@SKTT1Impact, Go Big or Go Home, I like your style (and sorry about those rejections, @#$% them). What order are you going to check them in? Alphabetical? Favorite? Most-confident-you’ll-get-in? Random?
For the record, the only reason why I didn’t apply to all 8 was that I preferred going to Hopkins (which I am happy to have gotten in to) over Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth.
Yeah, I’ve been accepted to Johns Hopkins. For the conservatory program though (Lol).
It’s not a really a go big or go home attitude, it’s just being smart about admissions; with the way odds work out, and the fact I had a relative that said they’d pay for the application fee, there’s no reason not to give oneself that chance.
Anyway, we’ll see. I plan on calling and retrieving my rejections on April 4th-6th.
Congrats, you did get in somewhere! You are clearly a gifted musician and as an URM (you intrigued me so I read some of your other posts), I think you will get into a number of them. No way I could wait that long for the news.
There’s not a big divide between the Ivies (which are not very monolithic and actually have a decent range in quality by any way that you measure quality) and non-Ivies.
I’m sorry, only a teenager or the seriously deluded would think otherwise.
For one, there are some schools that are as good as at least some of the Ivies (again, by any metric of your choice) and another set of schools that are so close that there’s not much difference.
Then you have those schools where specific programs are as good as/better than and can get you as far as the Ivies.
There are few threads sadder than ones you see in the Transfer forum where some kid is looking to transfer because, while he got in to, say, UChicago and thought that was a perfect fit, he chose UPenn because it’s an Ivy and now he hates it there because the school doesn’t fit his personality at all, but it’s very unlikely that he’d transfer in to UChicago now because they take virtually no transfers, so if he transfers out, it would be to a lower tier school.
If you have the money, and are interested in several of the Ivies, why not go for all of them? It’s interesting just to see the different prompts, and compare the alumni interviews.
If you think the name matters, why not go for it?
As long as you go into it with open eyes, and let’s say, aren’t just applying to the eight Ivies and that’s it.
Quest Bridge certainly makes being a crazy eighter easier than it could have been, so they must agree it matters.
And yes, I can see someone who likes UChicago not liking Penn - UChicago has a reputation for being stuck up, nerdy, dirty…
@cttwenty15
That’s funny you mention URM: due to ancestry on my mothers side, who has custody of me now, I applied to colleges as white- so there won’t be an advantage there. It was a personal choice for my heritage, although sometimes I regret it. Conservatory admissions (I applied and auditioned to 7 conservatories) do not weigh race at all though, outside of scholarship at lower level schools, so I’ve been fine there, including Peabody.
I guess my rationale for waiting is that I don’t want to be in the situation where I go and retrieve my password from my other hard drive and log in to each and every account to see the same screen on every one. I don’t know; I’d rather someone tell me over the phone while I’m sitting and waiting in the library.
@PurpleTitan
The attraction of an Ivy League school to me is the quality of people attending the school.
The opportunity and reputation “prestige” that you speak of are merely manifestations of these benefits.
@SKTT1Impact, and again, the quality of the student body can be matched by schools outside the Ivy League.
By what metric are you measuring the quality of the people attending a school?
@PurpleTitan
I disagree. A fair amount of schools can match Ivy Leagues in terms of numbers, but the unique and most promising students can be best found to attend Ivy Leagues instead of their high achieving counterparts. I say this while disregarding schools that should be in the Ivy League like Stanford and Uchicago, and smaller schools like Caltech and MIT.
@SKTT1Impact if you exclude all the schools that should be in the Ivy League what does that mean? It seems like that could probably be the top 20 universities and a number of LACs. It doesn’t really seem like the ivies have the most intellectual reputations so I’m not sure how the student body is superior in how unique and promising they are.
@SKTT1Impact You are very much wrong that the most “promising students can be best found to attend Ivy Leagues instead of their high achieving counterparts.” There are many young people in the USA and throughout the world who are very much “Ivy League” capable, however they cannot afford the high sticker price of the Ivy League. You will find equal to superior individuals to yourself at every level of post secondary educational institution, and in fact some non-college educated individuals who are every bit as “promising” as you think you are.
I agree with both @PurpleTitan and @jmbakh, and even a quick review of USNews’ National University rankings list Stanford, UofC, Johns Hopkins and others higher than Brown and Cornell. However, a discussion about which schools with “intellectual reputations” should have been on @SKTT1Impact’s list is pointless, there was little research done in determining the application list… there is no time to add schools and no need for regrets.
I applied to three Ivies, but if I had been admitted to UChicago, I would have gone there, rather than anywhere else. It’s at least as good, in some respects better, than the Ivies, and I felt like I would fit in there. And it’s not the only school that’s no worse than an Ivy.
I don’t really see anything wrong with applying to all eight Ivies if you can afford it and the name brand is important to you. You will get a quality education if you don’t squander the opportunity.
So you don’t have any way to back up your assertion that the quality of Ivy student bodies is better (because there actually is no data that would support that), but you just know that they are better.
It’s clear that you’re a teenager, and if you weren’t and had actually been out in the world and had met Ivy Leaguers and folks from other schools, I’d consider you seriously deluded.
@rhandco “UChicago has a reputation for being stuck up, nerdy, dirty…” You’ll find that reputation that a lot of places, even Ivies.
Ivy League schools add prestige to a diploma that other schools don’t have. There are great students at every Ivy League school.
I may be wrong about the overarching quality and difference between them and their peer institutions, or lack thereof, but in that case, I’ll reword what I’ve said. I agree that there are other great schools out there, and some that go farther than the Ivy League schools.
To say that my research for my “college list” was fallible and immature is ignorant; it clearly states in the first post of this thread that I literally applied to all eight Ivy Leagues for fun. I have the scores and the GPA (well, not really), and I felt like doing it since it was an opportunity presented to me. If anything, the fact I chose to apply to the Ivy League instead of all the other schools that echo around their same caliber only proves my point that they carry more weight than others. Or, you could say that’s just the “teenager” (Yes, I am a teenager, by the way. Good catch!) in me reasoning.
Besides, why does it matter? I want the name. I want the quality of education. The Ivy Leagues have that.
This was an interesting thread and helped pass the time. Thank you, @SKTT1Impact, and hope tonight went OK for you!
@cttwenty15
Thanks! You too (if applicable).
So, I flipped a coin to see if I should check Columbia, and I did; then it kind of spiraled out of control. That and I found that not all colleges are able to give such information over the phone. I lied, and I checked my admissions early.
Anyway- I’m very happy to say I’ve been accepted into Dartmouth College, and flat rejected from the others. What a night, especially because I looked at Dartmouth last.
@Homeless2Harvard , did you hear any good news?