Official 2008 Questbridge National College Match Discussion and Help

<p>Which income should we self-report, then?</p>

<p>Gross or net?</p>

<p>I believe the application asks for gross income; check it to be sure.</p>

<p>AGI: Adjusted Gross Income. Just use that line from your parents' tax return; I believe it is right on the first page. Very easy to access. No big complicated formulas.</p>

<p>Thanks for the clarification, 4th house. :)</p>

<p>Hi everyone! I received a letter from QB inviting me to apply. I am so excited because I can barely afford college, never mind an Ivy! My dream school is Princeton (I know there are no guarantees, but one can dream right?!).</p>

<p>I have a question about the financials. My mom has raised me alone all my life. Her ex (I wouldn't even call him dad because he was never there for me) was ordered to pay child support when I turned 12 after my mom became seriously ill. </p>

<p>He paid for one year ($109 a week), then quit his job of 20 years and disappeared. It took four years for enforcement to track him down and continue payments.</p>

<p>He has no contact with me or my mom whatsoever. I will turn 18 in December so the child support will end. Many times he doesn't even pay it on time.</p>

<p>I know I cannot depend on him to pay toward my college and if they try to make him it will hurt my chances since he will fight it for years.</p>

<p>I'm not sure how to deal with that on my financial paperwork. I don't want to be dishonest, but I also don't want my one shot at even the possibility of a scholarship shattered due to this situation.</p>

<p>Any advice would be greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>^ You will have ample space in the CSS Profile and the Questbridge application to explain/discuss. Just put in the information as truthfully as you can. You might also want to try asking your guidance counselor for help</p>

<p>tsprite: yours is a unique situation. The QB application should have a "non-custodial waiver," meaning that your non-custodial parent does not need to contribute to your education. PM me if you have trouble with it--I too had to fill it out and send it, and things can get a little messy.</p>

<p>I'm sorry if this has already been asked, but what kind of incomes are they looking for? I got a mail about QB and I'm middle-income, so I don't think I'd qualify, but I figure it may be worth a shot.</p>

<p>^ Look at the income distribution on the website. The majority of people who are matched have incomes < $60,000 but it also says, for certain reasons, families with greater incomes may still have financial difficult - and are encouraged to apply!</p>

<p>this thread is awsome!</p>

<p>from Amherst: "The moment you are identified as a QuestBridge applicant, you are prioritized in a way that very few applicants are. When you're a QuestBridge student, you're in a priority bin. They've got a leg up in a way that perhaps an athlete or legacy would have a leg up. "
is this only from Amherst or is this the case for other schools as well? How much of a role does QB play in admissions to top schools such HYP?
it says on the Yale website:
"Are my chances of getting in to Yale different depending on how I apply?
QuestBridge College Match applicants are evaluated by the same high standards as all Yale applicants, taking into account the entire context of a student’s high school program, family circumstances and personal achievements. Only the timing of the decision and the notification varies somewhat because of the Questbridge application timeline. "</p>

<p>"this thread is awsome!</p>

<p>from Amherst: "The moment you are identified as a QuestBridge applicant, you are prioritized in a way that very few applicants are. When you're a QuestBridge student, you're in a priority bin. They've got a leg up in a way that perhaps an athlete or legacy would have a leg up. "
is this only from Amherst or is this the case for other schools as well? How much of a role does QB play in admissions to top schools such HYP?
alexblake is online now "</p>

<p>I think that top colleges have, for some time now, started considering an applicant's background-first generation status, income, etcetera- more heavily than his race alone (this is my speculation). QuestBridge is simply a program that attempts to identify good students from low-income backgrounds and get them to apply to top universities. They do this by providing incentives: full scholarships, an application process that mirrors early decision/early action.</p>

<p>I'm not an admissions officer, but i would argue that the mere "QuestBridge Finalist" status does not directly influence an admission decision. It is true that to become a QuestBridge Finalist you need to have shown significant marginalization-and show that you have overcome this-but, like i said, it is not the title that gets you an acceptance, it's your background and what you have done to succeed in it.</p>

<p>Harvard isn't a QuestBridge partner and therefore does not evaluate the QuestBridge application in the admission decisions. </p>

<p>hope i helped</p>

<p>thanks! just to clarify things is this the list of ALL QB partner colleges?</p>

<p>Amherst College
Bowdoin College
California Institute of Tech
Chicago, University of
Claremont McKenna College
Columbia University
Emory University
Haverford College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Northwestern University
Notre Dame, University of
Oberlin College
Parsons The New School for Design
Pennsylvania, University of
Pomona College
Princeton University
Rice University
Scripps College
Stanford University
Swarthmore College
Trinity College
Vassar College
Wellesley College
Wesleyan University
Williams College
Yale University</p>

<p>Yes. </p>

<p>I urge everyone, even if you're not participating in the College Match program, to fill out the QuestBridge application and send it in for the regular decision round-as a supplement to each colleges' individual application.</p>

<p>Bamboozler:</p>

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I'm sorry if this has already been asked, but what kind of incomes are they looking for? I got a mail about QB and I'm middle-income, so I don't think I'd qualify, but I figure it may be worth a shot.

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<p>The overwhelming majority of students have incomes under $60,000. Here are the income distributions that laststopforme mentioned:</p>

<p><a href="http://questbridge.org/cmp/finalist_profiles/2007_finalists.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://questbridge.org/cmp/finalist_profiles/2007_finalists.pdf&lt;/a> (finalist profile)
[url=<a href="http://www.questbridge.org/students/profiles_class2012/stats.html%5DNational"&gt;http://www.questbridge.org/students/profiles_class2012/stats.html]National&lt;/a> College Match Program: 2007 College Match Recipient Profile<a href="match%20profile">/url</a>
[url=<a href="http://www.questbridge.org/students/profiles_class2012/reg_admit_stats.html%5DNational"&gt;http://www.questbridge.org/students/profiles_class2012/reg_admit_stats.html]National&lt;/a> College Match Program: 2007 Regular Admissions Admit Statistics<a href="regular%20admit%20profile">/url</a></p>

<p>As you can see, the lowest income is for those matched; then those chosen as finalists; and then those who got in RD. In many cases, RD students don’t get quite the scholarship package that they would have through the match, but they do get generous aid.</p>

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is this only from Amherst or is this the case for other schools as well? How much of a role does QB play in admissions to top schools such HYP?

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<p>That was just a quote from the Amherst dean of admissions, but I think that it’s roughly the same at all schools; that is, after all, why they’re participating in QB.</p>

<p>Only Yale and Princeton are partners; Harvard is not. I’d say it gives you a boost, and that they probably look at the QB pool with the unique characteristics (and unifying theme of “high-achieving, low-income”). It’s not always so easy to say, though. 1,100 students ranked Stanford last year; 16 of those students were matched. About 100 more students got in RD. That makes the acceptance rate about the same for students going through QB. However, acceptance rates cannot speak to the difficulty of admission, as a general rule of thumb.</p>

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Are my chances of getting in to Yale different depending on how I apply?
QuestBridge College Match applicants are evaluated by the same high standards as all Yale applicants, taking into account the entire context of a student’s high school program, family circumstances and personal achievements. Only the timing of the decision and the notification varies somewhat because of the Questbridge application timeline.

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<p>I think that’s how it will be at any school. They will not go “easy” on you. They will, however, take your background and income into consideration, which can give you a boost. It’s the “context” that Yale speaks of.</p>

<p>That list in post #272 is the full list, though more may be added in the future. I don't think you'll get any more this season, though.</p>

<p>Interesting note: three years ago ago, 46 students were matched. The next year, 103 students were matched. At a conference, Tim Brady said he did not expect the number of students matched last year to double again. But then it did--204 students were matched. In that year, 5 partner schools were added (15 to 20, I believe). So extrapolating on that, with 26 partner schools now, can the number of students matched double again? Perhaps this year over 400 students will be matched? And who knows how many accepted RD?</p>

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I urge everyone, even if you're not participating in the College Match program, to fill out the QuestBridge application and send it in for the regular decision round-as a supplement to each colleges' individual application.

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<p>I wouldn't recommend this unless you're actually a low-income student.</p>

<p>kyledavid80, where can I find how many students ranked each school, such as the Stanford #'s you posted above? thanks</p>

<p>As far as I know, QB does not release those statistics. I have contacted them requesting that they do.</p>

<p>I got the 1,100 figure from an article from the Stanford Daily, which presumably interviewed Tim Brady.</p>

<p>University</a> admits 16 through QuestBridge - The Stanford Daily Online</p>

<p>My D got a brochure in the mail... the cover letter said they got her info from College Board... I'm confused. We're not low-income, though my D is Arab-American...</p>

<p>Does Questbridge routinely market this to non-low-income kids?</p>

<p>Regarding the school rankings:</p>

<p>Say I only apply to the non-binding schools for early admissions and don't match with any of them; does that mean that QuestBridge won't send my application to any other schools since the only schools that have my app. are the ones to which I applied for early admission?</p>

<p>How do you let QuestBridge know that there are other schools you want to apply to, and are partners, but not for early admission and instead for regular decision? Also, is the maximum number of partner colleges to which you can apply to eight?</p>

<p>Lastly, if you can get matched to more than one school RD, how do you choose which one to accept admission to since most partner colleges are binding?</p>

<p>So confused... =(</p>

<p>you can rank certain schools for the "match" and then have others forwarded to RD. Last year there were two different sections to check them off. Also, if you do not get a match but go forward to the RD round, no school is then binding. You choose the best school for you from your acceptances.</p>

<p>abuwalker:</p>

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My D got a brochure in the mail... the cover letter said they got her info from College Board... I'm confused. We're not low-income, though my D is Arab-American...</p>

<p>Does Questbridge routinely market this to non-low-income kids?

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<p>They get only the scores from the College Board, not the income status of the students, so some who receive the invitation are not eligible.</p>

<p>Olive_Tree:</p>

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Say I only apply to the non-binding schools for early admissions and don't match with any of them; does that mean that QuestBridge won't send my application to any other schools since the only schools that have my app. are the ones to which I applied for early admission?

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<p>No, QuestBridge will forward your application to any of the partner colleges you ask them to, and that includes those you ranked and those that you didn't rank.</p>

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How do you let QuestBridge know that there are other schools you want to apply to, and are partners, but not for early admission and instead for regular decision?

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<p>There is a specific part of the application, near the end, where you check off all the ones that you want to apply to RD.</p>

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Also, is the maximum number of partner colleges to which you can apply to eight?

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<p>8 is the maximum.</p>

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Lastly, if you can get matched to more than one school RD, how do you choose which one to accept admission to since most partner colleges are binding?

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<p>Just for clarification, there is only one time that you can be matched: during the National College Match round (a.k.a. the Match round). In that round, which is in November, you may be matched to a school that you rank; in most cases, you are bound to attend (with the exceptions of Yale, Stanford, Princeton, Notre Dame, and MIT). However, in the RD round, you aren't "matched" to any; you may get into multiple schools, and you are not bound to attend any of them. It's just like everyone else getting in RD.</p>