<p>@obicc12-
The harsh fact of the matter is, it likely doesn’t. Wait for the results thread in a few days and look at all the Asian/White applicants who are rejected with a better application than yours in EVERY category (SAT, GPA, EC’s, etc.). Hopefully then you will understand. Enjoy the school.</p>
<p>i will, thnxsss :D</p>
<p>It’s a sad fact to accept but Nihility is 100% right. Most colleges are lenient towards certain races than others in order to promote diversity. If an Asian/Jewish applicant with your stats applied to Emory, they wouldn’t have stood a chance. But the good thing is you got accepted and you should take advantage of everything that the school has to offer. Congrats.</p>
<p>Congratulations, obicc12! Don’t let anyone bring you down and tell you that you only got in because of XXXXXXXX. You got in because the Emory admission committee believes you deserve it. Have a great time at Emory!</p>
<p>thnx you everyone !!</p>
<p>obicc12 just pointing out the obvious, or maybe not so obvious to some only URM acceptances are out. Really does not seem fair</p>
<p>Congrats to all who got in, but this whole thing about URM’s getting earlier notifications was the thing that really turned me away from Emory. We all know that racial discrimination occurs at just about every college in America, and a minority can get in to a college with far lower stats than a White or Asian. But notifying them earlier?!?! Come on!!! I’m starting to feel like a second class citizen. If the college wants to profile based on the fact that the student was brought up in horrible conditions, no parents, in the ghetto, and somehow managed to get a 1300 on their SAT despite all odds, FINE!!! They probably deserve to get in over the privileged, upper-class lawyer’s/doctor’s/stock broker’s son who made a 1400. However, what if I told you that the first person that I mentioned was white and the second was black? The school will often take the second solely because they need to get their black numbers up for the year. Does that make sense? NO!!! Honestly, I think that it is giving credence to all of the stereotypes that state that URMs are unintelligent (unable to keep up with the majorities in schoolwork and must therefore be given a handicap in the admissions office), poor (lacking in necessary resources), and from bad backgrounds (brought up in bad school districts or in horrible living or societal conditions), when most people realize that these stereotypes are not true in many cases. Therefore, these policies set forth by the admissions office are racist to non-URMs, who are considered not as desirable to the college as the URMs, and the URMs alike, who are seen simply as a stereotype. “Diversity” is about having people from all different walks of life, with different ideas, viewpoints, upbringings, inputs, and talents. Skin color is certainly not a measure of someone’s diversity, but is instead a way of grouping people into stereotypes based on outward appearance. I hope you enjoyed my rant and that it incites a thoughtful discussion. Our country was founded on the idea that we could have opposing viewpoints and argue/debate them so that everyone becomes more educated and informed. Also, I in no way fault any minority for taking the advantages presented by colleges, and I would do the same if I were a URM. Getting into a college is often simply about taking every advantage possible, and I’ve hopefully gained the upper hand at some northern universities because of my status of being from an underrepresented southern state.</p>
<p>Goalstop:
Your post is flawed and only succeeds in promoting the stereotype that all URM’s are underqualified. Instead of complaining, how about you propose a solution to this grand problem?
Sounds to me like someones a tad but mad 
(BTW, the early acceptance was for people that were invited to a minority weekend in two weeks, there fore they needed to know earlier so they could make plans to attend.)</p>
<p>goalstop,</p>
<p>You are a very thoughtful and insightful young man. You spoke with an honesty that is not often expressed.</p>
<p>Good luck to you.</p>
<p>Skilleddd, I never once said that all URM’s are underqualified, though I did say that many are below the normal qualifications for admittance to a specific college. Colleges themselves promote this stereotype by admitting a large portion of otherwise underqualified URM’s. I currently have no desire to attend Emory, and am not mad but rather am disappointed with the system. As for a solution (after re-reading, I realized that I had put “final” in front of the word solution… negative connotations there, need to take that one out :S ), I think it’s relatively obvious: have entirely race-blind admissions. Colleges have need-blind admissions, why not race-blind? The definition of racism is: a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one’s own race is superior and has the right to rule others. (Dictionary.com). Now, I’ll leave out the part about the right to rule others, because that has little to do with what we’re talking about here. But, by the definition, anyone being admitted solely because they are an underrepresented minority (assuming that they have fewer credentials than denied applicants of a different race) has gotten into the college because of racism: because the adcom believes that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement. There are many fully qualified URMs who are admitted, and I am simply not including them in this conversation because we needn’t worry about them. They got in on their merit alone, with absolutely no necessitated aid from their race. The problem is when racism comes in and hurts those who are not URMs. Also, I think that the conference for URMs is a bit wrong. If the conference had been for only whites, it would have probably made national news… Just saying.</p>
<p>I agree with you, I don’t like minority only events either, it creates a cleavage between minorities and the rest of the ethnicities at the college. If race-blind admissions were adopted, however, I feel like you run the risk of over representing one group of people and you lose some of the aspect of “different walks of life” that you preached about earlier. A race-blind admission policy runs the risk of creating universities with very similar populations (Affluent families, various resources at disposal etc) as scores and grades tend to correlate with a family’s financial stability </p>
<p>Its’ a great suggestion though!</p>
<p>Yes, and I agree that there is some correlation between scores + grades and a family’s stability/a kid’s upbringing, but why doesn’t the admissions document simply ask about the prospect’s upbringing and background as opposed to a race check-box that just puts the prospect in a group based on one slightly related criterion. It’s not that hard for the college to make the student write a simple, short essay about upbringing and use that instead of stereotyping based on race. And even if an adcom does decide that they want people of different races, I don’t think that they should place as much weight in the decision process on race as they currently do.</p>
<p>@goalstop-
Well said. I am impressed. You manage to state your opinion without becoming overly emotional, something I am often unable to do. It’s nice to see that others are cognizant of the candid racism expressed by adcoms who follow current admissions formulas. </p>
<p>I certainly agree that the current method of admissions at top schools reinforces racial divides between whites and URM’s.</p>
<p>This is a great discussion and I agree with goalstop. I also think that Emory should have notified everyone of their admission status earlier or at the same time. It is poor planning on their part that they have to segment a group of students for an special weekend for the URM. Either notify all people earlier or delay their special weekend.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I am fighting the uphill battle of being Asian. We have the opposite problem. At many schools Asians are compared to each other and are held to higher standards than many other applicants. Many counselors are recommending Asians not to mark their Asian box, so they are not discriminated against by schools with significant Asian populations with high test scores. Discrimination of a different kind.</p>
<p>On the positive side, I would say I am from a URS (Under represented state…just made that up) for the Southern schools. That might to be my advantage, but I am not invited to a special weekend. </p>
<p>This is not just an Emory issue as others have pointed out. It happens in the work place and in life outside of college. I think Emory made a mistake by making it so overt that they are giving special treatment to URMs by early notification and a special weekend. Emory should release all RD at the same time. This has created a lot of anxiety, confusion, and extreme disappointment from the other RD applicants.</p>
<p>Just to note, Emory is not the only school to admit URMs early for an invite-only weekend. I know that Cornell does it, too; my good friend got in a week ago and was invited to their “Diversity Weekend” because he’s 1/8 Native American. I’m sure a number of schools do this.</p>
<p>I totally agree that it is unfair to the rest of us, though. I want to get an overnight visit to Emory, too! Just because I’m white doesn’t mean that I wouldn’t enjoy that. Then again, ED kids aren’t invited to anything anyways :(</p>
<p>To Goalstop:</p>
<p>I could see that viewpoint, but I would like diversity in terms of ethnicity as well in a school.</p>
<p>Vandy has a Urm weekend as well</p>
<p>Apparently we are getting our results tomorrow! I can’t wait.</p>
<p>Just checked my OPUS Account, had my Oxford rejection letter waiting for me
Most likely getting my Emory one tomorrow.</p>
<p>waitlisted at Oxford. OMG.</p>