On applying early

<p>Whoa, I in no way intended to imply that I thought I'd get into either of them. I'm just saying that, strictly statistically speaking, it's easier to get into Chicago, Georgetown, and UNC compared to Yale and Stanford. I certainly understand that they are all amazing schools.</p>

<p>But actually, screw that whole EA thing. Now that I think about it, even if I got into Chicago or MIT, I would still apply to my safeties for merit aid. So I wouldn't be saving anything by applying EA. Instead, I should focus on Stanford or Yale, where SCEA could give me an advantage (MIT wants its EA acceptance rate to reflect its RD rate, so it's probably harder to get in EA, and Chicago isn't even my first choice).</p>

<p>The problem at this point, though, is that Yale is my first choice but apparently Stanford prefers east coast applicants (think about it - Yale probably receives a TON of applications from Jersey while Stanford probably receives a TON from California. Wouldn't it make sense for it to be at least somewhat easier to get into Stanford, then, over Yale, from Jersey?). If that's true, I think I'd favor Stanford. If not, then obviously I'd go for Yale.</p>

<p>Also, I hear that it's easier to get into Yale as a science major now as it's typically known to be more focused on humanities and arts but is now looking to expand its science programs. If that is true, then I'm definitely applying to Yale early; if not, I'm back where I started.</p>

<p>Any more comments? Sorry if I sounded arrogant about the EA stuff before.</p>

<p>I don't think there exists a whole "East Coast" advantage at Stanford. I am on the East Coast (Maryland) and a bunch of my friends applied to Stanford SCEA and almost all of them (except one) got rejected. And they all had similar stats to yours. I mean,.... its Stanford. Lots of people from all over apply. And I don't think that applying to Yale as a science major will help all that much... but who knows. :-) Good luck!</p>

<p>GPA is really good....</p>

<p>i hav a question, if i wanna do ED...but my SAT 2s are in Nov....would the timing be OK?....</p>

<p>No problem paying $45K/yr but you want to save on applications?</p>

<p>With almost 5000 posts you should be aware that Yale makes it clear applying EA does not help you. IT DOESN'T! The fact that the admit rate is higher is simple: It's when "FOY" (friends of Yale) apply. Legacies, athletes, daughter's of Senators and the like. </p>

<p>At lesser schools EA does matter. Unless you have a 2350, are val of Exeter and have raised $5million for victims of Katrina between working 3 jobs, EA at Yale won't matter.</p>

<p>I don't agree with the statement "if you need aid, don't apply ED". If you don't get adequate aid from a school, you can always say "sorry! can't come here!" because you can get out of ED due to financial restraints. I've had 2 friends pull out of their ED that I know personally, one from UPenn and the other from Duke. I say that you should apply ED to Yale if it's truly your #1, and EA to Chicago and MIT.</p>

<p>Oyyyyyyy how did this thread get revived? Haha. Well, in case any of you are wondering - and I'm sure you're just DYING to know - I'm no longer even applying to Chicago, Georgetown, or UNC, so I'm applying to Yale SCEA. Hehe. I can't believe I ever even asked that question now!</p>

<p>MIT has a single action policy</p>

<p>No it doesn't. It has regular EA. The only schools in the nation with single-choice early action are Yale, Stanford, and Harvard.</p>

<p>oh really? ok thanks</p>

<p>Hm now to answer some questions.</p>

<p>sonneyao827 - November <em>should</em> be fine, but the worst that can happen is that your scores won't get there on time for whatever reason and you'll have to be considered in the RD pool. It won't be held against you.</p>

<p>bobby100 - I would have to disagree. Letting a school like Yale know that it's your first choice can mean a lot. Remember 4 years ago when Princeton admissions officers sneaked into Yale's admissions decisions to see if students were accepted to Yale or not? I bet if those students had applied to Princeton early and been deferred, Princeton would have been sure that it was their first choice anyway, so they wouldn't be afraid to admit them in the RD round. When I say I believe that applying early has an advantage, I'm not referring to the higher admissions rate. I'm talking about the totally natural mentality of "hm... this kid loves our school and wants to go here more than anyone else - and that's why s/he's applying here early" which, in at least some cases (which is enough to convince me!) may have an effect. Going back to figures, though, the RD acceptance rate of deferred applicants is still higher than that of normal RD applicants. I understand that these conclusions are disputable as they haven't been confirmed consistently. But that only means that they're open to interpretation, and that's how I choose to interpret it, so that's the context in which I explained the situation, as, after all, it is my own choice to come up with the reasons to apply early to Yale or MIT or any other school. Anyway, the fact is that Yale, despite being such a goddamn excellent school, still competes for students with Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, etc. EA may have less of an effect for schools like Yale, but any kind of effect is enough to convince me.</p>

<p>bobby100 - also, what's wrong with wanting to save some money? Just because my family will be spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on college for the next few years, what's wrong with wanting to save a few bucks here and there? It's not like my parents are going to write one fat check and send it off very easily. We'll need to take loans and pay them off for a few years - I don't know how many, since I have two other sisters already in college, and we're all considering grad school as well. In fact, signing off on a financial obligation should make us MORE money conscious, not less. Plus, there's always the question of smart consumerism. Why the hell should I waste money on applications when I don't need to? Ok, I don't come from an underprivileged family, but that doesn't mean we should be irresponsible with our money. Some of my friends are like that because their parents haven't instilled in them a sense of money's value, but, as the youngest of three children who wasn't until recently aware of my family's financial situation, I've always felt guilty about spending more money than necessary to the point where I would order the cheapest meals off the menu, because I've learned that pennies and dollars and tens of dollars all add up. I hate it when people throw away money just because they can or because they don't recognize the consequences of their actions. If I get into my first choice school early, there's no way in hell that I'm wasting $1000 on more applications. I'd rather save it up to pay for my loans when I get out of school. People with your lack of respect for money's value really **** me off.</p>

<p>A2Wolves6 - I have two problems with that. Well, first off, Yale doesn't even have ED so that isn't an issue for me. Secondly, sometimes colleges calculate expected family contributions differently, so they are able to offer less aid and force you to take loans. In those cases, you're screwed, because you really can't mess with their system of financial aid.</p>