Official 2008 Questbridge National College Match Discussion and Help

<p>HEY!!
I also have a question about Questbridge. What if I don't want to go through the matching process and want to apple regular decision to some of the partner schools?</p>

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<li> When should I submit the Questbridge application?</li>
<li> Is it a disadvantage to not go through the matching process?</li>
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<p>Thank you guys soo much!!!</p>

<p>Oh yeah,
and if applying through Questbridge for Regular Decision, is the deadline Sept. 30 or the normal Jan 1?? PLease help!!</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>The deadline to send the application in is Sept. 30 and the deadline to chose which schools to forward the Questbridge application to for consideration in the RD round is the first week of December.</p>

<p>Even if I don't want go through the matching process, it's still due Sept 30? Thanks!</p>

<p>Hey guys, I am currently debating whether or not to apply through questbridge this coming month. My top choices are Stanford and Columbia (really cannot pick between the 2). The thing with QB is that i worry the chances are going to be really low, considering the colleges are planning to give the applicants full rides. Which one of these choices would give me the highest chance of admission? Which one should i do?
1. Questbridge
2. Early decision Columbia (20% or so on website, much higher than regular)
3. Early Action Stanford (14%, slightly higher than regular)</p>

<p>a couple factors that might influence the decision
-money is no longer a factor becuase if i get in either way i am gonna get a lot of financial aid (which probably takes away from Questbridge)
-I have gotten a slight head start on apps, and i am already done with all testing (which would favor QB since its 2 months earlier)</p>

<p>As I understand it, the major difference is that if you simply apply ED to either school, the one thing they will NOT know about you is that you may have overcome some financially-related obstacles in order to achieve what you have thus far achieved. If you apply via Questbridge, they will automatically be contextualizing your achievements by saying, "Oh, he or she did all this without the benefits that a wealthier kid may have had (expensive SAT prep, expensive private school, expensive summer experiences, expensive private lessons of some sort, etc.). Sure, you could elaborate on all that in your essays, but that would limit what else you could talk about in revealing yourself to adcoms. With Questbridge, that's already a given. It also automatically allows the college in question to begin looking at you in terms of the economic diversity you would bring to campus, as most top schools are top-heavy in wealthy students.</p>

<p>^ I have the same dilemma, and although what you said (4th house), may be true, don't you have to at least somewhat elaborate on your financial difficulties when applying through questbridge, which is the same exact application the colleges will be reading, which therefore takes away room from elaborating on other more personal issues (although I am very well aware of the fact that questbridge has three extensive essays).</p>

<p>Are non U.S. citizen/permanent resident elligeble for National College Match?
I am from a low-income family but I am applying as an international student.</p>

<p>tsprite:</p>

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No one in my family has ever gone to college. My mom (who is disabled and alone with me) is trying to help, but this is all very confusing to us both.

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<p>Exactly the same for me. It all worked out in the end, so I promise there’s a very bright light at the end of the tunnel. :)</p>

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I know you don't have a crystal ball - do you? - but I just wanted feedback on whether I should apply to QB.

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<p>Just from what you described, you epitomize the QuestBridge applicant/finalist/match recipient. ;) You are a high achiever (many ECs, SAT, hard work to make up missed classes, and so on), and you have overcome many adversities.</p>

<p>Yes, the application is long. But I would say that it does look deceptively long—a lot of it really does just fly by. The longest part, really, is the essays. That does not mean, however, that the essays are hard; they are not, as long as you choose an appropriate, strong topic, and you are honest and frank. Other than that, the application itself can be completed in less than two hours, definitely.</p>

<p>I would really recommend that you apply. :)</p>

<p>Quicksandslowly:</p>

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About part where it says "Transcript & Test scores" do I send that in on the September 30th deadline or if I become a finalist?

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<p>You must submit it, and all other required documents (such as teacher recommendations) by the September 30th deadline.</p>

<p>cc3c:</p>

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What if I don't want to go through the matching process and want to apple regular decision to some of the partner schools?

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<p>I believe that you can do that. You would just check off which schools you want to apply to in the regular round.</p>

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1. When should I submit the Questbridge application?

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<p>You still must submit it by the September 30th deadline.</p>

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2. Is it a disadvantage to not go through the matching process?

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<p>No, it isn’t.</p>

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and if applying through Questbridge for Regular Decision, is the deadline Sept. 30 or the normal Jan 1??

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<p>The deadline to submit the QuestBridge application, even if you would just like your application forwarded to the RD round, is September 30th. It will be forwarded before the January 1st RD deadline.</p>

<p>mwhtw:</p>

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Which one of these choices would give me the highest chance of admission? Which one should i do?
1. Questbridge
2. Early decision Columbia (20% or so on website, much higher than regular)
3. Early Action Stanford (14%, slightly higher than regular)

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<p>Though I don’t think you should pigeonhole yourself and think of this as “Which do I have the best chances at?”, I would say 1. QuestBridge: it flags you as a high-achieving, low-income student, gives you an opportunity to really expand on your situation and your passions (more so than any other application I know of), and guarantees that you will be considered again if you don’t get in early (few students are deferred from Columbia ED or Stanford SCEA). Oh, and if matched, you’d get a full, four-year scholarship. ;)</p>

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-money is no longer a factor becuase if i get in either way i am gonna get a lot of financial aid (which probably takes away from Questbridge)

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<p>Stanford’s financial aid is roughly the same. (Though in the Match package, it says a travel allowance is given based on location, but they expect other students to pay for it themselves, with summer and work-study earnings.)</p>

<p>Columbia’s varies, though I’d say they’re usually very similar to the Match package.</p>

<p>4th house’s post #326 is accurate.</p>

<p>Anonymous91:</p>

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don't you have to at least somewhat elaborate on your financial difficulties when applying through questbridge, which is the same exact application the colleges will be reading, which therefore takes away room from elaborating on other more personal issues

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<p>QuestBridge’s application is more thorough. It has a very long biographical essay (up to 800 words), two shorter essays (which are 500 words each), and a bunch of short answers.</p>

<p>In addition, for the few colleges that require an additional application/supplement, that gives you even more space to elaborate on your application.</p>

<p>scarecrowluv:</p>

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Are non U.S. citizen/permanent resident elligeble for National College Match?

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<p>They are. However, only two QB partner schools consider international applicants for the Match round: Princeton and Yale.</p>

<p>National</a> College Match Program: FAQ</p>

<p>(It’s possible that some of the newer partners also consider internationals, if this isn’t updated, but you can just count on the above two as the only ones who consider internationals for the Match round.)</p>

<p>^^^thx for ur reply kyledavid80
however, i am leaning towards applying for Columbia ED, even Stanford EA. here are my reasons:</p>

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<li><p>looking through the match reciepient profiles on QB, stanford and other top tier schools offered less than 20 positions each last year. this was out of 1700 finalists. realisitcally, even though i understand how QB gives u more oppourtunities to express your situation, the % of QB is gonna be much lower than that of ED or EA</p></li>
<li><p>QB has an emphasis on scholarship, rather than admission. i think that would make the college think more carefully about offering admission.</p></li>
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<p>what do you think? im really leaning towards doing columbia ED!</p>

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1. looking through the match reciepient profiles on QB, stanford and other top tier schools offered less than 20 positions each last year. this was out of 1700 finalists. realisitcally, even though i understand how QB gives u more oppourtunities to express your situation, the % of QB is gonna be much lower than that of ED or EA

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<p>True, but many more get in RD. As I've said before, the RD round for QB applicants is much better, and really shows how much QB can help.</p>

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2. QB has an emphasis on scholarship, rather than admission. i think that would make the college think more carefully about offering admission.

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<p>I wouldn't say that, so much as that they are looking for those who truly need it.</p>

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im really leaning towards doing columbia ED!

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<p>If that's really your first choice, then go for it. :) There's no real loss in applying through QB, though.</p>

<p>^^ "but many more get in RD"
QB stats indicate that. however, for the top tier schools, they dont accept QB RD, they normally want common app. So being named as a finalist is a big help, even if you just put it on the common app? is that wat it is?</p>

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however, for the top tier schools, they dont accept QB RD, they normally want common app. So being named as a finalist is a big help, even if you just put it on the common app? is that wat it is?

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<p>Some want an application/supplement in addition to the QB app. It is unclear how much emphasis they put on each. Being named a finalist is good, but that's not the only consideration, I'd say. Again, from QB's site:</p>

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The moment you are identified as a QuestBridge applicant, you are prioritized in a way that very few applicants are. When you're a QuestBridge student, you're in a priority bin. They've got a leg up in a way that perhaps an athlete or legacy would have a leg up.</p>

<p>Tom Parker
Dean of Admission
& Financial Aid
Amherst College

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<p>Read through the past posts--the advantage of QB in the RD round has been discussed much.</p>

<p>^^^ there is a problem: the schools im considering (the ivies, stanford) say that for RD they want the common app. Does that mean that they will take QB as a suppliment or that they wont take QB at all?</p>

<p>link is QuestBridge</a> National College Match - Regular Decision Table</p>

<p>btw i can see how using QB as RD will help you. stats on website seem to confirm that. so thx for clearing that up for me</p>

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Does that mean that they will take QB as a suppliment or that they wont take QB at all?

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<p>How colleges that require an additional application view the QB app is unclear, but I'd say it's usually used as a supplement. One of my admissions officers commented on an essay that I put only on the QB app.</p>

<p>Sorry, I'm a little confused. After reading some of the RD policies of the schools, some of them say you can't use the QB application at all (such as Princeton), so this means that your QB application is not seen at all,and is not carried into the RD round, yet somehow you are still seen as a QB applicant when you apply separately with the common application?</p>

<p>ive also got a question. im starting to put together ideas for my essays and i mean qb says to talk about your obstacles and stuff and my essays so far are about an immigration problem and a time when i met this kid in my middle school. my question is does it sound bad to do this b/c i dont wanna write to make it seem like im getting shot at by drug dealers etc but those essays are the ones i think i could write best and i think they would be strong. so do i go w/ what i have or should i come up w/ something thats less pity partyish?</p>

<p>Anonymous: yes, you get earmarked as being a QB Finalist</p>

<p>There seems to be some confusion about the process so here's how it works:</p>

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<li><p>September 30: You complete the QuestBridge application. Even though you start ranking schools then, these applications are not <em>yet</em> forwarded.</p></li>
<li><p>Late October: You're named a QB Finalist. This means that your QB application may be forwarded to some of your ranked schools (depending upon the schools policy). I <em>think</em> you're given an opportunity to revise the application before final submittal but someone correct me if I'm wrong. </p></li>
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<p>Some of the Ivies and other large-name schools require you complete the Common App instead. You are still flagged as a QB Finalist and the application fee is waived because of it (nice bonus when you're applying to 5-8 schools). </p>

<p>You have the Common App stuff plus some financial docs (as required by the school) due in only a few weeks so prepare as much of this stuff ahead of time if possible!</p>

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<li>December 1: You get one (1) accept from the topmost ranked QB school that accepted you. Unless this is a binding offer, the rest of your applications can be forwarded to RD. If you don't get an offer, you can also forward to RD (where you are still flagged as a QB finalist).</li>
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<p>fastdry- Write about what's really affected you. If those would be the best essays, and they are accurate portrayals or your life, then it's not "pity-partyish", it's giving the adcoms what they want (an essay giving them insight into your personal life). So ya, go for it.</p>

<p>Jakor,
so if you're applying to stanford or the ivies, and you end up having it fowarded to RD, the schools will only know whether u were a QB finalist or not. they will not see the QB app at all? thats wat it seems to be</p>