stony I would take the science class and math classes. And yes the campus sucks lived there for 4 years especially in the winter ice everywhere they don’t shovel also the food sucks, parking sucks, and the school is overcrowded. Social life is pretty lame and everyone leaves on the weekend to go home anyways or go have fun in the city. Paying 40k to party and live college life is OD i just take the LIRR to the city and party just like the NYU kids would but cheaper.</p>
<p>I graduated from SBU in May of 2009 - just shy of a year ago. I think the school needs more credit. Yes some things suck - parking, social life, no one is ever very helpful - but it is a good school. I am finishing up grad school at Emory (one of the top 20 schools in the country). I was not in any honors programs at SB, I did okay my overall GPA was just shy of 3.5. I made the best of my situation - 2 internships (Senator Schumer and News12). I also was a TA for the my entire senior year. These were all opportunities I made. Keep in mind during the school year there is not as much competition on LI for some great internships. There is basically SBU and Hofstra. I am telling you hands down SBU is the best on the island and it will open doors. I could of transferred out to Fordham after a year. I decided not to and am so happy I made that decision. Don’t count out SBU.</p>
<p>thanks so much, i agree with people that NYU is def. so much more expensive and that it’s really not worth the load of debt I’ll go into. I have yet to decide which one, but after the admitted students day at SBU this saturday I’ll probably make a decision. I’ll keep you guys posted and thanks so much for the tips, I really needed them =)</p>