<p>Yale</a> Student Says Man Who Attempted Sexual Assault Punished With 1-Day Suspension</p>
<p>I wonder why law enforcement was never brought in. One presumes they would have taken it a little more seriously.</p>
<p>This is just the tip of the iceberg. One can find dozens of more examples related to sexual assault issues at Yale:</p>
<p>[Yale</a> University under investigation for failing to stop sexual misconduct and harassment on campus | Mail Online](<a href=“Yale University under investigation for failing to stop sexual misconduct and harassment on campus | Daily Mail Online”>Yale University under investigation for failing to stop sexual misconduct and harassment on campus | Daily Mail Online)</p>
<p>[Yale</a> Officially Declares ‘Nonconsensual Sex’ Not That Big of a Deal](<a href=“http://jezebel.com/yale-officially-declares-nonconsensual-sex-not-that-b-988475927]Yale”>Yale Officially Declares 'Nonconsensual Sex' Not That Big of a Deal)</p>
<p>[Yale</a> Faces New Scrutiny For Rape Policy | TIME.com](<a href=“http://swampland.time.com/2013/08/05/as-students-prepare-to-return-yale-faces-new-scrutiny-for-rape-policy/]Yale”>Yale Faces New Scrutiny For Rape Policy | TIME.com)</p>
<p>In fairness, such issues occur at numerous other colleges besides Yale as well.</p>
<p>Are some schools less concerned about this sort of thing because casual sex has become commonplace and therefore (in their minds) nonconsensual sex is not much worse than “stealing a kiss”? What the heck?</p>
<p>This kind of thing isn’t an ‘educational’ issue - it’s a crime. Why wouldn’t the victim go to the police with a criminal complaint rather than to some educational administrators as is implied in the article? Administrators of many types of institutions/businesses seem to have as their main priority keeping the incident as low profile’ as possible - not protecting the victims or criminal justice.</p>
<p>Well, consider this, GladGradDad, the student probably knows very little about how Yale handles sexual assaults. (If she knew, chances are she wouldn’t have enrolled there in the first place!) So she trusts that reporting the incident to the campus police will handle the situation.</p>
<p>By the time she discovers otherwise, she’s already been dragged through the mud (including repeated questioning about why she didn’t just “run away” from her assailant!) . . . so, at this point, what’s the chance she wants to expose herself to even more humiliation by bringing in the police?</p>
<p>And I’m guessing that the school would by now have made every effort to convince her that involving the police would only “make things worse . . ."</p>
<p>This is appalling. And a good reminder to tell our daughters to go to the REAL police, not campus security, if anything like this happens to them–even if their college has told the students to do otherwise.</p>
<p>I’m not finding anything that gives further background to this story. I do see this, " but even with the involvement of an independent fact-finder, it is often difficult to ascertain the circumstances of a complaint beyond what the complainant and the respondent report," Salovey said."</p>
<p>Now, Yale has a history of complaints. But can someone find an article with more info about this one?</p>
<p>The woman alleges an attempted sexual assault in December, but didn’t report it to the university until February. As none of us were on the panel which heard the allegations, and which saw any evidence, it’s not possible to conclude what might have happened. She said, he said, and no physical evidence?</p>
<p>I suppose she could still go to the police. The police and prosecutors, however, should be still bound by the old laws of the presumption of innocence, the right to counsel, the right to face one’s accuser, and all that.</p>
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I know. She likely had faith that Yale would do the right thing. I’m not blaming her.</p>
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Sure but this is what the police and DA office does all the time - they’re professionals at it whose focus is criminal justice - as opposed to administrators.</p>
<p>There’s nothing special about it being ‘Yale’ or even a college. What if this happened at a place of business (which basically is all this college is)? A sexual harassment claim would typically go to the administrators/managers of that business for resolution but a sexual assault is a criminal matter for law enforcement to investigate.</p>
<p>There’s a lot of sentiment around these stories and I’d just suggest folks dig into what Title IX states. It does not exactly parallel what we know about the law. There is some protection for both parties. Title IX is pretty easy to read and there are several expansions of it that can be found.</p>
<p>I am not finding anything that links her with this or describes incidents, except this Huff report. ? Nor anything that gets behind the “amounts to” a one-day suspension statement.</p>
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The links I listed earlier described some additional incidents. Some quotes are below:</p>
<p>“The formal complaint was lodged by 16 Yale students and alumni early last month claiming that not enough was done to punish or stop students during certain episodes, such as when students held signs saying ‘We love Yale sluts’ and chanting ‘No means yes, yes means anal’ to their female counterparts.”</p>
<p>“In another incident, in September 2009, the so-called ‘pre-season scouting report’ was issued via email in which a group of male students circulated a list of 53 female students ranking them in order of how many beers they would have to have before they slept with them.”</p>
<p>“The word “rape” does not factor into Yale’s new report on how the university is handling sexual misconduct; instead, the act is described as “nonconsensual sex,” and it’s usually punishable by “written reprimand.” (Sometimes rapists have to spend some time thinking about respect!) According to the report, five of the six people Yale identified as nonconsensual sex-havers over the past six months either graduated without much stress or will be returning to campus in the fall.”</p>
<p>You can find more specific details about recent incidents in the report summaries published by Yale. The one for the first half of 2013 is at <a href=“http://provost.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/FINAL_Jul2013_Report_Sexual_Misconduct_Complaints_7-31-13.pdf[/url]”>http://provost.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/FINAL_Jul2013_Report_Sexual_Misconduct_Complaints_7-31-13.pdf</a></p>
<p>We don’t dispute the earlier complaints. </p>
<p>You think this is the one?
“A YC student reported that a male YC student made inappropriate comments of a sexual nature to her and another female YC student. In addition, the complainant reported that the male YC student physically and verbally intimidated her.
Update: The complainant filed a formal complaint with the UWC. The UWC found sufficient evidence to support the allegations. The respondent was given a one-semester suspension, was placed on probation for the remainder of his time at the University, and was restricted from contacting the complainant.”</p>
<p>Now, I understand Clery. And I’m not here to dismiss or diminish the problem. The only other mention I find of this young woman is in here: [Yale</a> Students Push For Tougher Sexual Assault Punishments](<a href=“HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost”>Yale Students Push For Tougher Sexual Assault Punishments | HuffPost College) From mid-August.</p>
<p>The article indicates -
It’s the “attempted to sexually assault” that should have been dealt with by law enforcement so they could investigate it and determine whether or not a law was broken and follow that up if it was. If that was my D you can bet I’d want the police to follow up on it - not just some administrator of a private business.</p>
<p>I don’t see any more details in the article other than that and of course don’t really know what’s meant in this case by “attempted to sexually assault”.</p>
<p>Call the police, not the campus rent-a-cops.</p>
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<p>Apparently there was enough evidence for he school to find that there was an attempted sexual assault. The discussion here is about why, then, the student was not punished more harshly.</p>
<p>If it’s the case lookingforward found in the Yale report, the committee found evidence to support the accusation “he physically and verbally intimidated her.” Whatever that means. If it’s the same case.</p>
<p>On the Princeton should pay taxes thread there was a mention that Princeton does not use town services and has their own sworn police force. If Yale does the same it might be that a crime committed on campus must be investigated by the campus police.</p>
<p>Yale has their own sworn police department</p>
<p>[Overview</a> of the Yale Police Department (YPD) | Public Safety](<a href=“http://publicsafety.yale.edu/overview-yale-police-department]Overview”>http://publicsafety.yale.edu/overview-yale-police-department)</p>
<p>Amesie, we can’t know if some version changed or why, but the school’s report (assuming we id’d the right one) says, inappropriate comments of a sexual nature to her and another female YC student. In addition, the complainant reported that the male YC student physically and verbally intimidated her.</p>
<p>I don’t automatically trust the Huff version, that’s why I was looking for more info.</p>