Off Campus Housing - Boston

<p>Hi everyone,
I have tried searching for this subject but didn't come up with anything so I hope this isn't a repeat thread.</p>

<p>My daughter is looking to move off campus in Boston starting September 1st and we have become aware of the "no more than four" ruling which states no more than four undergraduate students can live in an apartment in Boston, regardless of how many bedrooms the apartment has. </p>

<p>Well we are in a pretty nasty situation with a landlord, rental agency and our daughter regarding a potential rental for next year. Just wondering if anyone here has any first hand knowledge or direct experience with renting apartments in Boston and more specifically about this new law which took effect around March of 2008.</p>

<p>As always, thanks CC parents for your help.</p>

<p>Where in Boston does your D want to rent? Does she have roommates lined up? How much would she/they be willing to spend?</p>

<p>I thought the no more than 4 had been in effect for a while, to prevent college students pricing out families. It also forced universities to build more dorms, esp. Northeastern which had originally been essentially a commuter school but is now attracting more students from out-of-state.</p>

<p>Hmm, I’m curious as well, though it might be too late. S2 is deciding to move off campus for next year. He’s got two others he will room with and a place found but must pay a hefty fee to the agent, which none of us like. But places are going fast and a decision must be made. I’m waiting to hear whether he signed the lease today or continued looking. Have you tried posting on the thread affiliated with your D’s college?</p>

<p>Here is the text of the new law</p>

<p>Roommate Limitations in Boston: Text Amendment No. 346, Boston Zoning Commission, March 13, 2008. Changes the definitions in the Boston Zoning Code, so that five or more unrelated undergraduates may not share an apartment.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.lawlib.state.ma.us/docs/bostonzoningchanges.pdf[/url]”>http://www.lawlib.state.ma.us/docs/bostonzoningchanges.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Can you be more specific about your situation?</p>

<p>That law mirrors laws in most places. It may not be enforced in many jurisdictions but the no more than 4 unrelated adults law is common.</p>

<p>You guys were all great last summer with suggestions when D1 had her first Sept. 1st Boston move. I think she will be moving again. One of the girls is probably leaving the area, so the remaining two girls want to stay together.</p>

<p>Are you guys suggesting that kids are already looking at apartments for Sept. 1st??? How can property managers do this without even knowing whether the current tenants in any given place are staying or going?</p>

<p>teri:</p>

<p>My S is in an apartment building (not Boston) where the company asks tenants who are considering leaving during the year to notify it in JANUARY!</p>

<p>Many leases in the Boston area expire on Aug. 31, hence the scramble to move in on Sept. 1. Some leases expire on May 31. So, yes, I suggest your D begin to look again. If she waits until summer, the best apartments may be gone.</p>

<p>I think it depends on the area-- in the grad student populated areas it seems like most people find apartments for sept 1st between april and june. I think that the northeastern/bu populated areas are earlier.</p>

<p>Yes to experience with Boston rentals. D is a first year doctoral student, living in Boston/Brighton this year and moving closer to school in Sept. having already procured an apartment. If you read the rental listings on Craigs List…you will seem many/most apartments available in close proximity to colleges are being advertised now for Sept. 1 move in dates.</p>

<p>The four resident rule is being enforced, especially in neighborhoods with high resident complaints: particulary BU/BC/NU areas. This has resulted in some students being displaced mid-year, if the landlord or they are in violation of this law. Most leases specify the number of tenants and forbid sub-letting in any form. Most main entrance keys are now not-to-be-duplicated, making it difficult/inconvenient for students to ‘add’ room-mates not legally listed on the lease. </p>

<p>Other things to expect in the Boston market:
-Most land-lords list their apartments with rental agents. Most agents work on commission.
-Many apartments are being advertised now for Sept. 1, under the circumstances that Marite describes.
-Most will expect a deposit (usually equivalent to one month rent) to hold- at the time you verbally agree to an apartment. The lease will be signed within a few days of the verbal agreement.
-Many will expect an additional 3 months rent at the time of the lease signing, which in the end will add up to: first month rent, last month rent, security deposit and rental agent fee. (Agents fees vary from none -unusual- to 1/2 to full month rent.). Some landlords (not all) will allow payment of last month rent/security deposit over a period of time, especially if you are renting early (Jan. or Feb.) for Sept. 1 occupancy. This is significant up-front money that needs to be paid well in advance of occupancy.
-Many landlords will require parental ‘co-signers’ for students without adequate income.
-Some agents will attempt to show ‘model’ apartments. Insist on seeing the actual apartment you will be renting, to avoid surprises in Sept. ‘Model’ or ‘representative’ pictures are also widely used in ads on Craigs list. Be careful.</p>

<p>-Also be aware that some apartments are advertised as ‘splits’. This means that the living room area is counted as an additional bedroom. Thus an agent would advertise a true 1 bedroom apartment as a 2 bedroom (calling it a 1 bedroom split). This is legal given that a 1 bedroom apt. would have an occupancy permit for 2 people anyway. Split surprises can be avoided by firmly telling all showing agents, not to show splits if you do not wish to rent one.</p>

<p>-Garden level apt. usually translates into a basement apartment.</p>

<p>-Nice apartments do rent quickly.</p>

<p>-Agents will tell you (free) street parking is available. This is only partly true. It is available with a resident permit. In order to obtain a resident permit, your car must be registered to you at the address where you are living, thus requiring paying Boston insurance rates and Boston excise tax. Having a resident sticker still does not guarantee parking since more permits are issued than there are spaces available. Visitor spaces are few to non-existent, making having guests with cars a problem (this includes parents who drive in for visits!). Boston does not issue visitor placards/permits.</p>

<p>Sept. 1 moving in Boston (apts. and dorms) is crowded and can be frustrating. If you need to rent moving vans/trucks reserve early.</p>

<p>All this said, most landlords are decent and make good faith efforts to provide nice rental apartments and Boston City Hall Housing office is aware of and is effective in dealing with less than stellar landlords and their units.</p>

<p>A first off-campus apartment is very exciting and can and should be a great experience for students.</p>

<p>Does this 4 person limit apply to rented houses as well?</p>

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<p>It depends. In most cases…yes. The folks in these towns do not want more than 4 unrelated folks living in the same dwelling. BUT check each town’s policies…YMMV depending on the community.</p>

<p>Thanks CelloMom!</p>

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<p>I think they have to pin the 3rd roommate down and get a final answer from her. At any rate, she just started a new job last week and the office is in Cambridge, so I think she was hoping they could move there, because from Allston, it was taking her waaaay longer than she was used to commuting (her previous job was around Copley Place which was a fairly easy T ride). However, she just found out that the new office at her new job will be at Copley Place, so she’ll be back in an area she’s familiar with and is the easier commute. I think they’re more likely to find a better rental rate in Allston/Brighton/Brookline than Cambridge. I’ll have to ask her next time I talk to her if they’ve started to look.</p>

<p>I think she’s probably right that they may get better deals on the other side of the river. Copley Place is on the Green Line, so it gives her lots of possibilities. But I still suggest they start looking soon. There are students in Boston, too!:)</p>

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It does in Newton, Brookline, Brighton & Allston (the latter two are neighborhoods of Boston; the former two are separate municipalities). </p>

<p>No “Animal Houses” allowed.</p>

<p>Also, please note that at least in Newton and Brighton, the restriction is against more than four “unrelated persons” sharing a dwelling. Doesn’t matter if they’re undergraduates or senior citizens.</p>

<p>That same “four person” rule is in Newport RI. And I know it applies to houses too. A friend lived there…in a two family. There were two students in each apartment and there were THREE bedrooms in one of them.</p>