Off to Randolph-Macon Open House

<p>Well, not me actually. DW and S (Junior) are heading over for the weekend. It’s not a school that is talked about on this Board very much, but I would be interested in getting any impressions from others in advance of the trip so S can have some talking points. Based on what I’ve picked up so far, a few of the topics that I <em>hope</em> he at least looks into:</p>

<li><p>RMC’s retention and grad rates are okay, but (except for a huge jump in grad rate in 2003 that came right back down) a little lagging their peer group. What’s up with that? </p></li>
<li><p>Extent to which Greeks/Alcohol dominate the social life. </p></li>
<li><p>Suitcase school? I don’t think so, but it has a pretty sizeable in-state population so you never know. </p></li>
<li><p>Effect of part-time faculty (35+%) and how they are used. </p></li>
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<p>Any other points to talk about or be on the lookout for would be greatly appreciated. Points of a positive nature that S can look to confirm would be especially appreciated. I suppose he would say he’s discerning, but the guy has visited 5 schools so far, and the result has been to scratch 4 of them off his list! :eek:</p>

<p>I have no info but will be interested in what they find. We've gotten quite a bit of e-mail and real mail from them. Waiting with slightly baited breath for your info!</p>

<p>Don't know everything buts it not a big party school at all, and most kids do not go home for the weekend, a lot of entertainment is going into Richmond(not too far away) and playing sports and music, etc. The kids are very middle class, lots of first generation college kids, typical "sweet" girls, "sensitive guys" very nice people, not a TON of personality, generally nice people and very hardworking, classes are a big deal. graduation rates may not be great because cost, as I said very middle class population but the kids are sincere in their efforts to work, go to class and let loose now and then. The professors are extremely dedicated--expect small class sizes. It also has a beautiful historic campus if thats something you're interested in. Nice people, nice kids, somewhat competitive admissions becausethe N. VA corridor, however they do value sincere interest.</p>

<p>All that sounds good totallysweet. I'm interested, too. Randolph Macon College just sounds so ....so....so......"Virginian".</p>

<p>We had a very nice visit last year, but just like so many visits, ours was heavily biased (positively) by our tour guide, a truly outstanding young lady. She was a top swimmer and student govt officer and all-everything, very engaging, and of course had only positive things to say about RMC. We still use her favorite expression ("Very much so") in my family!!! </p>

<p>I did read one negative on this forum. Supposedly a student had a lot of trouble finding room in required courses. So much so that the student could not graduate on time. Don't know if this is even true, but it is worth asking about during an interview.</p>

<p>Shoo, Mudge. Too late for you now. Try telling your D (and W) that she should squeeze another app in!</p>

<p>I vaguely remember reading (on this board?) that students sometimes had difficulty getting their required courses. Maybe that is why the grad rate is lower than those of peer institutions? Please don't take that as a knock of RM--we did not look at this school for my son, who is now a college freshman. It is just something I think I recall. Try doing a search on this forum. Or better yet, ask when you visit. I now have a Junior daughter beginning the process, and would love to hear your impressions.</p>

<p>I just re-read the thread and saw NJRes's post--sorry!</p>

<p>Hmm. Thought I posted and it didn't show up. </p>

<p>Anyway, thanks NJ and Choc. I tracked down that comment on availability of classes and added it to my list. I would like to promise a full trip report, but I'm not going along this time and both DS AND DW just rolled their eyes at me when I suggested the keep good notes so I can follow up here. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>I'd be surprised about not being able to get a course--RMWC is small enough that one ought to be able to talk oneself into a course override from the professor. If that remains a worry, and your son enrolls, I'd encourage him to be proactive about such things.</p>

<p>I always liked that the train tracks went through campus. :-)</p>

<p>hoedown -- different school RMWC is the women's college in Lynchburg. Much as my son might wish to attend :) , this is the co-ed school in Ashland. But your point is still pertinent -- small schools should be able to handle these things. One poster on a different thread, however, said her daughter was stymied, despite going up the chain of command.</p>

<p>My mistake, not because I didn't know they were two different colleges, but because my fingers automatically typed R-MWC because I know it so well. </p>

<p>But it is, indeed, R-MC that has the tracks running through campus!</p>

<p>Well, DW and S are back with their impressions of R-MC after the open house. They were both impressed with the emphasis the school puts on a personal connection between faculty and students. It was stressed in several different contexts, and it seemed very sincere. The tour group they were in ran across a few professors who, on their own initiative, stopped to chat. The campus was generally quite attractive -- with older buildings there's always going to be the problem of keeping them up to date, but they were clean and well-maintained. Unfortunately, several of the building, particularly "down campus" were from the hideous late '50s to mid 60's school of architecture. </p>

<p>Greek life is quite obviously important, but no greek vs. independent vibes were picked up. Most greek events were open to all, and the houses themselves looked well-maintained. The crime report in the student newspaper looked pretty normal for a school that is surrounded by a city (even a suburb like Ashland). Twenty incidents between 11/9 and 11/16, mostly theft, suspicious person, one fight, trespass and one "students on roof". I have no idea. </p>

<p>The paper did have a front page story on two students who were robbed at gunpoint walking back from a club. Visits by my S seem to have this effect. On a trip to JMU last March, the front page story was an attempted murderer caught in the JMU parking lot. IN any event, the story contained this quote: "This incident is the latest in what seems to be an increase in crime committed by individuals unaffiliated with the college on or near campus since last spring. These incidents include an attempted abduction April 7, an attempted sexual assault Sept. 2 and several vehicle break-ins this semester. </p>

<p>Coincidentally, the paper had a letter to the editor that seemed to confirm that R-MC could do a better job in seeing that people get their classes. In this case, a Senior was complaining that his last required class was cancelled. In the letter he also mentioned that he has "tolerated not being in my first or second choice classes as a freshman or a sophomore". </p>

<p>Community service was nice to see. As an adjunct to the recent RMC versus Hampden-Sydney "big game" there is a week of non-athletic competitions to benefit the Children's Miracle Network. Despite losing the football game, RMC recaptured the overall Cup by "winning" the debate competion, the blood drive, the alumni golf tournament and the field goal kick. All in all, $372K+ was raised for Children's Miracle Network. Big kudos to both RMC and HSC for doing this. </p>

<p>Downsides: Pretty dead on weekends. Both W and S said the campus was empty at 11:00, and the dining hall had maybe 5 people in it at 12:30. Maybe a lot of people left early for Thanksgiving, but it gave a strong suitcase school appearance. Neither the library nor the recreation center were open when the tour came by, which seems like bad planning to me. Biggest concern, and this is something that both W and S really noticed -- for all the emphasis on teacher/student connections, there wasn't a focus on student/student interaction. And no student, not one, stopped and chatted with the tour, or even said "hey" to the tour guide, or even appeared to be talking to one another. The may have been a completely freak occurrence, but neither wife nor son got a friendly feeling from the students. Not unfriendly, but definitely not friendly. </p>

<p>Bottom line, for all of the details, the question always comes down to "can you see yourself here"? For R-MC it appears that my son will answer "No". I know people who's kids were very happy to attend, and I think it's a fine school, and the faculty/student thing is very positve. But I have to trust his instincts on where he'll be spending 4 years.</p>

<p>Re: dining hall empty at 12:30.. maybe the students are still all asleep after a long night of partying???? Just a thought :)</p>

<p>Well, it is a thought. Weekends are hard to gauge -- for that reason, S has said that he won't do any more Open Houses wo schools he visits. We'll go on a weekdays to, hopefully, get a better feel for campus. </p>

<p>Still, 5 people at 12:30? How much partying could they have done? :eek:</p>

<p>My D went to the open house at RMC in Oct. & Liked the school. I think she likes Goucher better....Randolph Macon seems like the school I would have loved (Sports & Greek life) but Goucher is more "artsey" which fits my daughter better. Of course I don't know if she'll get in at Goucher or what the finances will be?</p>

<p>The lack of friendly greetings on campus is disappointing. That's one of the things I've always liked about small colleges in the South that I have visited. </p>

<p>Hampden-Sydney actually had it written down when I spent a lot of time there--they have (or had) something like a "code" of expected behavior, and greeting others on campus is one of them. It had a name like "The Hampden-Sydney Way" or something. Maybe that sounds stodgily old-fashioned but I loved it.</p>

<p>Middle-Class kids? Really? You need to dig a little deeper into student profiles and alumni…historically anything but a middle-class school.</p>

<p>It is very “Virginia” and trust me thats not necessarily a bad thing…a great liberal arts school and a wonderful alternative to the “cold” institutions of the Northeast.</p>

<p>Bobo65, why did you dredge up this 8 year old thread?</p>

<p>:) as a parent looking for IS options for S14, I’m quite pleased that this popped up. May be too small for S, but I’m going to look at it. Hadn’t thought about it at all.</p>