<p>Are these kids from unusual schools or areas? I think the kids I have heard of who are "well rounded" but seemingly indistinguishable from others and yet got in...are from places that maybe need encouragement to apply (not New York Mass. suburbs)<br>
I thnk Yale took the urms, the recruited out of the way place kids, the athletes and the ones they had to (big donor sort of stuff) and the off the wall spectacular kids that will get in anywhere really
I think the rest of the pool is going to be a lot of qualified kids and it will be a bit of a lottery. I think most legacies are actually not in the early admit group because, well, Yale knows they probably do want to come. I didn't see many legacies admitted early. any thoughts?</p>
<p>not really, they're spread out over the country (everywhere from norcal to cleveland to ny). I think overanalyzing Yale's admissions policies is misleading. the only common thread i can find is that all are very good writers - and the essay can probably swing an above-average app into an exceptional one.</p>
<p>Also, most schools tend to admit legacies early... because the legacy 'edge' is strongest when a student applies early. Remember: most legacies don't come onto collegeconfidential. That's what's biasing this entire analysis. CC kids tend to be passionate, hardworking, and many completely spaz about the application process in general. Also, remember that of 724 kids admitted early, only 27 are on CC (or at least in the Y2010 forum). That's not statistically useful info.</p>
<p>Surprisingly I'm not the only competition from Chardon...we have an amazing group of kids this year. One of my really good friends got a 2390 on the SAT, but she was too lazy to apply Early Action anywhere...plus she isn't applying to Yale. She's almost guaranteed either Harvard, MIT, Olin, and/or Stanford (amazing application, essays blew mine out of the water)... Btw everybody else, I heard from a pretty reliable source that Yale this year went w/ THE MOST talented kids (ie. Intel ppl, etc), geographic diversity, URMs, and the kids that they pretty much needed to accept. We all have a decent enough shot at Regular Decisions. Here's hoping that's true :)</p>
<p>yale did not go with the most talented kids because our school has some amazing kids they flat out rejected.</p>
<p>they accepted a ton of urms and southern people this year... and screwed new york</p>
<p>and the Bay Area</p>
<p>How do you know that the kids took are good writers?
I think they took the kids they want to court
I think the good applicant legacies get deferred because yale knows they want to come and they don't have to court them</p>
<p>that was good,
"that the kids took" hopefully yale can't figure out my real name</p>
<p>TKM256 I really think that is just something deferred people are saying to make themselves feel better. Since the percentage admitted EA is the same its likely that the perdent admitted RD is going to be the same (or smaller considering that both the EA and RD applicant pool were larger this year). I wish all of you who got deferred the best of luck but attempting to lessen my and other admits' accomplishments by declaring us all "types" is just insulting.</p>
<p>can you get into Yale with scores in the very low 700's...? if ur not urm, but unfortunately, asian from ca?</p>
<p>tkm, bob^3, wrath, et.al,</p>
<p>It may seem that Adm "left out" specific areas such as NY, Bay Area, or made other omissions/slights.
Have to remember that no one sees the entire applicant pool (EA, or RD)
except the Adm Offices.
It's easy to wonder from an individual (applicant/parent/GC), or regional view,
why did so & so not get in, vs. someone else?</p>
<p>As an alum interviewer for two Ivies, I can feel the same wrt to interviewees - why did a highly qualified and highly recommended student not get in?
Each of us only see a (tiny to small) subset of applicants,
while the Adm evaluates the entire set of applicants.</p>
<p>I agree with sew... yale is a very selective school and has the power to take the best of the best and whoever else they want. I know all of you are amazing with great stats, but I worked hard to get in too and so don't belittle the accomplishments of those who did succeed.</p>
<p>As we wait, two long months, we're trying to find some signposts along the way. I notice you didn't ever post your stats that I could find. Would you mind? It's encouraging most of the time to realize we're all pretty much qualified.</p>
<p>Whoa there. Definitely, definitely no belittling meant. I was just regurgitating something someone told me about the new Brenzel policy [I shall keep my sources private, so he/she will continue to live another 70-odd years].</p>
<p>I know everyone who gets into Yale totally deserves it. I beg mercy from anyone who was offended.</p>
<p>I don't post stats for a number of reasons, mainly because I think comparing them is an exercise in futility, what's more, my case is quite specific because in addition to the typical CC level scores and stats, I have an international EC that I won't go into now. Needless to say, I've garnered some recognition from it. Plus my school doesn't rank, offer APs, or give awards, so not much info can be gleaned from that. Basically, I succeeded in and out of the classroom... just like all of you. I guess I was just lucky.
Apologies accepted, I know you guys are just trying to make sense of a confusing EA round, but I didn't like the direction the conversation was going, most specifically comments like "yale did not go with the most talented kids because our school has some amazing kids they flat out rejected.
they accepted a ton of urms and southern people this year... and screwed new york" That's not true. 674 undergraduates at Yale are from New York. This is the second highest representation, behind California, which has 684. 33 early admits are from Manhattan ALONE. New York was not screwed over. I would hardly call having one of the highest representations at the school 'screwed over'.</p>
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<p>The fact that your friends got rejected means nothing. Yale's admit website has a facebook thing that lists all admits, and most people have added pictures. Sure every once in a while you'll find a URM, but the vast majority of EA acceptees are still white people from places like Cali and NY. </p>
<p>And to counter your anecdotal evidence about yale screwing NY, I personally know two (white) friends from neighboring Long Island towns that got in EA.</p>
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<p>Quoted for emphasis.</p>
<p>(Didn't post stats, it's useless. Not intel/urm/legacy/athlete/val)</p>
<p>I've noticed, while looking at the admit facebook, that an overwhelming amount of early admits have been recruited athletes, which makes a lot of sense, of course, since they had an almost sure shot and would be best served by apply early and getting in early. And Yale would accept them early because leaving recruited athletes waiting til reg. decision pool would just be dumb of them. (And I'm saying this with no offense to any athletes, can't figure out how to phrase it any differently..)</p>
<p>So anyhow, the point is, I think the percentage accepted who weren't recruits is actually a lot lower than that 17.7%; regular decision pool won't have [as many] recruits because they've already gotten in, so the statistic may be higher than published etc. etc. </p>
<p>At least that's my guess.. Good luck guys!</p>
<p>For many sports, there is an NCAA signing deadline of 11/1.
Recruited athletes in those sports apply in the Early round,
hence the (higher) % of recruits in the Early admits.</p>
<p>Also, doesn't Yale take most legacies early too?</p>
<p>And to counter your anecdotal evidence about yale screwing NY, I personally know two (white) friends from neighboring Long Island towns that got in EA.</p>
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<p>because our school has gotten in 3-4 every year and got in only 1...because no one from places like rockville centre and syosset got in. i mean people have recognized this across the island.</p>