<p>@czs1994, I’m curious as to why it takes CP so long to send out the 35,000 plus denials especially since they already have a waitlist. I did ask admissions that question last week and her answer was that they are still crunching numbers, but that most students have heard by now on whether they got in. Other schools send out their offers/denials at the same time so that is what is frustration for so many that are still waiting. It’s just confusing that’s all. I do appreciate your posts and look forward to hearing from you:).</p>
<p>Wow! Sue? Sunshine Act? </p>
<p>The process these days is simple. Submit an app, keep your fingers crossed, chose your favorite school from the ones you get into and move on.</p>
<p>Life is full of injustice, perceived and real, small and large. Anyone who would resort to such acts in the face of a rejection or wait list result from a college application has set themselves up by not understanding the college admissions process. No school can be assumed a guaranteed admit anymore. Every student/parent needs a decent sized list of schools that they not only would settle with, but that they could see themselves being happy at. In the end, the vast majority of students are happy with their school no matter where they go and no matter whether or not it was their top choice.</p>
<p>Take a deep breath, grieve for a day or two and then get on with it. These moves are losing battles that prolong the misery and get in the way of of closure.</p>
<p>So. Not entirely sure what is going on right now but if our portal still says “no determination has been made”, does that mean we basically have no chance anymore? </p>
<p>Is Cal Poly the only CSU where the application is not touched by a human? Is the information the student inputs on CSU mentor/application ever verified (beyond transcripts), i.e., ECs, job/hours worked connected to your major, community service, etc.? </p>
<p>@idonteatsushi I really don’t want to say this, but I think so. I think they are done with the admissions. The ones they are probably still crunching numbers in for might be wait listed. A lot of acceptances were sent out from December - February… now I think its legit to say CP is done 
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<p>Did anyone know of a child developmental applicant who was accepted?</p>
<p>My D’s school career counselor called the admissions office Friday and they claimed more acceptances were being processed over the next couple of weeks. Can’t think of a reason why they would say that if it was not true. </p>
<p>@eyemgh - I would completely agree with the “move on” part, but the fact that the whole process is so complicated and confusing is what bothers me. For me a closure is all that people that have paid an application fee deserve as “customers”. The longer this lingers on, the worse the perception of the administration gets. Once the kids (and parents) are assured that the selection is not as random as it looks on this thread, things will be a lot less acrimonious.</p>
<p>Decide and decide quick. Decision is as good as it gets at the time the decision is made. I am sure there will be a lot of smart kids that will be denied a spot at SLO, who in the future would be the stars. Just like the kids can expect to be in the Ivies or the foremost institutes, even the Colleges aspire to get the next drop out who ends up being a Multi-Billionionaire. The latter is the most important from a College’s perspective because they stand to gain from the donations (<a href=“List of colleges and universities in the United States by endowment - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_the_United_States_by_endowment</a>). Education has become a business, it is no longer the impartial nurturing enterprise it used to be. </p>
<p>The best facade that can be created is the “algorithm”, there is no way on earth that all the applications can be given a humane consideration when a college receives 50,000 applications. It will be stupidity to think that UCLA (Just using UCLA as an example here) AOs have read all the 105,000 applications they have received! Clear demarcation of admissions criteria can help reduce this clutter and assist the AO in the future take a more holistic approach.</p>
<p>It is perfectly OK to summarize the algorithm and succinctly state in the Freshman profile as follows:</p>
<p>1) Test scores (Cut-off by major) below X gives you a Y% chance
2) GPA below A gives you a B% chance
3) Expected Family Contribution <$K gives you a L% chance
4) S% of incoming students will be OOS because the University benefits from the extra tuition</p>
<p>Don’t you think this will dissuade or provide a lower inflow? This enables the AO to take a more holistic approach on applicants that need to use the excellent facility at SLO? (Look at the LACs - given the very high cost of attendance, not a lot of people think about them and hence their applicant pool is smaller and get a much more holistic appraisal).</p>
<p>I am sure this will reduce the inflow thus impacting the “Application Fee” revenue, but at least the applicants will be happier with the decision that they are meted out, since the decision reflects the actual potential of the kids.</p>
<p>Think different - SLO and lead the way for other public institutions. </p>
<p>$2,000,000 in application fees collected by SLO for Fall 2014 - wow!</p>
<p>@gotoslo I honestly don’t know why most denials are not out yet. It would certainly be a more gentle way to let the majority who will not get in know. However, I think possibly a lot of rejections have gone out but as others have pointed out most won’t post here. I have also heard that quite a few admissions have to be withdrawn due to senioritis and C- or worse on their transcripts, again this might be the reason for a large wait list but with so many applications they most be able to week out thousands.</p>
<p>@keenone I have heard differing stories about this. I believe the applications are looked at electronically. Maybe not all, which is why I would suggest anyone with top scores who is denied double check with an admissions counselor that their application was scored properly. </p>
<p>Ok - here’s a draft of tomorrow’s request</p>
<p>The following is a request for information from the California Polytechnic State University at San Luis Obispo (CalPolySLO). Per the parameters of the California Public Records Act (CPRA, Gov. Code section 6250 et seq.), this request is focused and specific and does not require CalPolySLO to create documents that do not exist. Although the CPRA specifically does not require that I have standing, I am a student applying for fall 2014 admittance, and therefore, I do have standing.</p>
<p>Please provide documents, formulas, algorithms, scoring models or the equivalent that are used to rank high school student applicants for admission to CalPolySLO. This request specifically seeks information on the translation of GPA, standardized test scores, AP/IB/honors classes, high school performance, parental education, presence of a parent/relative working for CalPolySLO, courses taken, gender, race, ethnicity, and any other factors that are considered or turned into numeric scores. This request is not limited to the examples aforementioned and specifically requests any and all factors used by CalPolySLO and requests sufficient detail to replicate any CalPolySLO scoring at a 100% accuracy level.</p>
<p>State law provides that any California State University (CSU) has an affirmative obligation to clarify CPRA requests and provide information. Consistent with the State law, CalPolySLO as a CSU shall interpret this request broadly and request clarification as needed.</p>
<p>I look forward to your prompt response.</p>
<p>Given that modern day society wants instant gratification and doesn’t want to be told no, I can see why so many of you a lamenting over the Cal Poly admission process. Even if all things were equal, approximately 45000 applicants would not be accepted. Let it go and move on. </p>
<p>What kind of timeframe to they have to respond to your request @ TenFromLA? </p>
<p>@czs1994 no rejections here, still undetermined. if they did come out, we would get posts. i know i would for sure…</p>
<p>if they said another week and a half, i’d trust em. they offficially have till april 1st so yeah</p>
<p>Timeframe of public records requests are typically 30 days but they can ask for more. This likely won’t resolve for 2014 admissions, and they’ll change the system for 2015 if they are forced to disclose. Someone else will have to ask in Oct or Nov of this year again for 2015 fall admits.</p>
<p>BTW - I’m not arguing that anything is hinky, I’m just looking for transparency.</p>
<p>@TenFromLA
<a href=“http://www.act.org/epc/ppt/EPC%202013%20F1.2%20Maraviglia%20Amos.pdf”>http://www.act.org/epc/ppt/EPC%202013%20F1.2%20Maraviglia%20Amos.pdf</a></p>
<p>Detailed explanation of slo admission^^^</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>This is a more detailed and transparent view of admissions than you’ll get from ANY other school. You’ll get no more insight than what’s provided above because it spells EVERYTHING out.</p>
<p>Good job, tenfromla! I hope your request works!</p>
<p>I looked at the presentation. It is far from complete. It appears that it was a resume puffer for the Admissions department deans that submitted it. It’s likely written by Peoplesoft as part of their ERP deployment.</p>
<p>The +700 for faculty/staff children is a huge spiff. It’s equal to having served in the armed forces. You can credit the profs union with good work on that inbreeding credit for their own kids. </p>
<p>There’s +700 for low performing schools.</p>
<p>There’s +600 for both parents having no college.</p>
<p>There’s +500 for being from SLO</p>
<p>And there’s probably another 100 adders and deducts that we can’t see based on their few examples by major. There’s a bunch of department specific issues, like the net 700 point loss (lack of the +200 and the 500 deduct) for not taking speech. That’s really ugly.</p>
<p>Based on what I’m seeing, everyone who is denied should ask for a full printout of their scores and a full printout of the accepted scores for their major just to try to shed more light on this process for future generations.</p>