<p>pixie, few months into CC and we sound like authorities on the ad process =p. But yeah, pixie’s hit the right spot.</p>
<p>It’s funny how this “Offician Indian Stats” thread doesn’t hold to its name, with only one stats post, and turned out to completely different from the other similarly named threads on other sub-topics.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, constructive discussion is taking place :)</p>
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<p>I agree. It’s quite ridiculous when people actually say that.</p>
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<p>The second line contradicts the first. Also, there are no first round or second round qualifiers; your statement is only valid at top schools, where they have enough applicants having 2300+ and hence have to look deeper into the essays and EC’s etc. Otherwise a 2300+ student is more or less a shoo-in at any college ranked more than #20. </p>
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<p>Quite true; still, the 2390 holds value, since it essentially is equal to 2400. Of course it won’t shoo him in and nor will it have the 2200 guy rejected immediately, but saying they’re equal is something entirely different</p>
<p>Consider this. Two applicants, one spot</p>
<p>1990 SAT, Gold in IphO, Silver ILO. </p>
<p>2400 SAT.</p>
<p>COMPARE. Doesn’t SAT seem highly inconsequential in determining the outcome of this?</p>
<p>^In this case yes SAT is quite irrelevant. But you’ve chosen extremes. Most students who score 2400 on SAT have top grades and EC’s; you don’t find a 2400 having a 40% GPA.</p>
<p>Also a “Gold in IphO, Silver ILO” student failing to touch 2000 is very very unlikely. Rarest of the rare cases.</p>
<p>" Gold in IphO, Silver ILO." actually got 800 800 750 800 800 800 :P</p>
<p>^yeah I know. But she got the Gold after she was accepted to MIT. </p>
<p>But I have come across a few posters here on CC who do have a 2400 but nothing other than that. Though 2400 in itself is an accomplishment, I’m not sure if it really stacks up well. I’m not sure if it can compensate for an intrinsically weak profile.</p>
<p>In fact, I have a senior who had 2400, but nothing “special” or whatever. He got rejected from every place he applied to. It’s a different thing that he applied to only HYP and Amherst. =P</p>
<p>HYPSM etc HATE people who get 2400. Check the chance threads out to understand what I mean lol</p>
<p>Hmm pixie is right to an extent.
From what the UPenn lady told us at the seminar, all apps go through a preliminary review wherein 5-6 people read (usually grad students and seniors) and review your app thoroughly and give a kind of rating. If the majority says REJECT, then its not even looked at by the admission officers.
It’s not like they don’t consider people who get 1800s. People with 1850 etc HAVE gotten into a HYP. They look at the app holistically. </p>
<p>And SATs are important to an extent; say 20% of the admission decision is usually based on SATs alone since they kind of help place everything in perspective…</p>
<p>20% because well most universities rate Standardized Testing Scores as either Very Important or Important.</p>
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<p>WOW. VERY insightful. Had no idea.</p>
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<p>Okay, no, that’s not true. It’s nice if one does achieve that score, but it doesn’t guarantee acceptance into a top 30 school at all. </p>
<p>High scores can never hurt you.</p>
<p>^ High scores always help. High SAT scores with reasonably high GPA (> 3.9) most certainly will get admission into top 30. It would be highly unusual not to get in with that kind of numbers.</p>
<p>^ Unless you’re a full-aid international applicant.</p>
<p>^or a convicted terrorist/or bad essays/no EC’s…:D</p>
<p>Obviously if the high scores are accompanied by a high GPA with rigorus courses and reasonably good EC’s which show your participation (instead of just list of Clubs you joined but didn’t attend), you definitely are into a few top 30’s. That goes without saying. Itsmylife, that would work even for an int’l applicant asking for full aid.
I was only talking about the Ivies and other highly selective schools since those are the schools that are top priority for most applicants on this forum.</p>
<p>I guess this whole discussion is pretty pointless; we never can know how exactly the admission process works. It’s best to apply and let it be. Best of luck anyway.</p>
<p>Yeah that’s very true, saxena!</p>
<p>Seconded. But it’s fun to talk about pointless stuff which will not matter or affect us.</p>
<p>Haha that’s there :P</p>
<p>On a different note, Cornell is awesome. :)</p>