Oct. Literature Discussion

<p>I found the passage. it's from Othello:

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But I do think it is their husbands' faults If wives do fall: say that they slack their duties And pour our treasures into foreign laps; Or else break out in peevish jealousies, Throwing restraint upon us; or say they strike us, Or scant our former having in despite; Why, we have galls; and though we have some grace, Yet have we some revenge. Let husbands know Their wives have sense like them: they see and smell And have their palates both for sweet and sour, As husbands have. What is it that they do When they change us for others? Is it sport? I think it is: and doth affection breed it? I think it doth: is't frailty that thus errs? It is so too. And have not we affections, Desires for sport, and frailty, as men have? Then let them use us well: else let them know The ills we do their ills instruct us so.

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<p><a href="http://www.gradesaver.com/etext/titles/othello/section5.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.gradesaver.com/etext/titles/othello/section5.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>There were like 6-7..
Nobody said anything about the first passage about the girl resenting her parents and moving away from them <em>looks around and waits</em></p>

<p>OMG I had that on my Eng test last year and I didn't recognize it until now! And it was Yago's wife who said that, wasn't it?</p>

<p>i remember that othello girl! yeah, she's very...um, slutty.</p>

<p>Ah. Yep, I probably thought about that one way too much.</p>

<p>I don't really remember the questions to the first passage other than the "gravity" one, which I thought was the choice about confidence to face new challenges.</p>

<p>I haven't read Othello, but SparkNotes describes the speech as:</p>

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This leads Emilia to speak about the fact that women have appetites for sex and infidelity just as men do, and that men who deceive their wives have only themselves to blame if their wives cheat on them.

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<p>She had it coming; she had it coming; she only had herself to blame. We should forego an overly sympathetic interpretation of the speech. There was reason (and some ultimate justification) for her death. This leads me back to the mercenary issue discussed earlier; I can't remember the question.</p>

<p>crap I thought the gravity thing was about her diminishing control, since she was "forced" up and down</p>

<p>Mercenary doesn't mean belligerent it means materialistic.</p>

<p>and then there one about which contrasts are present in the passage, i.e. young vs old, health vs. illness, dependence vs independence good vs. evil <<< that's what I put ://</p>

<p>It can mean cutthroat too (in a figurative sense of course). I forget the question, though. So I have no point.</p>

<p>yeah that one was definitely good and evil. How about the one about the organization of the first passage? Did anyone put "introspection and evaluation"?</p>

<p>Yes, I did.</p>

<p>I think that question was about the speaker's tone or something. So if mercenary can mean cutthroat, then that's probably the best answer. But where did you find a definition of mercenary meaning cutthroat?</p>

<p>she didn't die. she more or less went to college (oh, no.).</p>

<p>Do I truly need a definition? A mercenary is (literally) someone who either kills for money or at least conscripts for money. I'm very tired and don't remember the question or whether or not I put that as an answer, but it can be logically deduced that this literal definition of mercenary makes way for at least two possible figurative interpretations: one of avariciousness and materialism; and the second of cutthroat indifference to anything but pay. Ultimately, the 2 figurative definitions are pretty much the same thing.</p>

<p>I said the tone was unsentimental, since the speaker approached such an emotionally charged subject as marriage without really talking about husbands' and wives feelings' (other than sexual ones), instead using cold reasoning to support her position. As an adjective, "mercenary" means acting only for money or some other reward, so I don't think it applies here.</p>

<p>Reciprocal affection and respect is pay, nea? Anyway, I agree that if the question is one of tone then it is very unsentimental. In many ways, though, I still hold that her views are very mercenary. Self-interest is a characteristic of the mercenary.</p>

<p>Except the second definition doesn't appear on dictionary.com or any dictionary in a google search. So can you document that definition?</p>

<p>oh ok (10char)</p>