****OFFICIAL UNIVERSITY OF PENNSYLVANIA CLASS OF 2019 ED RESULTS THREAD****

[cstbzksfmgv]

<p>Seeing as acceptances have started pouring in for QB Finalists, it's fitting to begin this thread now. Good luck to all those who are still waiting for their decisions.</p>

<p>Copy this format:</p>

<p>Pick one:</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted - CAS
Decision: Accepted - SEAS
Decision: Accepted - Wharton
Decision: Accepted - Nursing
Decision: Deferred - CAS
Decision: Deferred - SEAS
Decision: Deferred - Wharton
Decision: Deferred - Nursing
Decision: Rejected - CAS
Decision: Rejected - SEAS
Decision: Rejected - Wharton
Decision: Rejected - Nursing</p>

<p>Objective:</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown):
ACT (breakdown):
SAT II:
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable):
AP (place score in parenthesis):
IB (place score in parenthesis):
Senior Year Course Load:
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):
Job/Work Experience:
Volunteer/Community service:
Summer Activities:
Essays:
Teacher Recommendation:
Counselor Rec:
Additional Rec:
Interview:
Other</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?:
Intended Major:
State (if domestic applicant):
Country (if international applicant):
School Type:
Ethnicity:
Gender:
Income Bracket:
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.):</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths:
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself:
Weaknesses:
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected:
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected:
The most unique thing in your application:</p>

<p>Good luck to all who are reading this!</p>

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[Ermar101]

<p>Decision: Accepted - Wharton, Questbridge Match</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): 1920 (June 2014) 700 R, 660 M, 560 W
ACT (breakdown): 33 (Oct 2014) 36 R, 34 E, 29 M, 32 S
SAT II: 700 US History, 640 Math II, 640 Lit
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.985 UW, 6.785 W
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 1%, #7 (unofficially)
AP (place score in parenthesis): Gov (4), Lit (3), French (3), Human Geo (5), Macro (IP - in progress), Euro (IP), Calc AB (IP)
IB (place score in parenthesis): Mathematics SL (5), History of the Americas (IP), Film (IP), Chemistry (IP), English (IP), French (IP), TOK
Senior Year Course Load:
IB Contemporary History
IB Chemistry
IB TOK (Theory of Knowledge)
IB Film Studies
IB English
IB French
AP European History
AP Calculus AB
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): N/A - AP Scholar with Honor, Silver Knight Nominee, Questbridge Finalist, Honor Roll</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Class of 2015 Board (Treasurer), French Honor Society (President), DECA (Vice President), Environmental Club (Treasurer), SHAPE, Students helping achieve philanthropic excellence (Secretary), IB Advisory Board, NHS, Mu Alpha Theta, Phi Beta Chi
Job/Work Experience: Crew Trainer - McDonald’s ~ 30 hours a week since beginning of junior year, help out my family, help train new hires, understand all procedures in Mcdonalds, etc. Working a part time job and taking my rigorous classes is extremely tiring.
Volunteer/Community service: Rick Scott Campaign for Reelection (100 Hours, I’m a liberal Democrat), SHAPE (50 Hours), Environmental Club (recycling)
Summer Activities: Dual Enrollment at MDC
Essays: Common APP - about working at Mcdonalds and great environment 9.5/10 (a lot of grammar mistakes)
Penn Supplement - Penn Experience during Peep and love for economy 9/10
Teacher Recommendation: IB English - 8.5/10 Probably Amazing one of the nicest ladies ever, writes great recommendations
AP Euro/Class Sponsor - 10/10, talked about being like a second son he an awesome guy.
Counselor Rec: Great 9/10, Love her one of the few kids she actually knows
Additional Rec: N/A asked one of my managers but she never got around to it
Interview: 4/10 - Guy was a complete douchebag, I hate his guts, he said all my questions were relative, said everything I wanted about Penn was available at other schools.</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes, Questbridge Match = Full Scholarship, No Loans
Intended Major: Business Economics and Public Policy
State (if domestic applicant): FL
School Type: Public - 4200 Kids, 1000 Seniors
Ethnicity: Hispanic
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: <35000
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): URM, First Generation College (according to Penn despite Mom going to university in Colombia), Questbridge, PEEP Visit</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths: The Penn Early Exploration Program got to write stuff unique about Penn, sat in on a class, met people from the admissions committee etc. Great Essays, Lot of Leadership positions, Pretty Solid APP
Weaknesses: Test Scores!!!
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: I love Penn it was my first choice on Questbridge, I feel like my voice could be felt through my essay, PEEP program was a killer plus.
The most unique thing in your application: My job at McDonalds plus active role in School plus PEEP.</p>

[qwefssa]

<p>I’ve been stalking on CC for quite a while, now it’s time for me to give back! ;)</p>

<p>Decision: Accepted Questbridge Match- Wharton</p>

<p>Objective:</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown):2130 (first sitting) 720cr, 610w :(( , 800m, essay 10
ACT (breakdown): N/A
SAT II: 770 Math II, 700 USH
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0):3.94
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): top 10%
AP (place score in parenthesis): USH (4) Calc BC (5) Micro and Macro (4) Eur (2)
IB (place score in parenthesis): N/A
Senior Year Course Load:
AP Chem
AP Physics I
H Stat
H English
H World History
Health
PE
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): AP Scholar w/ Honor, Questbridge finalist, National Merit Commended</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): DECA (VP) JV Basketball (Co-Captain and I make advertisements for games), NHS (president), Ping Pong Club (Founder, President)
Job/Work Experience: mow lawns, advertising internship
Volunteer/Community service: Volunteer at a daycare center
Summer Activities: internship at dad’s friend’s adviterising company
Essays:
Common App- About moving from the Honduras when I was 11 (made my teachers cry)
Penn supplement- How I wanted to persue marketing and advertising.
Teacher Recommendation:
From English teacher (very good, I know her personally)
From DECA sponser/Econ teacher (AMAZING, she was one of the first people I met when I came to the US)
Counselor Rec: Very good, parents are good friends.
Additional Rec: N/A
Interview: very good, connected with my interviewer, lasted 1.5 hours
Other</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: YES/Questbridge Match
Intended Major: marketing concentration
State (if domestic applicant): Texas
Country (if international applicant): USA
School Type: public, mix of rich and poor kids
Ethnicity: Hispanic
Gender: M
Income Bracket:<25000
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): URM, first generation, low income, story, etc.</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths: essays, hooks, leadership
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: my story
Weaknesses: SAT writing score
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: my hooks
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: WHO CARES
The most unique thing in your application: my story </p>

<p>I’m ESTATIC! I was really worried about my application after seeing people with my higher qualifications, but this goes to show you that a lower applicant still has a chance. See you all at Penn next fall!</p>

[Amabel21]

<p>Decision: Accepted - CAS, Questbridge Match</p>

<p>Objective:</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): 1690
ACT (breakdown): 27 Composite, 27 R, 29 E, 27 M, 25 S, 10 W (Retook it three times -_-)
SAT II: 720 Spanish
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.79. 4.37 (out of 4.5)
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 6
Senior Year Course Load: AP Calculus, AP English Lit, AP Government/Econ, AP Psychology, Leadership, Physics, AVID 4
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Questbridge College Prep Scholar, Questbridge College Match Scholar, Dartmouth Bound Program, Youth Leadership Program</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): ASB (Historian), Student Government (Jr. Class President, Sophomore Class VP, Freshmen Class Business Manager), Mock Trial (Prosecution Attorney), We the People, California Scholarship Federation
Job/Work Experience: Field Laborer, Babysitter and Tutor, Sold candy (My mother is very sickly so whatever I make goes to paying for her medical bills, rent, utility bills, etc.)
Volunteer/Community service: Volunteer at a hospital as a Human Resources Clerk and Microbiology Lab Assistant
Summer Activities: Working for 40+ hours a week, volunteering on my days off
Essays:
Common App: About my life growing up and how I started working with my mother when I was six. Mostly about how I responded to poverty in my life and how I wrote my “master plan to take over the universe” which I still keep with me today (seven years after I wrote it as a reminder of my efforts). Made my teachers cry so that’s a good sign.
Penn Supplement: About my passion for neuroscience and my dream to study at Penn with a major in the Biological Basis of Behavior
Teacher Recommendation:
AVID teacher - She’s been my teacher for three years and understands my passion for service learning and my involvement in extracurriculars
English teacher - teaches the hardest English class in my school. I was at the top of his class and he considered me to be one of the most “divergent” thinkers he’s ever had
Counselor Rec: Tbh I think he hates me but he submitted all the basics so that’s good
Additional Rec:N/A
Interview: Amazing!!! We really connected. It was only about 45 mins long but we discussed so much. I even showed her the plan I wrote about in my essay and she got teary eyed when I told her about my life story. I still talk to her if I have any questions about Penn.
Other</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes, Questbridge Scholarship
Intended Major: Biological Basis of Behavior
State (if domestic applicant): California
Country (if international applicant): USA
School Type: public, mostly low income hispanics, doesn’t offer many AP classes
Ethnicity: Hispanic
Gender: Female
Income Bracket: 13000 or less (my mother has random months of unemployment as a field worker)
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): URM, first generation, low income, etc</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths: Personal Statements and writing ability, Teacher and Interviewer recs
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: my story and passion for education and being self taught in various aspects (water painting, playing the cello, etc) due to my determination
Weaknesses: ACT and SAT scores.
Why you think you were accepted: Memorable, well written essays (I literally made 7 drafts of each)
Where else were you accepted:Unknown. I applied to 8 other schools but UPenn was my number one so through Questbridge I’m not allowed to know if any of the other schools I ranked below it also accepted me but I honestly couldn’t care less because UPenn is life.
The most unique thing in your application: My UPenn essay. I wrote about the how the A to Z Encyclopedia of Serial Killers triggered my love for neuroscience. It’s my favorite essay.</p>

[frig11]

<p>bump</p>

[Jay1020]

<p>Writing this for my little bro who just got in. Hoping it helps someone else in the future:
Decision: Accepted - CAS</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): 2150
ACT (breakdown): 34 composite
SAT II: Chemistry: 770, U.S. History 690
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.86
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): N/A
AP (place score in parenthesis): I don’t remember them all
IB (place score in parenthesis):
Senior Year Course Load: Most difficult possible - 7 AP courses
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Nothing out of the ordinary, was a semifinalist, honor roll</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): (President) Literature Club, (President) Poetry Club, (Vice President) Chess Club, (Vice President) Debate team, (Center) Basketball
Job/Work Experience: Research assistant to Director of Neurology at local hospital
Volunteer/Community service:
Summer Activities: Harvard Summer School
Essays: Wrote about New York. Hope I didn’t use too much flowery language.
Teacher Recommendation: “Best rec ever written” - both my English teachers.
Counselor Rec: No doubt it was very good.
Additional Rec: None
Interview: Went very well. Interviewer said I knew more about UPenn than he did.
Other</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: I will but haven’t sent it in yet.
Intended Major: English
State (if domestic applicant): NY
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Public, Top 100 in state
Ethnicity: Did not disclose
Gender: Male
Income Bracket:
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None.</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths: Applied as English major and have very strong English scores and extras. 100 average for 4 years, president of three English related clubs, great relationship with my English teachers.
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: Made it very central to my major. Talked about favorite books.
Weaknesses: No hooks (urm etc).
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: ACT is on 75th percentile for UPenn. GPA is average for people normally accepted from my school. Recs definitely helped because I was told they were glowing. ED provides a strong boost for UPenn applicants (25% acceptance rate – highest in Ivy League).
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: None. Only applied UPenn ED.
The most unique thing in your application: Leadership positions across multiple clubs. Father was diagnosed with brain tumor and I wanted to research neurology so I got an internship working for the head of neurology at a hospital.</p>

[1600mPenn]

<p>Decision: Rejected - Wharton</p>

<p>Objective:
SAT I (breakdown M/CR/W/Essay): 2130 (670M/660CR/800W) 9 Essay
SAT I superscore (breakdown M/CR/W/Essay): Same
ACT (breakdown): 33 (34E/32M/33R/34S) 9 Essay
ACT superscore (breakdown): 33 (34E/32M/33R/34S) 10 Essay
SAT II (subject, score): Chemistry - 750, U.S. History - 740, Math II - 730
Unweighted/Weighted GPA: 3.92UW/4.44W
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 12/230
AP/IB (place score in parentheses): Human Geography (5), Chemistry (4), U.S. History (4)
Senior Year Course Load: AP Calculus BC, AP English, AP Spanish, Honors Physics, Civics, Business Communications, Economics
Number of other ED applicants in your school: 1 other for a total of 2
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel, etc.): Coca Cola Scholarship Semi-Finalist?
Common Awards (AP Scholar, honor roll, NM things, etc.): Everyone has these</p>

<p>Subjective:
Extracurriculars (name, grade levels, leadership, description): Class President (4 years), National Honor Society President (2 years), Captain of 3 Varsity Sports (12 seasons played), Boys’ State Delegate (1 year), Engineering Club (4 years), Volunteer Club (3 years), Founder of Chess Club (2 years).
Job/Work Experience: Soccer Referee (5 years), Pet Care Service Provider (3 years).
Volunteer/Community Service: Member of various volunteer clubs, probably around 100 hours of community service total
Summer Experience: Not much. Boys State last summer.
Teacher Recommendation #1: AP U.S. History teacher. I read it after he submitted it because I needed it for a scholarship, absolutely amazing. (10/10)
Teacher Recommendation #2: Spanish teacher. Didn’t read but I picked her because she likes me.
Counselor Rec: Above Average
Additional Info/Rec: Got a letter of rec from my soccer coach of 8 years who is also my referee assignor. I read this one, and it was really good. (7/10)
Interview: Interview went very well, interviewer said Penn would be lucky to have me. (He probably says that a lot)</p>

<p>Writing (Subject, 1-10 rating, details):
Why Penn: Very good, in my opinion. I wrote about how my leadership coincides with Wharton and how I hope to help the community of Philadelphia through various Penn programs. 9/10
Any dual-degree program essays: None
CommonApp Essay: Also pretty good, I think. I wrote about a time I experienced failure while running track and what I learned from it. 8</p>

<p>Other:
Date Submitted App: 10/16/14
U.S. State/Territory or Country: Connecticut
School Type: Public, only ever sent like 9 kids to Ivies
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
Income Bracket Range: About $180,000
Hooks (URM, first generation, recruited athelete, development): Nada</p>

<p>Reflection
Strengths: Leadership, Essays, Unweighted GPA
Weaknesses: Test Scores (especially SAT and Math II), Class Rank, not that many AP’s taken
Were else were you accepted/deferred/rejected: Nowhere yet
What would you have done differently?: I would have taken more AP’s and I would have tried harder to get and A+ rather than an A- Freshman and Sophomore year.
Why you think you were accepted/deferred/rejected: Not enough AP’s. I’m a white male from Connecticut with average test scores for Penn. </p>

[Bailkun]

<p>Decision: Deferred - Wharton</p>

<p>Objective:</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): 2290; 770 math, 760 reading, 760 writing
ACT (breakdown): never took
SAT II: 800 math, 710 literature (I’m so depressed by this score)
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.95
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): My school does not rank but I am in the top 3
AP (place score in parenthesis):
IB (place score in parenthesis): 6 in calculus, 6 in computer science
Senior Year Course Load: full IB
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): national merit commended, national honors society, a couple others nothing impressive</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):</p>

<p>Practicing Aikido for 11 years, 3 years at the original dojo in Japan, teacher for 2 years
Soccer for 10 years, played at premier level (highest in my state) for 3 years won multiple tournaments
Varsity Soccer for 3 years JV for 1 year
Knowledge Bowl (President) placed 3rd in state
Volunteer at Swedish Hospital on PCU floor for a year
Tutor at my school for struggling students for past year
Played Piano recreationally (no amazing awards) for 8 years, I just play for fun</p>

<p>Overall, around 400 hours of community service from teaching Aikido, tutoring, volunteering at the hospital, etc.</p>

<p>Job/Work Experience: Refereeing youth soccer games for a year
Volunteer/Community service: over 400 hours
Summer Activities: Microsoft high school camp
Essays: Common App: 8.5/10 UPenn supplement: 9/10
Teacher Recommendation: Did not see either, suspecting they are good probably 8/10
Counselor Rec: Very good 9/10
Additional Rec: Excellent, written by my aikido instructor for the past 7 years 10/10
Interview: Excellent, was told that I was a perfect match for Wharton 10/10
Other:
I am also doing a research project on cryptography under a mathematics professor who got his B.A. from UPenn and a PhD at University of Washington. It is very intensive and I mentioned it in my Wharton supplemental essay. I think both of my essays are somewhere between good and excellent. I talked about my transformation from when I first started Aikido when I was in 1st grade to how I teach now.</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: Nope
Intended Major: Finance
State (if domestic applicant): Washington
Country (if international applicant): United States Citizen!
School Type: Public
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: 400k+
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): none</p>

<p>Reflection: I am sad that I have not been accepted into my dream school. Although I was deferred, my chances of acceptance are now extremely slim. I guess I need to shift my focus to the other Ivies! Good luck everyone.</p>

<p>Strengths: Strong overall. Solid SAT and GPA, rigorous curriculum, and good ECs. I think my teaching experience in Aikido was unique.
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: I focused heavily on my teaching experience in Aikido and my research project in cryptography.
Weaknesses: My ethnicity, as well as the fact that this is Wharton. Sure my GPA could have been a 4.0 and my SAT a 2400 and chances are I would probably be accepted. I tried my best, and well I was deferred. I am honored that an institution as selective as Wharton saw me as worthy of a second consideration. I hope that they reconsider and I am accepted.
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: See Weaknesses.
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: I have not applied early anywhere else. I have submitted RD to UC Berkeley, UCLA, and the University of Washington already. I plan on applying to a number of other schools such as Brown, Harvard, and theWashington University in St. Louis to name a few.
The most unique thing in your application: I think my Aikido experience coupled with my Japanese international exposure was very unique.</p>

[Chris03]

<p>Decision: Deferred - Wharton</p>

<p>Objective:</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): Never Took
ACT (breakdown): C:30 E:30 M:29 R:34 S:26 Essay: 10
SAT II: Never Took
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.8
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): School doesn’t rank
AP (place score in parenthesis): US Gov. (5)
IB (place score in parenthesis):
Senior Year Course Load: AP Calc, AP Stats, AP Eng. Lit. Microbio, Economics at local college
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): None</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): (Co-Founder, President) Model UN, (State Officer- Reporter) FBLA, (Officer) NHS, Student Council, Working on Respecting Differences Club, Princeton Model Congress
Job/Work Experience: (Associate Trainer) Panera Bread - 25ish hours a week (during school) , worked at local farm market for a summer
Volunteer/Community service: Random hours through NHS, organized blood drive
Summer Activities: Took Econ class, worked 40+ hours
Essays: Common App: 8/10 - talked about working on farm, coming from a family of laborers
Supplement: 5/10 - felt bland, rushed it.
Teacher Recommendation: #1: 10/10 - came from my Econ. professor at UVM, she let me read it</p>

<h1>2: 7/10 - she had a ton of letters, was probably a bit bland</h1>

<p>Counselor Rec: Average
Additional Rec: N/a
Interview: Went really well, the guy said I was a great fit.
Other</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes
Intended Major: Business Economics & Public Policy
State (if domestic applicant): Vermont
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Public
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: Middle-low
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): First-Gen college student</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths: Extracurriculars, Recommendation letters, lots of leadership
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: I focused mainly on being first generation, about how I went through the whole college admissions process by myself.
Weaknesses: ACT, essays
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: Extremely competitive applicant pool (and applied to Wharton!) My ACT score is just below the 25% mark, that definitely didn’t help. Rushed through my Wharton app.
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: Accepted to Fordham University! Will be applying to UChicago, Occidental, Northeastern, American… and others.
The most unique thing in your application: I was lucky enough to get a letter of recommendation from my college professor. I took Principles of Microeconomics, as well as Macroeconomics at University of Vermont. I really got to know the professor (and did well in the class!) When I asked her about a letter of rec. she was ecstatic. She let me read and edit the essay as well. </p>

<p>Anyways, congrats to everyone that was accepted! I really wasn’t shocked to be deferred, and I’m excited to apply to other schools. </p>

[sorvis]

<p>Decision: Deferred SEAS </p>

<p>Objective:</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): 2200 - 700w, 750r, 750m
SAT II: 720 math 2, 740 Lit
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.8
AP (place score in parenthesis): APLang(5), APCalc AB (5)
Senior Year Course Load:</p>

<p>AP Latin
AP Calc BC
AP Lit
Economics (first semester)
Gender Studies (second semester)
Computer Science
Dance </p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):
Dance troupe (co-captain)
GSA (vice president)
Write for an online magazine
Class Rep (11th grade)
School musical (11th grade) </p>

<p>Job/Work Experience:</p>

<p>Summer job at farm stand </p>

<p>Volunteer/Community service:
Various community service activities </p>

<p>Summer Activities:
camp, traveling, work</p>

<p>Essays:
Why Upenn: wrote about NETS program at UPenn and how it fit perfectly with my interests
NETS supplement: wrote about anonymity</p>

<p>We are not allowed to read rec letters, but I have a good relationship with both my teachers. </p>

<p>Teacher Recommendation:
AP Calc teacher
AP Lang teacher </p>

<p>Counselor Rec: Didn’t read.
Additional Rec: Dance teacher
Interview: Was fairly nervous, but went really well. About 1 hour since interviewer had other things to do. </p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: No
Intended Major: Computer science
State (if domestic applicant): California </p>

<p>School Type: Private all girls
Ethnicity: white
Gender: female</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths: Fairly good testing, grades, specific essay, personality shone through in personal statement, visited
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: girl applying to engineering
Weaknesses: First semester junior grades
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: Because it is so competitive these decisions are practically arbitrary. Honestly this whole idea of rating each other and guessing if we will get in is silly. There is no way to properly represent yourself in a single application and one’s worth is not defined by these factors or their college acceptances.
The most unique thing in your application: I’m queen of the world. That’s pretty cool. </p>

[dhizzy]

<p>Decision: Rejected - CAS</p>

<p>Objective:
SAT I (breakdown): 2230… 680 CR, 750 M, 800 W (12 essay)
ACT (breakdown):
SAT II: 760 WH, 750 USH
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): My school doesn’t do UW so 3.82
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): top 10%
AP (place score in parenthesis): (5) World History (self studied), (5) US History, (5) Gov, (5) Chem
IB (place score in parenthesis):
Senior Year Course Load: Foreign Policy Honors, American Mind Honors, AP Bio, AP Calc AB, French 5 Honors, Psych and Lit, War and Lit.
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): AP Scholar with Honor, Highest Honor Roll</p>

<p>Subjective:
Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): History Competition Club (President and Founder), Historical Journal (President and Founder), Chess Club
Job/Work Experience: Dwight-Englewood School Summer Teacher’s Assistant, New-York Historical Society Museum and Library Student Historian Intern
Volunteer/Community service: Dwight Englewood School Summer Volunteer, Nature Center Volunteer
Summer Activities: Listed above
Essays: Very Strong
Teacher Recommendation: History Teacher - Great, English Teacher - Okay
Counselor Rec: Strong
Additional Rec: Employer - Strong
Interview: Went very well, guy also loved history</p>

<p>Other:
Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes
Intended Major: History/Political Science
State (if domestic applicant): NJ
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Public
Ethnicity: Russian-Jewish/Israeli
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: Middle Class
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): Not much other than my intense passion for studying history.</p>

<p>Reflection: Meh. Hope I get in elsewhere. </p>

<p>Strengths:
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: My love of history,
Weaknesses:
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: I had a rough 10th grade year because I was sick with digestive pains for most of the year. Missed a lot of school (17 days) because of doctors appointments and that dragged my GPA down from a 4.1. I also couldn’t do much outside of school because I would literally come home nauseous or with nasty cramping in my gut. My guidance counsellor explained that though.
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: Accepted to Penn State (safety)
The most unique thing in your application: My unique interest in studying cold war history and my emphasis on my russian-jewish cultural background.</p>

[noahmets]

<p>Decision: Accepted - CAS</p>

<p>Objective:</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): Superscore, M/CR/W/Total: 770/680/760/2210
ACT (breakdown): NA
SAT II: Math 1 740; Bio M 730
Unweighted/Weighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.97/4.30
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): NA, probably around 10th percentile
AP (place score in parenthesis): AP Euro, 5
IB (place score in parenthesis): NA
Senior Year Course Load: Science Research, IB History HL, IB Math HL, IB Spanish SL, IB Film HL, IB English HL, TOK
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): National Merit Commended Scholar, NHS, Spanish Honor Society Saint Michael’s Book Award, 2 Model UN Best Delegate awards, 1 Model Congress award</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Model UN 4 years (Secretary General), Varsity Tennis 4 years (Captain), other minor clubs w/ no leadership. Had great experience with AAU basketball team for first time.
Job/Work Experience: NA
Volunteer/Community service: Tutored at Cabrini Immigrant Services for 2 years
Summer Activities: Brown program junior year, BU summer entering 12th great
Essays: I worked very hard researching these, definitely helped my app
Teacher Recommendation: didn’t read, probably good
Counselor Rec: didn’t read, ditto
Additional Rec: NA
Interview: My interview went absolutely amazing. We talked about meteorological weather models, my pitching formula, and just had a great hour.
Other: NA</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: No
Intended Major: Undecided
State (if domestic applicant): NY
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Small Suburban Public
Ethnicity: Male
Gender: White
Income Bracket: 250,000+
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): legacy, which is the real reason I got in</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths: Non-reading SAT scores, ECs, Essays, Interview, Science Research/Baseball Research, legacy
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself:
Weaknesses: Weak SAT 2 scores, no traditional senior science, not a unique applicant
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: Legacy, Essays, Interview… no glaring weakness
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: None
The most unique thing in your application: Creating my own baseball formula to model pitching, better at predicting future ERA than any other publicly available pitching stat. Still wouldn’t have mattered w/o legacy</p>

[puzzled123]

<p>Decision: Deferred - Wharton</p>

<p>Objective:</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): 2310
ACT (breakdown): none
SAT II: 800 math, 780 chem
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): Top 5%
AP (place score in parenthesis): 5’s on all chem, bc, apush
IB (place score in parenthesis): none offered
Senior Year Course Load: ap physics c, ap cs, ap gov, ap microecon, ap spanish, ap stats, regular lit
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Eagle Scout, National Merit semi, Ap scholar</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):</p>

<p>Want to protect privacy. Lots of leadership- President of 3 clubs, state level leadership for boy scouts, top 3 nationally in one of my ec’s, Board of Directors at 2 nonprofits</p>

<p>Job/Work Experience: Internship at startup</p>

<p>Volunteer/Community service: 500+ volunteer hours </p>

<p>Summer Activities:
Essays: Capp 5/10, Why Wharton 10/10
Teacher Recommendation: 8.5/10 on both
Counselor Rec: 8/10
Additional Rec: none
Interview: 8/10</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes
Intended Major: business
State (if domestic applicant): CA
Country (if international applicant): USA
School Type: very large public
Ethnicity: asian
Gender: male
Income Bracket: 150kish
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): none</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths:
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: had a very strong Why Wharton essay. Solid EC’s.
Weaknesses: Mediocre numbers. Asian. Also feel like there is a big backlash against California this year from all top-tier schools. Plenty of 2400/36/4.0s with fantastic essays were straight rejected from HYPS/ivies. My common app essay could have been better.
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: see weaknesses
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: have applied uchic early. probs going to end up at berkeley lol.
The most unique thing in your application: top 3 nationally at that EC. Wharton didn’t get my update in time tho, so maybe RD will look better. </p>

<p>PM if you need any advice. </p>

[Brycifer]

<p>Decision: Deferred - Wharton</p>

<p>Objective:</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): N/A
ACT (breakdown): C: 31 E: 32 M: 31 R: 34 S: 26
SAT II: N/A
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.96
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 12/423
AP (place score in parenthesis): Computer Science (2), World History (3), Chemistry (3), English Language (4), U.S. History (4), Human Geography (5).
IB (place score in parenthesis): N/A
Senior Year Course Load: AP English, AP Physics, AP Psychology, AP Government, AP Calculus, Chemistry TA
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Basically, a bunch of debate awards at various levels.</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Debate (CX Captain), Extemporaneous Speaking, Mock Trial (Captain and Founder), Student Congress (Captain and Founder), Literary Criticism (Captain).
Job/Work Experience: Dairy Queen every summer for two years. >40 hours a week. Employee trainer in “chill” operations.
Volunteer/Community service: Generic >200 hours, plus Texas Association of Future Educators activities.
Summer Activities: Work.
Essays: Why Penn could have possibly been applied to other schools than Penn. 8/10?
Teacher Recommendation: Never saw, but I love those teachers dearly and I’m sure they’re great.
Counselor Rec: She doesn’t speak English well… so… not bagging on her, but the essay itself probably wasn’t great.
Additional Rec: Chemistry teacher who I TA for now. Presumably amazing.
Interview: My interviewer didn’t like Penn, said he mostly partied with the Frat guys - specifically said he didn’t take advantage of Wharton’s special internship opportunities (which was a big reason I applied).
Other: N/A</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?:
Intended Major: Business (Concentration in Public Policy)
State (if domestic applicant): TX
Country (if international applicant): N/A
School Type: Public
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: <$30,000
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): First generation college.</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths: My leadership and EC’s.
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: Politics was my number one focus.
Weaknesses: Everything else, I suppose.
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: Class rank. I came from a school with no advanced classes Freshman year so I didn’t know they existed. Then when ranks came out Sophomore year I was ranked 49 because I didn’t know what AP was. I guess I basically shot myself in the foot.
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: Accepted - UT Red McCombs (only other school I applied to)
The most unique thing in your application: I talked about how the political problems we’re experiencing today aren’t that foreign and America has actually solved them before, it just lacks leadership - and I wanted to be that leadership.</p>

[mmmmmmmmm]

<p>Decision: Accepted - Wharton</p>

<p>Objective:</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): 2280 (m/w/cr) 800/760/720
ACT (breakdown): didn’t take
SAT II: math II 800, USH 800
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.9
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 10
AP (place score in parenthesis): 9 APs 7 5s, 2 4s
IB (place score in parenthesis): nah
Senior Year Course Load: 7 APs
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.):
6th Place FBLA Nationals
1st Place FBLA State (2x)
3rd Place DECA Nationals
1st Place DECA State
National AP scholar
National Merit Semifinalist (230 PSAT)
Numerous Regional Essay and Debate Awards
Regional Science Fair 3rd Place Computer Science
2 time AIME qualifier</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis):
FBLA (treasurer) 4yrs
Debate Team (Co-Captain) 2 yrs
Economics Club (President) 2 yrs
other ecs without leadership
Job/Work Experience: none
Volunteer/Community service: 240 hours
Summer Activities: a small online business
Essays: wrote about business failure all decent nothing amazing
Teacher Recommendation: decent
Counselor Rec: decent
Additional Rec: decent
Interview: no
Other</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: No
Intended Major: finance concentration
State (if domestic applicant): TX
Country (if international applicant): USA
School Type: public
Ethnicity: Asian
Gender: XX
Income Bracket: 500k
Anti-Hooks (ORM, second generation college, etc.): wealthy asian BEST HOOK EVER</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths: scores to some extent, business awards, leadership (i think?)
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: no
Weaknesses: recs, essays
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: who knows
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: who knows
The most unique thing in your application: nothing</p>

[bluesfan10]

<p>Decision: Accepted - CAS</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): 2090
ACT (breakdown): 33 (3rd try) 31M 35E 32R 32S
SAT II: 660 US History, 680 Spanish, 690 Chemistry, 700 Math I
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.99
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): N/A
AP (place score in parenthesis): Chemistry (4) US Government (5)
IB (place score in parenthesis): N/A
Senior Year Course Load: AP Bio, AP Spanish, AP Calculus AB, other normal classes
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): Brown University Book Award</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): United Synagogue Youth (Exec VP of Region), Model UN (President), Jewish Community Representative, Thespian (Honor Thespian), Tennis (Varsity Captain)
Job/Work Experience: Synagogue Office Worker, Science Lab Data Analyst
Volunteer/Community service: Special Needs buddy
Summer Activities: Israel Summer Program, Jewish Camp
Essays: Common App: 9/10: I wrote about why I’m different and do things differently. I thought it was good, looked at it yesterday and thought it sucked, and then I guess it was okay!
Penn Supplement: 9/10: I wrote about my past as writing to the newspaper about politics when I was 12. Had a funny spin on it but passionate about Penn and why I want to go there.
Teacher Recommendation: Spanish teacher (7/10): He probably wrote me a great letter. He doesn’t speak native English, so I’m sure it was good. I guess it worked out well.
History teacher: (10/10): She loved me. I always did well in her class and she was extremely proud of me for getting a 5 on AP Gov even though it wasn’t offered at my school. I’m sure it was glowing.
Counselor Rec: (8/10): I’ve only known her this year, but she was extremely supportive of me,
Additional Rec: (9/10): Synagogue youth advisor. He loves me and he is my mentor, so I expect it was great.
Interview: It went extremely well! It was last minute, but we were very similar. Being from St. Louis, we happened to be watching the Ferguson grand jury decision in the middle of the interview and it somehow made the interview more important. It went well.
Other</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: No
Intended Major: Political Science
State (if domestic applicant): Missouri
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Private non-religious
Ethnicity: White
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: High
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): smart? different?</p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths: Essays, GPAs, Course load compared to my schools
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself:
That I’m different, do things that other kids don’t
Weaknesses: Maybe ACT, definitely SAT and Subject Tests
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: Maybe because I live in St. Louis and there aren’t many applicants. Also idk I like to think I’m intelligent
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: No where
The most unique thing in your application: Not sure!</p>

<p>Honestly, I thought I would be deferred. I had no idea I would be accepted. I closed my eyes, heard the music, and BOOM, I was somehow in. So excited and still in shock. </p>

[lumpcharcoal]

<p>Decision: Accepted - SEAS</p>

<p>Objective:</p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): 790 M 800 R 740 W 12 Essay; took once
ACT (breakdown): 34E 34M 33R 35S 9 Essay; (took once, didn’t study, had no idea what math format was)
SAT II: Math II (800), Physics (800), Chemistry (800), Biology (790)
Unweighted GPA: 97.44/100
Rank: N/A
AP: Physics C Mechanics (5), Physics C E&M (5), Calculus BC (5), Physics B (5), Chemistry (5), Biology (5), Computer Science A (5), World History (5), US History (5), English Lang/Comp (5), Statistics (5), Macroeconomics (5), Microeconomics (5)
Senior Year Course Load: AP European History, AP English Lit/Comp, AP Environmental Science, AP Psychology, French 4 Enriched, Orchestra, Physical Education
ED Applicants: Only know of me and my twin brother
Major Awards: None
Common Awards: Bausch + Lomb, National AP Scholar, Commended Scholar :(, Chemistry Achievement Award, Tri-M Music Honor Society</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars: Science Olympiad (9-12, Treasurer), Math League (9-12), FBLA (10-12, Secretary), JV Tennis (9-12), Church (9-12, Instrumentalist for adults, youth group)
Work Experience: Summer Internship at University of Rochester’s Laboratory for Laser Energetics
Volunteer: MBC (9-10), FCWC (9, 10, 12), RGH (10), NHS Tutor, Not very many hours
Summer Activities: LLE
Essay: Common App - not very memorable, but (I think) well written; talked about getting waitlisted for LLE (unusual amount of competition this year)
Essay: Supplement - same as all the others, well written I think
Teacher Recommendation 1: Moderate relationship, did well in both classes (phys B, C), coach for Science Olympiad
Teacher Recommendation 2: Weaker relationship than (1), did well in both classes (APUSH, Econ)
Counselor Rec: Moderately large school, so weak relationship, but (I think) he knows I’m kind of smart; procedure at my school is to answer some questions online for the counselor to reference.
Additional Rec: LLE Advisor, should be very good.
*note on recs: I was shy and pretty awkward for most of high school, got a bit better junior year but still not great; don’t lose hope if you’re like me!
Interview: Fine
Other: Submitted scientific abstract of what I worked on at LLE</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid? Yes
Intended Major: Electrical Engineering
State: NY
School Type: Graduating class of 370-ish
Ethnicity: Chinese
Gender: Male
Income Bracket: I don’t even know; somewhere in 100k-200k range I think?
Hooks: None</p>

<p>Reflections:
Strengths: SAT (I, II)/AP Test Scores, GPA, Course rigor
Areas of Improvement: No Major Awards, very little leadership (didn’t know what it was until senior year), recommendations could be better, unmemorable essays
Why Accepted: Objective Stats, paid internship at University of Rochester
Where Else Accepted: Accepted Case Western Reserve University EA
Most Unique Thing: Not much, maybe number of AP’s? In my friend circle, I didn’t really take that many, but looking online I guess some others don’t take as much.</p>

<p>I haven’t started a single other essay for any other school so I guess I’m pretty happy.</p>

[moneto]

<p>Decision: Accepted - SEAS
Objective: </p>

<p>SAT I (breakdown): 2400 Superscore (2340 one sitting 790 reading, 800 math, 750 writing)
ACT (breakdown):
SAT II: 800 Math 2C, 800 Physics, 800 Bio, 780 Chem, 760 US History, 720 Literature
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): 2nd
AP (place score in parenthesis): Chem (5), Environmental Science (5), Stats (4). Self studied on the Environmental and Stats.
IB (place score in parenthesis):
Senior Year Course Load: All AP: Physics, BC, Literature, Art History, Biology
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): USNCO Semifinalist Honors, two state awards for Science League for Chemistry. </p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Robotics Club (9-12, captain), Chess Club (9-12), Debate (9-12), Science League team (9-12), Math Team (11-12), Swimming (9-12).
Job/Work Experience: Tutoring
Volunteer/Community service: Korean School TA (2 yrs), Science Museum Volunteer (2 yrs)
Summer Activities: BU RISE, summer school for US History, and some exchange student program for Koreans that was 10 days long (KAYAC).
Essays: Common App- 9 (wrote about my love of Calvin and Hobbes), Why Penn- 7 (nothing too special and different about this)
Teacher Recommendation 1: English Teacher- I think she wrote well of me
Teacher Recommendation 2: Physics Teacher- I think it was ok, not glowing. Can’t say for sure though
Counselor Rec: He really liked me so probably very well written.
Additional Rec: none
Interview: It was ok 6/10 nothing too out of the ordinary.
Other</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes
Intended Major: ChemE
State (if domestic applicant): NJ
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Public
Ethnicity: Korean
Gender: M
Income Bracket: $60,000
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): First Generation</p>

<p>Reflection
No complaints about my test scores and grades, but I do wish i stacked up a lot more on my EC’s. Other than that I think my application was all that I could have done with my ability. I tried my best, and that’s what counts I guess.</p>

<p>Strengths: Grades, standardized test scores, and my chem awards.
What you tried to focus on in your application - any hooks you tried to make for yourself: Nothing in particular- I guess my common app was pretty interesting, and I talked a lot about my passion for energy in my why Penn essay.
Weaknesses: EC’s were really weak, and my complete joke of a literature SAT II score.
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: My Chem awards were pretty good, as were my grades. I think my common app really said a lot about my personality though.
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: Deferred MIT
The most unique thing in your application:</p>

<p>Congrats to everyone in the class of 2019! I’ll see you guys there.
And for everyone else- keep trying your best! There is a great college out there for all of you.</p>

[Remi56783]

<p>Decision: Accepted - CAS</p>

<p>SAT I (CR/M/W): 1st sitting 2180/740/750/690, 2nd sitting 2220/700/760/760
SAT I Super scored: 2260
SAT II: MathII: 800 Bio-E 740
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 4.0
Rank (percentile if rank is unavailable): Not sure if counselor actually sent it but probably something like 3/70
AP (place score in parenthesis): Microeconomics (5), French (5), Calculus AB (5), Environmental Science (4)
IB (predicted): 40/42, 42/45
Senior Year Course Load: Full diploma candidate HL Math, HL Econ, HL english A lang and lit, HL Bio, SL History, SL French A Lang and lit
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel etc.): several honour roll awards, NHS, ap scholar, 4 students of the year awards</p>

<p>Subjective:</p>

<p>Extracurriculars (place leadership in parenthesis): Cross country, MUN, Chinese classes, Diving, NHS, Student council, Newsletter, yearbook,
Job/Work Experience:
Volunteer/Community service: Red cross,
Summer Activities: lots of travelling
Essays: Wrote about my experience moving to China in 9th grade and Penn essay was incredibly specific
Teacher Recommendation: definitely great both of them
Counselor Rec: probably pretty good
Additional Rec: None
Interview: Went very well.
Languages in order of fluency: French, English, Chinese, German</p>

<p>Applied for Financial Aid?: Yes
Intended Major: Economics
Country (if international applicant): Canada
School Type: Private, very competitive international school in Belgium
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Gender: Male
Income Bracket:
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): </p>

<p>Reflection</p>

<p>Strengths: Essays were really good,
Weaknesses: International student
Why you think you were accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected:
Where else were you accepted/waitlisted/deferred/rejected: haven’t heard from anywhere else and won’t be!
The most unique thing in your application: I’ve moved 9 in 7 different countries on 3 different continents.</p>

<p>I’m so excited!!! Congrats to everyone who got in!!! </p>