<p>vbball - you are a kind person. Very welcoming. Minor correction though. Duke is in Durham, NC State is in Raleigh (and UNC is in Chapel Hill). These three schools form a triangle with the points being something like 15 miles apart.</p>
<p>Patriot - sure girls are on the mind of a lot of guys. However, there are certain well accepted values called politeness, decorum and decency that tend to (thankfully) keep us from saying every thought exactly the way it enters our head. This is both because we don’t want to offend others and because we don’t want people to know what idiots we all really are sometimes.</p>
<p>If thegenius is real (and I am still not convinced) then he should make some attempt at exercising something resembling these values. However, you make a good point about the girls. I will call up Hef and suggest he buy a university and embark on a whole new admissions criteria.</p>
<p>Whether you believe or not, I am not trying to make some fake things at all. I just talked with many of my friends on the west and east coast.
In NYC, I talked with a ibanker. He said On wall street WashU is like top 25th, whereas HYP, Wharton, Columbia (the interesting thing is that I met a Columbia senior who is still not finding a job, perhaps due to the recession), Dartmouth, and MIT are considered as the feeder schools. According to him, Northwestern is like 10th.</p>
<p>The thing is that my friends at Columbia told me every friends at Wash U are happy, which is a big plus. But, if I want to work on the east it is better to go to school on the east not elsewhere. In terms of quality of education, I think UC Berkeley and Columbia has no difference at all. Many of my friends recommended Wash U for Pre-Med, but I think majority of kids at Wash U are Pre-Med students.</p>
<p>BTW, anyone else turned down Ivy League schools?</p>
<p>LOL, he is going to be a medical engeneering ibanker that practices law, if I remember his other posts correctly, especially if he is also Gunn, as I suspect he is. Oh, and he is going to pull teeth too.</p>
<p>If you are very concerned about going to a school on the East Coast in order to get a job or for whatever other reason, then I suggest you look at all of you options and rank them according to what you are looking for, because you don’t seem to be very sure about where you want to go.
I have no idea what an iBanker would have to do with you as a Pre-Med major, or why that should matter to you, but I am absolutely certain that those who have any knowledge about the field of medicine (and those hiring for high positions in various companies), know the merits of Washington University (even though many others may not know much about the schools). I don’t think that you will have any problems finding a job with a degree from such a respectable school, but that’s just my opinion.</p>
<p>As for your question about Ivies, I turned down Brown for WashU, as WashU was my first choice all along, and after visiting Brown I didn’t get the same feeling that I would belong there like I did at WashU (it was a very nice school, just not for me). I felt the same way about Dartmouth, but that was the one school that I was rejected from (lucky for me I already had my acceptance to WashU, so I wasn’t bothered in the least).</p>
<p>There are MANY people who choose WashU over an Ivy League school (and Stanford, MIT, etc.). I personally chose it over Penn and know many others who did the same thing with Penn and/or Brown. Some of the scholarship recipients choose WashU over HYP, even. </p>
<p>Almost everyone at WashU will have chosen it over Northwestern, Hopkins, and the like. Keep in mind that while you may not hear of people selecting WashU over Columbia, the person who wants to go to Columbia is probably not the person who wants to go to WashU.</p>
<p>i’ll be honest: i was a recipient of one of the merit full scholarships this year and I chose stanford over washu. Of the people that I know who got the full scholarships who also got into HYPMS, 0 people chose WashU. From conversations I had during scholarship weekend, this is not unique: the % of ppl choosing WashU over HYPMS, even with the incentive of scholarship, has been historically low.</p>
<p>You’re right, omg, most people won’t choose WashU over those schools. It definitely does happen though: I know of a girl this year who is doing so over MIT, and I don’t think that she is a scholarship recipient. </p>
<p>For the most part, I don’t think any school really takes students away from HYPSM, except for maybe CalTech, Cooper Union, etc.</p>
<p>omg, that’s great since obviously the $200,000+ for Stanford was not a hardship for you or your family. For many students that full merit would have been the only way they could have afforded a top education. I know you aren’t saying otherwise, I am just pointing out that I know people that got full merit scholarships that have in fact turned down HYPS because they decided the $125,000+ gap between what it still would have cost them to go to HYPS vs. Wash U was not worth it. Have a great career at Stanford, it seems like a wonderful place. I know one of the mechanical engineering profs there and have visited a few times. Beautiful campus.</p>
<p>Enough guys!!! This is sheer stupidity! People who make their college decision based purely on prestige and “name brand” are always going to choose HYP…etc over WashU. Those who recognize the strength and value of the WashU education as well as the value of having a wonderful college experience, will seriously consider WashU and weigh the pros and cons of a scholarship to WashU versus the “bumper sticker” of HYP. You can talk until you are blue in the face and will never convince a “status seeker” that the name isn’t as important as they think! Be happy WashU students that the pure status seekers won’t attend, because that is part of what makes the kids at WashU so great to be around!</p>
<p>The person that started this thread has friends at Columbia that think that Wash U is in the “Middle East”. Since when did Wash U move to Egypt/Israel/etc? I guess you don’t have to be intelligent to go to Columbia anymore.</p>