<p>So...what did you guys think about it? I thought it was relatively hard, I barely had enough time to finish...</p>
<p>I had it done in 1/2 an hour, w/ answers checked. The poems were kinda hard, but they always are for me. The question about the ‘feet’ of others in the one poetry section was confusing, I think I put poetry as the answer…</p>
<p>I thought it was okay. </p>
<p>I think I put poetry too. I don’t remember exactly…I just remember that I thought he was looking for inspiration in others’ work and finally realized that he just had to write from his own heart spontaneously</p>
<p>The muse question was a little hard, I don’t remember what I put…</p>
<p>Neither do I. :[</p>
<p>What about some of the other passages? Anything that stuck out to you?</p>
<p>One of them…allegory? etc. I have trouble identifying it like that.</p>
<p>Oh, and the one about the carriage - satirical?</p>
<p>I think I put satirical. I think I put ‘Invention’ for the muse? maybe?</p>
<p>Hmm..Maybe? Haha.</p>
<p>It’d be easier if we could store this in our TIs. ;)</p>
<p>Here’s my two cents…</p>
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<p>First passage (introspection and evaluation):
Was the girl feeling resentful “at that time” ?
something about how every aspect of the girl’s life was made “in their hand”; answer–>cumulative effect of parent’s influence
repetition was the most prevalent device
gravity imagery–> stifling effect (related to [her] “diminishing” power)</p>
<p>Poems of our climate
image of poems and flowers–>anticipates concluding lines
imperfect: lies in flawed words and stumbling sounds?
what do “flawed words and stumbling sounds” refer to? (answers: mind, delight, poetry, paradise, etc)</p>
<p>O’Conner passage:
speaker–> Black writer?
why speaker opposes her mother’s “grass is on greener on the other side until one experiences it”: expresses resignation?
mother’s role–> provides counterpoints to speaker’s assertions
speaker’s final feeling: wry
good fertilization = nurturing environment</p>
<p>Carriage:
satirical vignet
EXCEPT question: change of view
All supports the ironic/humorous tone EXCEPT: “pulling down” (fences)</p>
<p>Nature, Study, Invention (poem):
Def. ‘Invention’ for the Muse because Invention symbolizes one’s original thoughts
feet = poetry (speaker trying to imitate different poets but couldn’t because the flow was off)
parched field (fresh and fruitful showers, sunburned brain)</p>
<p>Doreathea passage (last one):
EXCEPT question: social allegory (either this or depiction of domestic details)
Doreathea: shock and despair
Husband: shock and self-pity</p>
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<p>any confirmation/feedback much appreciated!</p>
<p>I put “she” for the Muse, because wasn’t it the muse who finally told him to write? That’s characteristic of an unfeeling partner, which is what the poet lamented about the whole time.</p>
<p>1: Girl and parents
a) For the gravity question, didn’t she feel like she was being pushed down then UP, so couldnt that be the answer about confidence?</p>
<p>b) There was one question about the technique she used or something. Repetition?</p>
<p>c) was there some ? involving epic simile as one of the answer choices?</p>
<p>2: O’connor thing
a) that whole green grass aphorism, I said, implied envy, whereas the narrator understands the grass to be injustice b/c she is witheld from it, so the narrator would view that aphorism as implying something negative, and thus cliche in terms of her society?</p>
<p>3: Carriage
a) do any of you recall all the answer choices for the except question?</p>
<p>4: Adultery Poem
a) What were the answer choices for that galls thing?</p>
<p>I thought it was pretty simple. Some of the answers were a little complex, but just a quick look back at the passage and other questions could help a bit.</p>
<p>Gah, I plan on majoring in Math, but I think I did way better on this subject test than my other two math/science ones.</p>
<ol>
<li>did you guys get “all except epic simile” for one of your choices?</li>
<li>i got galls = desire</li>
<li>for the o’connor passage, i got “spoilt daughter” as the answer. anyone else?</li>
<li>the first question about the first paragraph’s use of image of flowers in the poem - i said it is to paint a picture of a perfect world.</li>
<li>about how every thing in the girl’s life was made by their parents - what is the answer??</li>
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<p>otherwise i agree with the rest of avonlea’s answers.</p>
<p>@juenatics
- I dont remember the question for the epic simile one, but i THINK that was my answer.</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Do you remember the answer choices for galls?</p></li>
<li><p>What was the question?</p></li>
<li><p>It was something about perfection…</p></li>
<li><p>I said that it had to do with being controlled.</p></li>
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<ol>
<li><p>for the galls question, i can’t remember the rest of answer options. sorry about that. but i am very sure galls=desire.</p></li>
<li><p>for the o’connor passage, the question was: who was the speaker in the passage? avonlea said she was a “black writer”, but i thought she was more like a “spoilt daughter”, quibbling about which grass is greener and making a fuss about peacocks. anyone read it that way too? shucks.</p></li>
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<p>wikee: i don’t think the green grass implied envy, but resignation. but i’m not sure. i got ‘repetition’ too. </p>
<p>anyone got a ‘mocking’ tone for the first paragraph of some passage?</p>
<p>Was the girl feeling resentful “at that time” ? I think so.
something about how every aspect of the girl’s life was made “in their hand”; answer–>cumulative effect of parent’s influence yes
repetition was the most prevalent device definitly
gravity imagery–> stifling effect (related to [her] “diminishing” power) I think I put this because she was basically sent away</p>
<p>Poems of our climate
image of poems and flowers–>anticipates concluding lines I don’t think I put this…I don’t remember what I put.
what do “flawed words and stumbling sounds” refer to? (answers: mind, delight, poetry, paradise, etc) I put delight - because I think it was about taking delight in imperfection</p>
<p>O’Conner passage:
speaker–> Black writer? yes
why speaker opposes her mother’s “grass is on greener on the other side until one experiences it”: expresses resignation? yes
mother’s role–> provides counterpoints to speaker’s assertions yes
speaker’s final feeling: wry don’t remember
good fertilization = nurturing environmentI think I put public acclaim. I wasn’t sure. What do you guys think?</p>
<p>Carriage:
satirical vignet yes
EXCEPT question: change of view yes
All supports the ironic/humorous tone EXCEPT: “pulling down” (fences) don’t remember</p>
<p>Nature, Study, Invention (poem):
Def. ‘Invention’ for the Muse because Invention symbolizes one’s original thoughts yes
feet = poetry (speaker trying to imitate different poets but couldn’t because the flow was off ** yes**
parched field (fresh and fruitful showers, sunburned brain) yes</p>
<p>Doreathea passage (last one):
EXCEPT question: social allegory (either this or depiction of domestic details) I think I put allegory
Doreathea: shock and despair yes
Husband: shock and self-pity yay :] yes</p>
<ol>
<li>i got galls = desire me too</li>
<li>for the o’connor passage, i got “spoilt daughter” as the answer. anyone else? I got Black writer</li>
<li>the first question about the first paragraph’s use of image of flowers in the poem - i said it is to paint a picture of a perfect world. I put this or to start it off simply and beautifully (if this was even a choice for this question - I don’t remember)</li>
<li>about how every thing in the girl’s life was made by their parents - what is the answer?? don’t remember the question…</li>
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<p>How do you guys think you did? It’s hard to tell with literature, but I’m feeling okay about it.</p>
<p>something about how every aspect of the girl’s life was made “in their hand”; answer–>cumulative effect of parent’s influence</p>
<p>anyone remember the other options for this question?? is there a (wrong) option about how she felt stifled?</p>
<p>^I think there was a wrong answer about feeling stifled by her parents, but then again I could be confusing that answer choice with the answer to the gravity question</p>
<p>Does anyone remember the answer choices to the desire=gall question. was it sexual desire or just desire? was there a choice like ‘brazen boldness’ and ‘ire and revenge’ or something?</p>
<p>Also, what were the answer choices to what the fall represents? i remember adultery, but that’s all i remember</p>
<p>One more question, what did you guys put for what is most like the revenge that the narrator talks about? i remember ‘hitting husband back after husband hits wife’, and that’s about it, lol</p>
<p>Poems of our Climate:</p>
<p>I
Clear water in a brilliant bowl,
Pink and white carnations. The light
In the room more like a snowy air,
Reflecting snow. A newly-fallen snow
At the end of winter when afternoons return.
Pink and white carnations - one desires
So much more than that. The day itself
Is simplified: a bowl of white,
Cold, a cold porcelain, low and round,
With nothing more than the carnations there.</p>
<p>II
Say even that this complete simplicity
Stripped one of all one’s torments, concealed
The evilly compounded, vital I
And made it fresh in a world of white,
A world of clear water, brilliant-edged,
Still one would want more, one would need more,
More than a world of white and snowy scents.</p>
<p>III
There would still remain the never-resting mind,
So that one would want to escape, come back
To what had been so long composed.
The imperfect is our paradise.
Note that, in this bitterness, delight,
Since the imperfect is so hot in us,
Lies in flawed words and stubborn sounds.</p>
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<p>Don’t you guys think that the imagery of the flowers and bowl in the first stanza anticipates the concluding lines? The speaker notes that the simplicity of the imagery is not enough to satisfy his desires, which are addressed in the third stanza.</p>
<p>I
…
“one desires-So much more than that. The day itself
Is simplified: a bowl of white,
Cold, a cold porcelain, low and round,
With nothing more than the carnations there.”</p>
<p>III
There would still remain the never resting mind…</p>
<p>I don’t think the above depiction is a “moment of perfection.”</p>
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<p>Moving on…</p>
<p>I got galls = bold and unashamed </p>
<p>Dictionary def: galls = effrontery and outrageous insolence</p>
<p>but I think I put desire for one question</p>
<p>avonlea, i agree with your reading, but disagree with the answer. the question asks what is the point of the ** image **. that image is to be juxtaposed against the imperfect, the hot paradise within us. although the point of the poem is to show us that it isn’t perfect, that image starts out as defining perfection. </p>
<p>galls-i don’t remember an answer choice for desire, but i think i put the one about ire and something else. it didn’t make sense to me in context for the speaker to admit to being bold and unashamed like the men, because the gall sort of represented the flaw that causes the revenge. bold an unashamed didn’t sound like a cause. oh, and flaw is another definition for gall. however, i think you could very well be right avonlea. wait, actually, disregard all of that. avonlea is right.</p>
<p>What did you put for ‘what is best representative of the revenge being discussed in this passage?’, and ‘what can be taken to mean the fall within the passage?’</p>
<p>I put revenge for the ‘fall’. my first thought was adultery, but when i reread the passage, i couldn’t find any hints about infidelity or anything, so i went with revenge (actually, i’m not too clear on this. was revenge even an answer choice?)</p>
<p>i put desires for ‘what is best taken to mean ‘affections’ in this passage’ question.</p>
<p>oh, and one more thing. what about the scant our former in despite question? what did you guys put for that?</p>
<p>Here is the passage:
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<p>NVM: it is adultery (“change us for others”)</p>
<p>Oh my Goodness. These passages (and questions, even) are all really familiar. I think this test may have been a repeat of the May 07 test, which was the one I took. x_X</p>
<p>I distinctly remember being puzzled by the flowers poem, getting stuck on the question that asks about the identity of the writer of the “grass is greener” selection, thinking that the senator carriage piece was pretty entertaining, and liking the husbands and wives passage.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-subject-tests-preparation/340627-may-07-literature.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-subject-tests-preparation/340627-may-07-literature.html</a></p>
<p>^ Link to the other thread, if anyone is interested.</p>
<p>On the second page, someone has listed all of the passages (full text).</p>