<p>Cheers - Actually, an economics course is a requirement for high school graduation in California. New York now has the same requirement. I'm sure other states do as well.</p>
<p>Ledeyana, I hope you understood that I was not saying you SHOULD apply to Oxford, or any college for that matter. I just suggested it as a possibility. Obviously, you are the one who has to make the ultimate decision with input from your parents and guidance counselor. Best of luck.</p>
<p>Wow. You're not talking about Home Economics, right? If not, I did not know that about NY and California. It wasn't true for the private US hs my Ss last attended. In fact, Economics was not offered as a subject--other than Home Econ; ie cooking and sewing skills.</p>
<p>Still, I think my point still applies. International high school students who study economics do so for three or four years and, if she did that, L's sister probably arrived at Emory with a much higher understanding of economics than the average American student.</p>
<p>C--did you look at the Emory Econ dept offerings? It might not be HYP, but it's comprehensive. A freshman shouldn't find the whole department too 'easy', IMHO.</p>
<p>No, I'm talking about an actual Economics class . Required in California and NY public schools for graduation. I'm sure there are some other states that require it as well but I don't have time to research all 50 states. Most of the private schools here in Calif. conform to California state standards for graduation so even private school kids have to take economics. Many kids in both public and private schools take AP Economics to meet the requirement. Of course, US students don't take 4 years of economics because most are required to also take a course in US History and a course in US Government at the minimum. Here in California home economics is no longer offered in any school that I know of. :)</p>
<p>Are you sure about NY? I checked the Regent's Exam table and didn't see Econ. Also, I checked the New York State graduation requirements and noted 8 social studies--but no specific economics.</p>
<p>International students might take four years of history and four years of econ. As you know, they tend to specialize very early in the high school career.</p>
<p>My S is taking university level econ and it is a very basic course--which he needs becuase he didn't take it in high school. That was my experience as well when I took two Economics courses at uni back in the dark ages.</p>
<p>From the NY Department of Education web site:</p>
<p>6) All students first entering grade nine in 1985 and thereafter shall earn four units of credit in social studies in accordance with the following:</p>
<p>(i) Such requirement shall include one unit of credit in American history;</p>
<p>(ii) Such requirement shall include one half unit of credit in participation in government and one half unit of credit in economics or their equivalent.</p>
<p>By the way, Georgia state Performance Standards for graduation, where Emory is located, also require coursework in economics:
<a href="http://www.georgiastandards.org/socialstudies.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.georgiastandards.org/socialstudies.asp</a></p>
<p>Cheers, I'm curious when you say "international students must take four years of history and four years of economics." Is that ALL international students or just the ones in indonesia?</p>
<p>Cheers - I was curious - so far I've been able to track down 13 states which require an economics course for graduation. I would be very curious to see any examples of other countries that require economics courses for graduation - so far, I haven't been able to find such standards in Canada or Australia but I haven't looked very hard. As a business reporter, I'd be very interested to have some examples of countries that do require 4 years of economics for graduation - interesting topic, isn't it?</p>
<p>haha! A bit of misunderstanding. I said 'might', you read ''must'. International students MIGHT take up to three (not four!) years of economics. </p>
<p>My point is that the high school economics requirements in the US (and opportunities in fact) are minimal. While the history departments of top high schools might be deep--international schools have deep economics departments as well as comprehensive History departments. I was surprised to see that Phillips Exeter lists an Economics department, though it only offers three courses for seniors. </p>
<p>Stuyvesant economics is taught within the Social studes department but again, three courses offered to seniors only. </p>
<p>A student who may have had two (or three--can't find an example of four) full years of economics at an international high school MIGHT well find introductory economics courses at Emory beneath her--as the Exeter economics grad would. </p>
<p>A description of the economics at Harrow School </p>
<p>What would be interesting would be the difference between intro university level Economics courses in the UK vs the US.</p>
<p>my sister took the IB HL economics.. therefore only taking 2 years of economics.. However she receives a perfect score in her IB HL economics, AP microeconomics, and AP macroeconomics.. in Indonesia, there are some schools that offer 4 years of economics.. this also applies to Singapore (my friend didnt have to study in the IB HL economics when he move to my school since the course is almost the same with his grade 9 and 10 economics in Singapore).. I just want to make sure, if I got into Oxford College and went there.. will it be a 100% guarantee that I can go to either Emory's liberal arts college / business school after being there for 2 years? thx</p>
<p>Carolyn, I have never heard of an economics requirement for CA high school graduation. S's curriculum includes 3 semesters of global studies, AP US History, and AP Goverment/Comparative Politics-no specific economics class. The school does offer AP Economics.</p>
<p>Thank you for that info on your sister, L. That was my hunch. Your sister went to Emory with a superior economics education. Hopefully, she tells her advisor she is bored in her classes and they can advance her to an appropriate level. She is clearly NOT in the right class! She should find it challenging--though it sounds like she has a special talent. I hope she has a good advisor....</p>
<p>Not sure about the Oxford question, but are you planning to get a business degree Ledyana? Have you taken Economics already?</p>
<p>And thanks for the info on four years available in Indonesia and Singapore--I looked up the curriculum at Raffles institution and didn't see four years of offerings....</p>
<p>My S's school offers three full years of economics courses, seperate from the three years of Geography courses offered and seperate again from the five years of History courses offered--substantially different from the Georgia requirement--where an economics bit is embedded in a Social studies course on Government and Geography. (C--I don't even see where economics is offered at Palos Verdes High <a href="http://palosverdeshigh.net/academics/social_science.htm%5B/url%5D">http://palosverdeshigh.net/academics/social_science.htm</a> ??) </p>
<p>It is also different from one or two courses offered from the history department (as at Cate: <a href="http://www.cate.org/public/?id=43%5B/url%5D">http://www.cate.org/public/?id=43</a>)</p>
<p>my friend from Singapore is from UWC.. he said that he took economics from grade 9.. but then move to my school in grade 11.. Im going to major in either economics / business.. I am taking IB HL economics right now..</p>
<p>L, if you are taking the same course your sister took, then you might consider taking an advanced econ class in your freshman year at US university. It's something to talk to your advisor about before you register.</p>
<p>thx for the advice cheers. Is it possible after I study 2 years in Oxford that I will get rejected when I try to transfer to Emory's liberal arts / business school? thanks!</p>
<p>In the Oxford's website, I found this..</p>
<p>Four-Year Scholar Statistics<br>
Average GPA 3.9
Average SAT 1460
Average ACT 30 </p>
<hr>
<p>Two-Year Scholar Statistics<br>
Average GPA 3.69<br>
SAT 1350<br>
ACT 29 </p>
<p>What does this means? thanks</p>
<p>L;
You are so far off the OP--why don't you start another post for these Oxford specific questions on another thread? Title: Emory Parents Please Help! or something....:)</p>
<p>I do not know the answer to your questions. You need Emory parents....Good luck. I think you have a good list.</p>
<p>Ledyana HAS emory parents since her sister goes there (LOL!). </p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification Cheers - I was thinking there was going to be a GREAT article in there about how the U.S. is far behind the rest of the world when it comes to economics education. :)</p>
<p>Ledyana - what that means, is what I said originally: Oxford accepts students who are not likely to get into Emory College. As you can see, with your stats, Emory college is going to be a reach for you. Oxford is a match, perhaps a safety. If you go back and read my original message, I mentioned Oxford to you specifically for this reason and also because some students have found that it offers the best of both worlds - an opportunity to study at a small LAC type school for two years and then at a large research university the last two years. You are guaranteed admission to Emory after Oxford if you keep up your GPA. Again, I am not saying you SHOULD apply to Oxford --- I only suggested it as a possibility. Keep in mind that it will be a very different experience than your sister is having at Emory - you will not be on the main campus but on the original Emory campus about 40 minutes away from Atlanta. You will have smaller classes for your first two years and the focus will be on liberal arts, not specializing in your major. It's not the right choice for everyone but if someone REALLY wants to end up with a degree from Emory University and doesn't have the stats to get into Emory College, this is an option. </p>
<p>Rather than ask other people here about Oxford, if you are interested in finding out more, I would suggest you contact the international admissions rep via email and ask your questions directly. I would also suggest that you ask the rep to connect you to some current students (international or not) who can answer your questions about what the campus is like. I think you'll get much better information that way.</p>
<p>Best of luck.</p>
<p>By the way, Ledyana, it is possible to apply to both Emory College and Oxford College at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>Carolyn-
My s. just graduated from HS here in GA and I've never heard of an economics requirement. Granted, he was in a private school, but even amongst my friends with kids in the public schools and my knowledge of the school curriculim, that's not something I have ever heard of. The requirements involve the required # of years of English, history, social studies, math, science, etc. but no required econ.
You are correct about Emory at Oxford. You can transfer to Emory after successful completion there. You are quite knowledgeable about the colleges. Where do you get all your info???</p>