<p>no college would mark asian as (-3) on their rubric. Not even UMich did that lol. That is so bogus.</p>
<p>This is a load of crock.</p>
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Colleges only care about this IF your school offers them. They’re certainly not going to punish a kid who could take 0 ap’s, yet has taken all honors and is ranked number 1.</p>
<p>And there is no way in hell a top college would consider a 3.5 gpa equivalent to a 3.9. (Or, for that matter, only give 1 point less to someone with a 3.5 as opposed to a 4.0).</p>
<p>For the record, according to this I’m at least in the 130-140 range.
My top schools are a reach for me though. You know why? It’s because they’re a reach for just about everyone that applies. You can’t make a comparison bullet point list like this. It just doesn’t work that way. Every year kids with incredible stats get rejected from top schools, without a hint of a reason why.</p>
<p>This is so ridiculous , I was laughing that anyone would believe it. Besides, the -3 for Asians, 0 for a public school (eg Boston Latin, Stuyvesant) but 4 points for private schools. Points for parents being famous, how does one define famous.Females in engineering 3 points, what about males in art history. College never enrolled anyone in your area, probably less of a chance because they do not know your school. I guess a great hook would be a famous professor , who is an alumnus who donates money.</p>
<p>i think this more of an unofficial rubric for general ‘chances’, not one that might be used specifically for an actual college. Although the word ‘OFFICIAL’ does make me suspicious…</p>
<p>I got a 97. I was rejected SCEA from Yale. Hm. </p>
<p>Total points = 212?
The max that an Asian/public/non-athlete/noncelebrity/nonlegacy can get is around a 121, assuming perfect rank/GPA/SATs/essays/recommendations/ECs/no others of same race in school/more than 500 miles from college.</p>
<p>Seems a bit farfetched, given the points that other posters have made. But then again, Ivy League admissions are pretty farfetched, too.</p>
<p>FellowCCViewer, you must play a sport pretty well/have famous parents, no?</p>
<p>That rubric is skewed. Totally. </p>
<p>Not every college uses that. In fact, some colleges don’t even bother to LOOK at your race. Not only that, but how can a 2.5 GPA be 4 less points than a 4.0 while just being Asian is -3 points? Some colleges barely even GET Asian applicants (i.e. University of Colorado-Boulder.) </p>
<p>I wouldn’t use that “guide.” Some of the best colleges admit tons of students from public high schools too (i.e. Tufts).</p>
<p>^
ALL of the best colleges admit tons of students from public high schools.</p>
<p>I figured as much after I saw that the Dartmouth freshman class was 50% from public high school versus 30% from private high school.</p>
<p>While I believe there may be minimum levels (like SAT’s & GPA which are adjusted for certain hooks like good football player, urm, virtuoso in something, etc.), I think that the criteria remain fluid. If that were not the case the schools could not build the kind of student body they would like. In the end, when it comes to two candidates who look virtually the same and one gets in and the other does not, there is usually some sort of subjective quality (not a rubic) that determines the result.</p>
<p>However, if one wanted to build a rubric, it would be possible to get an start if one had data of acceptances and rejections from say top schools using regression or discriminant analysis. Actually, good HS could do this for their students if they had a mind to. The coefficents would give you the defacto weights for GPA, SAT’s, EC’s etc. But you need a fair amount of data to have confidence and it would not be like what is posted here.</p>
<p>my best friend has a score of prob between 70-90
she just got into a top ten school- literally one of the best LAC’s in the country with an acceptance rate of below 15%.
that just goes to show how this is completely ridiculous and doesn’t give enough weight to EC’s/recs/essays/GPA. she totally deserves to be going to her school.
no offense but i really hope no one takes this to heart- just because you haven’t written a children’s book doesn’t mean you can’t get into a great school</p>
<p>Uh, this is totally inaccurate.
- Essays should be worth a ton more
- GPA is SO skewed. All A’s = 16, All C’s = 10? No way.
- National Honor = up to 3?
- Sports are not necessarily only worthwhile when affiliated with school. (i.e. I am a nationally ranked rodeo competitor, unaffiliated with school. I would think that this should be worth a bit more than someone who plays intramural badminton.)
- There is no weight at all given to local, regional, state awards. It’s national or bust.</p>
<p>Edit: Hmm. I got 103. I am applying to HYPS, Columbia, Duke, Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, Cornell, and some safeties. I was deferred from Stanford EA (DEFERRED. Not rejected. Plenty of people who would have scored 120+ were outright rejected.). I expect to get into Northwestern, Johns Hopkins, and Cornell at the very least, and my unofficial adviser who has two kids at Yale expects me to get into at least one of HYPSC.</p>
<p>I got 114 while being pretty tough on myself(I think). Hopefully I’ll get into the schools I applied to.</p>
<p>And ilk07 - no LAC has an acceptance rate under 15%, so I’m not sure where you are suggesting this person got in.</p>
<p>This thread is so bogus that it will make anixous college applicants worried about applying. Essays, Recs, and E/Cs are what make or break an application to HYPS. If you just take ONE look at the Stanford or Yale early app results, the you’ll see that people who would have gotten 130+ according to this scale have been REJECTED or DEFERRED. There is no way a person can accurately judge on you chances of being accepted without know the WHOLE person, not just GPA, SAT, a list of E/Cs, and race.</p>
<p>wow whats wrong with you guys lol
do you even bother reading the whole thing
it says it might not be accurate
and you know what my post said 'CHANCE AT GETTING INTO TOP COLLEGE, IVY, HYPSM" plus you are grading yourself the college may grade you different, plus every year they expect different things.</p>
<p>Another thing, asians do GET -3, im asian myself and they have the least advantages, since all people think all we do is to study all the time, trust me, asians have the hardest time getting into college</p>
<p>hey im just trying to help here, believe what you want, i think my rubric is pretty accurate</p>
<p>also 10 points is big deal, it mean from a second rate college to having a chance at a top college</p>
<p>another thing, colleges may tell you that race doesn’t mater but it does.
they secretly consider it. for example, if you are black and has a pretty solid transcript, you are almost guarenteed to get into a top college. asians, on the other hand, many are rejected</p>
<p>plus the fact that many things i put down are open ended</p>
<p>example:
how many Ap classes were taken
how many ECs and such</p>
<p>So apparently a female in engineering is a new race.</p>
<p>haha i was misinformed… it’s more like 22% sorry but still…</p>
<p>and rwang
“trust me, asians have the hardest time getting into college”
aren’t you a FRESHMAN? so how do you know…? i’m pretty sure you haven’t applied to college anywhere.</p>
<p>this post was prob meant with good intentions, but the fact is all it does is make people feel either overly confident or completely hopeless</p>
<p>both of my parents are professors so i think id know more than you do ilk07</p>
<p>professors aren’t on admissions committees, generally speaking.</p>
<p>some of what you’re saying is true, like that being an urm helps. that doesn’t mean your scale isn’t ridiculous and wrong.</p>
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So is my mom (not at any of the schools that I’m applying to) AND she has served on admissions boards.
I think I know more than you on this topic.</p>
<p>And no school automatically goes “oh gee! An Asian! Let’s dock 3 points from their total!” Please. It’s not so cut and dry as that. You have to look at the whole picture- not just some made up set of numbers.</p>
<p>I, for one, would like to see the source of your so called formula.</p>